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NephilimGear wrote: Junior0124 wrote:

NephilimGear wrote: I wonder if only eldians can into Titans. I wonder if other races can and it is not just not taken into exposition yet.

I just want some form of peace, democracy or diplomacy to return to all the continents of their world. I think the one way to do this is to destroy the Titans or create a new lineage of Titans. Paradis has obviously hurt the people of Asian lineage thus it is still pretty unrealistic that Mikasa does not give a shit about it.

And, you could be right. Grisha has been manipulated too. In fact, Zeke's hate for his father is because his father was apparently abusive towards him with all these ideologies. I cannot say Zeke himself is not brainwashed by Marleyans. What happened to Zeke is documented by the movie "Swing Kids" which is about NAzi Youth and how easily they were brainwashed or even how kindness worked. When Zeke did not find kindness in his life with his family he found it with his Marleyan educators.

yes, I didn't know abourt new baby titan hehehe but yeah Eren is the first of his kind to be both founding Titan and Attack Titan. This means that maybe Titan are also evolving. Who knows maybe the person to inherit other Titan form may be Mikasa or someone from her maternal people. It would actually be cool if other races can become Titans. On another note, Eren should take the socio-political history of both Eldia and Marley into account before making any decisions. The fact is he should use his powers to heal the world and not make a new regime all over again.

Also, it was never verified what happened to Fay. I have a feeling she is alive.

It is interesting the new season of anime has started.

In the end of the show I hope Eren is able to find closure and that he actually realises, as he did already, that Titans were not his enemy. Rather it was human greed that drove Titans. If the Great Titan War did not happen and if he the King did not remove himself to Paradis this would not have happened.

I wouldn't like the show to be a Us vs Them thing because it would be too silly. I would actually like good Marleyans and also horrible Eldians who know what's up but actually support Marley like I don't know King Reiss himself is one of them. I mean the royal family is responsible for all the problems in Paradis. They are okay with normal humans dying out as long as they can control Titans and Titan shifters. Think about it. When Wall Maria was breached they could have stopped the horde of Titans in Shinganshina District but did not and ultimately caused fatalities. More so than Marleyans they themselves were also responsible. This is the sort of crap that greed can accomplish. And, Eren should recognise this.

He should also show compassion for people like Annie and Reiner who had been blackmailed and subjugated all their lives to do Marley's biddings. They were never given an identity beyond this. If Eren fails to show comapssion and even understanding of people in this chaotic world he is working as badly as Eldian and Marley governments :/ That would be bad.

Yes, Marley's quest for imperialism should stop but not by making former mistakes. This cycle of hatred and death should be finally culled because it has taken so many lives and deformed so many people into Titans that clearly it is wrong. If you think about it the concept of Titan itself is a curse. Only Titan shifters can be said to have powers  but regular Titans lose everything and become nothing but oversized zombies. And Eldian rulers did use this practice to make cheap labour and also make armies but LITERALLY stripping away the humanity of their own people. This is also something that can't be ignored. There are some complicated plot points in AOT which is good but I hope the mangaka fleshes them out nor else this series will definitely fall flat on its face. I seriously don't think anyone else but Ymir's people can turn into Titans but who knows maybe the serum will work on other races.

Everyone wants peace lol but there are always different levels to that - Marleyan peace may be different from Eldian peace. And sorry to say this but Titans will never truly be extinguished it's impossible. Like I said earlier, Titan shifters don't have to be consumed in order for their abilities to be absorbed; it'll always find its way to another Eldian after their death through the unseen paths connecting them. A new lineage of Titans sounds reasonable but the 13 year expiry date is a bit scary because as soon as you become a Titan shifter you only have 13 years to live. Imagine being a newborn Eldian baby and dying at 13 for no reason it's so sad as you can't choose your fate. With Mikasa, I don't think it's a case of whether she cares or not but actually whether she is aware of the genocide that wiped out her race. Her parents may never have told her about that.

But still man, Zeke was a disappointment like how could he do that. Ok yeah it was Grisha's fault but damn man, I don't think I'd sentence my dad to death just for forcefully trying to impose his ideologies on me. Even so there was no sense of loyalty with Zeke I mean no matter what that was his father and mother who got killed because of him. And he didn't even seem remorseful. I think Kruger says that Zeke got brainwashed by the Marleyans.

I doubt Titans are evolving they are just doing what they have always been capable of - Titans can absorb powers by consuming other Titans. It was just proved by Grisha that any Titan can absorb another's power and add it to their own. The Progenitor Titan was eaten by Attack Titan Grisha and so the Attack Titan now has the Founder Titans power - the coordinate. Mikasa is already badass she doesn't need a Titan form she's the female Levi. Yes Eren should do the righteous thing but you know how he is, hot headed and emotional he probably bares hatred towards the Marleyans. At the end of chapter 90, Eren says that their enemies are beyond the wall and only true freedom will be accomplished if they kill them. So yeah Erens gonna go in guns blazing with no room for small talk.

Yes it was, Grisha says in the manga that her body was found by a river after being severly bitten by dogs.

You made me think for a second, I never thought like that. It is true the King could have saved lives by using the coordinate to drive away the Titans, but remember the Reiss family are under the Kings ideology and so believe in a world ruled by Titans so you can see why they didn't interfere.

And yeah at first I bore nothing but hatred and anger at Reiner, Bertholdt and Annie. I couldn't understand why they would betray humanity like that but if you've read chapter 91 you'd understand. The Eldians that are in Marley have been brainwashed with false propaganda and I believe this is what happened to Zeke. They are brought up with false historical documents claiming that the Eldians in Paradis are spawns of the devil and need to be exterminated in order for the good Eldians who are in internment zones (basically ghettos like the underground district in Paradise) to be released from their poverty but it's obvious they are just being used to do their dirty work. It's so sickening to think that Eldians are killing themselves off. One half of the race against the other all because of the Marleyans.

Absolutely, Marley are becoming too greedy way beyond control and it needs to stop. No one is perfect in this world but it seems things may have to go to choosing the lesser evil in the end. Think back to how many Survey Corps members died even civilians and innocents. Not only Eren, everyone from Paradis won't forget this and will surely wage war against Marley it seems inevitable.

The Mid East Allied Forces may be troublesome in the future, the fact that they have developed weapons capable of taking down one of the 9 Titans in a single strike is frightening, they can't be trusted. This may really be what Hange said it was - Paradis vs the rest of the world. That would be an epic finale to the show but the world itself would be too damaged, what would the world look like in the end. We think the Founding Titan can't be destroyed but there might be a way. Maybe, something that we haven't thought of yet that is there. Even if the Titan shifting thing is born in a baby it still can be erased. After all there were once a time when humans were hust humans.

Yes, obviously, Paradis has to defend itself or rather some people of Paradis. But it shouldn't do what Marleyans are doing or what Eldians did so many years ago. Eren is hot tempered and emotional but he may eventually mature in the series as Ed Elric did in FMA.

I do believe Titans are evolving because from 9 now its 8. But yes the Royal family of Paradis are as bad as well Marleyan government now.

The Mid East Allied forces are against Marley and The Edlian Restorationists did ask them for help once. So, they have weapons to destroy Titans there is nothing wrong with that. They also need to protect themselves because Titans can kill so many and devour so many. They should be allies because it would be kinda silly to fight everyone and just gain supremacy for Paradis again. That would be a stupid ass neo imperialism and it would do no one any favours.

I think I understand Zeke. Yes, what he did was wrong. But he was abused by Grisha and Dina. What his parents did was wrong. That poor guy was like only 5 or 7 and they kept on hounding at him to be a double agent. Do you know how wrong that is? Yes, he should not have turned his parents in and made that happen but his parents also should not have used him as a pawn. In fact, Grisha did it again with Eren. Yes, it helped Eren but at what cost? He has the curse of Ymir now too and he would never be able to live out his life outside that unless he detroys the coordinate in himself. That is pretty sad.

I do want Eren and Paradis to be one with the rest of the world. Even if Marleyan peace and Eldian peace is different there can be negotiations and both sides can shoulder their own burdens and each other. Making one epic finale battle will be nice to watch but also pretty much ruin the hell out of the world. People should coexist. lack of coexistence is one of the reasons even the real world is in so much problem.

It would be great if the continents can live in harmony again and Eren and everyone gains peace. It would be actually awesome if Eren lives in Marley at the end of the series =) and tries to learn more about other countries and all that and works with Zeke. It would be nice. And actually great. greedy ass marley would never let peace exist. and if the mass genocide really happened(on marley), then they would never forgive....