Board Thread:Shingeki no Kyojin Wiki/@comment-24930713-20150327022217/@comment-424719-20150427195812

So then we're agreed, we don't need tabs in the slightest then at this current moment. Good, I didn't think that was really a point of contention but it is nice to have it out of the way.

I'm "Appealing to tradition" Manuel given your history with these kinds of things. In the past, you have made the change we were in the middle of discussing and I think that is a wrong way to go about these sorts of things. We maintain the status quo until we have agreed that it should be changed, and needs to be changed. Therefore, I'm hoping things will stay the way they are until agreement is reached. Also, it's to demonstrate that no one had a problem with this format before and it was set down by someone who cared for the wiki and did more work then any of us combined. You can find Miskos discussing the style somewhat on my talk page, and you can go to Gunther's Page and see the style Miskos laid down.

In extracting the relevant facts you are bringing too much subjective detail into your summary. You may not find Kenny's discussion with is grandfather relevent to Eren's page, but someone else might. There is no harm in having a lot of detail, people are free to read what they like. Further, it may encourage them to pursue Kenny's Page, thus leading more people to read about AoT, which is a good thing.

However, the main argument remains that it is essential to the development of the character of Eren that he heard that story. The pages need to detail what the character knows, so you can put yourself in their shoes and understand their mindset. Saying "Erwin and Pixis talked about overthrowing the government and Pixis had doubts while Erwin was gambling. He then told a story about how his Dad had a theory that memory was manipulated" betrays so much of the rich information and interaction that took place between those two. Somewhere on the internet the conversation needs to be detaled and written down so it can be easily accessed. We are the place to do that. Every piece of dialogue between these two was of vast importance, and their reaction to each other even more so.

If people want to know every last bit of information about AoT and they strive to learn it, like me, then we should be welcoming to those people. Maybe I want to know exactly what Jean said to Sasha in chapter 53 (Random example, I don't even know if they talk there), I should go have to read the chapter? No, our role is to work beyond that and convey all the information about AoT. Just as we have that role, we have a duty to provide as much information on a characters page about that character. I don't want anyone to have to dig through chapter summaries just to find Erwin saying something they found cool.

Lastly, you say they can retreat to the chapter summaries but the most recent one, done by you, does not include all this detail. So people wishing to know more about Kenny's talk with his grandfather would have to go the chapter, at least under the current system of summarizing.