Board Thread:Manga/@comment-27321453-20191208140701/@comment-1327106-20191213043448

Marco1995mega wrote::

I think that the relationship between the Volunteers and Yeagerists is pretty obvious. The latter were solely loyal to Eren, while treating the Volunteers and Zeke as business partners with a common goal. However, Yelena was the only one among them with knowledge of Zeke's true intentions, until she told Eren, who probably informed Floch (or Zeke told him  in Maley, and Eren then told he Yeagerists back on Paradis). After all, Floch and the Yeagerists want to see the 'birth of the new Eldian Empire', which would be impossible if all Eldians were sterilized. Their goals, therefore, are in clear conflict with Zeke's and Yelena's.

They most likely pretended to be working with the two of them, probably under orders by Eren to detain the Volunteers after he acquired the Founder's power. Thus, I don't think it can be said that Floch double-crossed them since he never was a true ally to begin with, nor did he shift from his original goal.

Yeah, you're right. What I meant was more that I thought Eren asked Floch to keep tabs on Yelena, but that was a scene we haven't seen yet. We still have not seen Eren's initial conversation with Yelena at all, and it seems odd (and intentional) that we haven't. But rereading what I wrote, it didn't come out that way.

CaptFredricks wrote: Interestingly enough, the term Mary Sue came from a 1973 Star Trek parody story by a fan who was critiquing unrealistic fan fiction characters (modern fan fiction itself actually arose from the Star Trek fandom). I found all of this fascinating because I myself am a huge Trek fan.

Yeah, fandom in general owes a lot to a bunch of crazy fans of OG Star Trek. :) Mary Sue wasn't the only fanfic term to come out of there.