Board Thread:Manga/@comment-27321453-20200308161511/@comment-4383890-20200322041320

Drivebladesman wrote: LinksAMV wrote:

Penguinluver1431 wrote:

Neetaku wrote: Penguinluver1431 wrote: Neetaku wrote: Penguinluver1431 wrote: I don't pretend the people outside the Walls don't exist. I just don't care about them. We started the series with the Paradis Eldians before we even knew what an Eldian or a Paradis was. It's only fair that we support their wellbeing, and the Rumbling is the only way to do that.

Maybe you're new here, but I give zero shits about [and have zero empathy for] the Warriors or anyone outside the Walls. They've done too much to be forgiven or even remotely likable. And that was true even before the basement reveal; I was glad when Bertolt died. Hell, I CHEERED when he got what he deserved, and I've been hoping to Ymir that Reiner and Annie (and as of 105, Gabi) will get the same. Wait, but we also started this series with Bertolt, Annie and Reiner. By your logic, doesn't that mean that it's only fair that we support their wellbeing? Technically you're right in that we started with them as well. But then they were revealed to be the Titans behind all the tragedy and chaos that ruined  Eren's life. Whatever love and respect I had for them turned into pure hatred. And that hasn't changed with their "tragic" backstories revealed. So what if they were 'brainwashed' and 'child soldiers'? Boo hoo, the SC had tragic backstories too, didn't make them evil little shits.

Ironically, though, I like Zeke as a villain. I just wish they stuck with the psychopathic conductor of chaos who just wanted to watch the world burn, a la Joker, rather than make him into yet another misunderstood victim. What Eren did to Liberio was no better than what RBA did to Shiganshina. He killed dozens, if not hundreds of civilians who had nothing to do with the Paradis-Marleyan conflict. And before you say that they are evil for not standing up to Marley, let me remind you that they are all being kept in prison camps under the watch of armed guards. There's nothing they can do.

So, that being said, I can just parrot everything you just said about RBA back against Eren. He is responsible for all of the tragedy and chaos which will surely ruin the lives of many Liberio survivors (short as those lives may be if Eren gets his way). That doesn't change because of his "tragic" backstory. So what if his mother was killed in front of him? Boo hoo, the Warriors had tragic backstories too, and they're not trying to commit genocide on a global scale. Not that Hange or Armin ended up being much help; those spineless cowards absolutely refused to make the hard choices needed to protect Paradis from it's enemies. Ever hear the phrase "Mercy is weakness, strength is truth"? Nope. Never heard of it, and it sounds very naive in the first place (no offense meant to whoever wrote it). If you want to take revenge on someone who you feel has wronged you, and you take revenge, then you are obviously doing what is easiest for you. You're just doing what you want. On the contrary, if someone has wronged you and you decide to forgive them instead of taking revenge (which I would say goes against human nature), then you are clearly making harder choice simply by virtue of having the self control to deny your own base desires. It's why so many people do admire parents who forgive their child's murderer (because it does happen in real life; it's not something Isayama made up), even if most people acknowledge that they wouldn't be able to be so forgiving. It doesn't matter if they are real or fictional; any parent that just up and forgives their child's killer is pathetic. They're not the kind of people I would consider family, and I will always view those types of 'family members' as weaklings for not getting justice for their child. Taking Revenge is not justice lmao. Are you what? 12? You dont have the right to make justice with your own hands, because you are biased,and justice cannot be. And the only pathetic person here is the one who cant let go of their childish and pitiful hatred agaisnt fictional characters who were clearly not written for you to hate them. Ever. Justice cannpt be biased? Oh yes it can; in fact it has to be. Just look at One Piece, including this video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D6spXHrMQsM

Moral of One Piece is pretty much don't ever think for one second that morality is objective (well, except for the fact that power is the only thing that decides morality). I love that it's Doflamingo who's always making the most important speeches, including the one about power determining what justice is, especially considering he's an extremely vengeful individual forged into being a brutal monster for the sake of his ultimate goals. And like Eren, Doflamingo's longterm goal (eradicating the Celestial Dragons and World Nobles in revenge for leaving him for dead) will benefit the protagonists in the long run since they too would be in a much better world without people like Marley and the World Nobles ruling with an iron fist.