Board Thread:Manga/@comment-27321453-20180708204808/@comment-24407809-20180709224405

Penguinluver1431 wrote: Freeman1378 wrote: Just some further thoughts on this chapter and who should have died in The Battle Of Liberio:

- I think that Eren's plan is to goad the world into throwing its entire military weight at Paradis so he can effectively end the conflict right now by destroying them with the wall titans thus causing the enemies of Paradis to surrender as there militaries will be devastated beyond repair and they will be scared into submission.

- Kiyomi seems to be a manipulative capitalist type who only desires the resources of Paradis which is somewhat surprising as I thought Isayama would treat her country like the Eagles in the LOTR in a daft blaze of nationalism. So even though the alliance itself was incredibly easy to see coming it's nice to see Isayama treat the situation with a sense of realism and it makes her undeniably more interesting than the one note goody two shoes that popped up a few chapters ago.

- Honestly I'm actually pleasantly surprised that I'm not alone on the Zeke hate train as I think he is a daft mix of Itachi (Naruto) and MIB/Ford (Westworld) as he is basically a beat for beat ripoff of the former (if again he is being genuine) mixed with the constant mystery boxes of the latter characters and unfortunately he doesn't have much dramatic weight to swing around in the story as either he has a woefully unearned "I was good along motivation!" which is frankly terrible (Not every character deserves redemption or to be a secretly good person something that Westworld and GOT wisely understood with the MIB and Joffery respectively) or he's going to be there to inject drama into a conflict that clearly needs some which is marginally better than the other option but still not great as it means that he still has no character outside of being a never ending mystery box.

- My final thoughts on the Battle Of Liberio is that I think that Sasha still should have died but in a more organic fashion during the battle and that Connie and Mikasa also should have croaked in this fight. My suggestion is Connie gets swapped with the no name who gets swatted by Porco, Sasha sacrifices herself to destroy Pieck's Panzer Unit/avenge Connie, and Gabi shoots Mikasa on the blimp this way the Battle truly had significant losses rather than just a no name given an important power and the highly manipulative death of Sasha. In regards to the idea that Pieck replace Sasha death in this conflict I don't think she's a big enough character to elicit a real response from the audience and I think it would be the Marley equivalent of a Mike or Nanaba dying where she has a character but also doesn't really factor into the plot past being a good soldier. Agree with Eren and Zeke, neutral on Kiyomi, but on the Battle of Liberio...nope. Nope. Nope. NOPE. Sasha should have lived, the only one who really should have died was Gabi, that's it. We've had enough of the "abandon all hope" vibe from the more recent arcs, the SC needs a complete victory for a change The battle of Liberio ended with Marley losing the War Hammer Titan, the Beast Titan, their navy, all of their military leaders except for Magath, the head of their government, a huge number of soldiers, and all of their Warrior Cadets, whereas the Survey Corps only lost 8 soldiers. That seems like a pretty complete victory for the Survey Corps to me. Granted, this attack was incredibly short-sighted and will only lead to the world rallying against Paradis, but the battle itself was a complete stomp in the SC's favor.