Board Thread:Manga/@comment-27321453-20200408113657/@comment-44328804-20200524004018

Eden Ushinatta wrote: That's not a bad theory, and I like how you incorporate the other side people are seeing here, that Eren isn't the villain he seems to be and that he may not actually be attacking Marley, hence the literal smokescreen we got this chp. Love how some Eren haters tried to twist the facts and say Eren DID attack Marley when the truth is it was left up to debate, and why would Isayama write it that way if Eren was the villain? Where exactly was it painted as dubious that Eren went ahead and attacked Marley? As Abdou already explained, Hanje only speculated where the titans are based on where the steam is, but she doesn't know whether or not that is the case. Yet people are trying to twist it into her saying Marley is already being destroyed, as what Hanje said is a fact when the truth is she only predicted, and she doesn't know for definite. I've seen quite a few Eren haters try to say this is "definite proof" Eren is the villain lol

The way the information was presented, it was clearly painted as a fact that Eren has already reached Marley and he has started his final attack. Hange knows geography and she is not blind. She saw the smoke of the titans and their location and made an educated guess. Not to mention, that Isayama has always painted Hange's speculations as correct. The urgency in her words when talking to her squad was evident.

Furthermore, Magath was with her and he seemed equally terrified and angry when confronting Yelena. He wouldn't have been like that, if he wasn't absolutely sure that Eren had reached Marley.

From a narrative standpoint, with the plot with the airplane being used to reach Eren, to what we know from the Final Exhibition, the amount of evidence that show how Eren is indeed trying to murder the entire world is overwhelming. Whether that makes him a villain or a hero is up for debate, but facts are facts.

Your "facts" aren't as factual you make them sound. Sure Hanje may know geography well, but she didn't say she knew for sure that she knows Eren is destroying Marley currently. All we got there is a literal smokescreen, so yes its up for debate, and so far, the only people saying this is "confirmation" are those who just called Eren a "villain" for no good reason for 2 years now. Magath isn't proof either, as he's only going off her words, and he doesn't know anything either. In fact, he didn't know how to act with the people around him until recently, so he's not necessarily "proof" either. So yeah, for the most part, Hanje's speculations are correct, but she can be wrong, and Isayama was careful to write her having a PREDICTION, not saying for a fact that Eren started destroying Marley which is what ur trying to insinuate here. She only made an educated guess, which she can be wrong about, its not like she was using a telescope or something.

But I'm glad you brought up the final exhbition here. We heard two things around when Armin called for Eren, 1) 3dmg 2) A train. So either way, it sounds like Eren is out of his titan form. It all still doesn't change the fact that we still have to see his perspective and have a ton of questions answered about Eren. NOTHING about him being "the final villain" as many called him made sense, just calling it how it is lol so keep that in mind going forward in case it turned out that Isayama tricked you here.