Board Thread:Manga/@comment-33873869-20200317050453/@comment-33873869-20200317205642

Razzylada wrote: Drivebladesman wrote:

So, can you explain to me how one can be born as a subject of Ymir? Therre's only one way to be born as a Subject of Ymir : at least one of the parent must be a SoY. This is why many Eldians rulers practiced eugenics : they just had to impregnante women from other countries, and they give birth to SoY.

There is a distinction to be done between SoY and Eldian : Eldian refers to every citizen of Eldia. It's a nationality. Subject of Ymir is everyone linked to the Paths, able to turn into a Titan, be manipulated by the Founding Titan, etc... But, as 99,99% of the Eldians are SoY, the confusion is often made, and many people would call people that aren't SoY "non-Eldians" even if they still belong to the Eldian empire (example : many noblelines on Paradise aren't SoY, but still are Eldians since they live under an Eldian rule). But even the characters from SnK don't always make the distinctions.

Now, about the firsts SoY. From my POV :

We can debate about considering Ymir Fritz a SoY since she's the first, but we can say for that her three daughters were SoY by birth, the first ones if we don't consider their mother. And their children too were SoY, etc... But what about the people who ate the three daughters and yet weren't their children, which mean they weren't SoY ? Well, eventually, they still could eat the daughters, and gain a Titan Power, and with them and the children of the daughters, we have the first holders of the 9 Titans. I consider that those non-SoY who ate the daughters became SoY by eating them, for unknown reasons.

These non-SoY who ate the daughters were in a smilar situation as Ymir's : they were born as non-SoY, and gained a Titan Power. These are the only cases of people who weren't SoY by birth. These exceptions can be "explained" as it's still the genesis of the Titans.

Since this moment, every SoY is a SoY by birth. Ah, it would make sense that non-Subjects can become such by eating one of Forefather Fritz's kids; it also explains why not every Subject is a Fritz. Cool!

Though that does raise a question of how Ackermen were able to gain their own Paths realm through Titan experimentation despite not being Subjects, yet were immune to the Coordinate...