Talk:Power of the Titans

Titan Shifter chosen forms
I think it should at least be noted in Trivia that Rod Reiss said he "chose" the Titan form for Historia, indicating roles regarding the other Titan Shifters. This might be the case concerning the Colossal, Armored and Female Titans, as Bertolt used his massive foot (first time and again after graduation - all tasks concerning the Wall) to break the Wall and Reiner used his hard armor to break through the gate. Annie's multiple tasks have all required quick maneuver, as Armin theorized she led the Titans to Shiganshina following Bertolt's attack as well as seeking out Eren in the forest. One could argue that she hadn't seen that task coming, but then again, we don't know the nature of those who sent them on this mission so we can only speculate.Gourgeist (talk) 19:38, January 18, 2015 (UTC)

Rod Reiss
Why is Rod Reiss marked as a Titan Shifter in this page? He's not even a shifter, he's a normal Titan after taking that serum. -- NickFusi0n 20:47, February 9, 2015 (UTC)

Yeah, I really messed up. This whole thing has had me confused for a while now. Thank you. ^___^ Gourgeist (talk) 21:19, February 9, 2015 (UTC)

Marcel?
Marcel's page says he was a Titan shifter, so shouldn't he be added to the list?Neilandio (talk) 22:49, May 2, 2015 (UTC)


 * Yeah, the problem is that we don't have a picture of Marcel's Titan form so I have no idea of how to describe him. :/ Manuel de la Fuente (talk) 23:07, May 2, 2015 (UTC)

All of them once mindless titans?
It says on Ymir's section that she "-is currently the only confirmed case of a mindless Titan regaining their humanity." But is this even true anymore? It's pretty certain now that all shifters were once regular Titans (exept probably the very first ones). Even Eren was a mindless Titan before become a shifter, even if it was for just a few minutes. 78.23.235.139 12:37, May 9, 2015 (UTC)


 * I think it means that Ymir is the only mindless Titan from outside the Walls to regain her humanity. Remember, at some point she says she was a Titan wandering outside for about 60 years. Though if I'm not mistaken, even by my own clarification and your comment, that would also include Bertolt, Reiner, and Annie. It was also written before we knew how the others came about being shifters. So maybe a little clarification in Ymir's section, and likely the part about how they become shifters, is in order. EternalLocket (talk) 18:56, May 9, 2015 (UTC)


 * That's right, now we know that all of them were mindless Titans at some point, so that section was no longer accurate. The only real difference is that they gained their powers under a somewhat controlled process, and in Ymir's case it was more chaotic, wandering for decades until she casually crossed paths with another shifter. I have reworded that section in this way. Locket's suggestion should be added too.--Manuel de la Fuente (talk) 13:45, May 11, 2015 (UTC)

The generation of a Titan body
This is purely hypothetical and just a potential, scientific speculation, but could the Titan Shifters' ability to generate a Titan body due to the regular body's production of cells? I mean, like cellular division, only faster, similar to the Titans' ability to regenerate from injuries? --Aggression25 (talk) 10:38, May 17, 2015 (UTC)--Aggression25 (talk) 10:36, May 17, 2015 (UTC)

I don't think so, don't forget that the titan body is realy light, I doubt it is made of normal cells, also if that was the case why does healing take so long in normal form, when they can generate a huge body in a huge second.

I think the body may be something produced by the body that is similar to a cells, but all that I'm sure about is that it is not normal cells Grz349 (talk) 12:25, May 25, 2015 (UTC) 25/05/2015


 * My guess is that the Titan body is just made of compressed air or water vapor.


 * Firstly, it's impossible for a being of 1.70 m to generate a body of 15 m by mere celular division, because it doesn't have enough mass, and you can't generate mass from nothing. Unless you eat 2 tons of food before transforming, that's a violation of the physics laws.


 * Also, that "transformation" it's not really such thing, at least for Shifters. The Titan body just appears around the human body, while the latter remains unaltered.


 * Secondly, Hange described that the body is abnormally light; and everytime it's damaged, it releases steam while regenerating. Once the Titan dies or the Shifter leaves the body, the corpse simply evaporates without a trace.


 * I think the Titan serum gives the blood the ability to react with the air and use the surrounding water vapor to generate cells. Unconciously, it grants the user the ability to recover from injuries literally from the air; and when they have a specific goal in mind and expose their blood to the air from self-injuring, they can potentiate that ability to the limit of forming a giant body around their true one. The lightning that is seen during the transformation could be a result of the extremely fast movement of the water vapor while compressing, just like in regular storm clouds.--Manuel de la Fuente (talk) 13:20, May 25, 2015 (UTC)

I just re-read the section on the dangers of being in Titan form for too long and such, but one piece stated that the third time Eren transformed, his Titan was smaller. Does this imply that the Titan Shifters' ability to transform into Titans is temporary? --Aggression25 (talk) 08:20, June 3, 2015 (UTC)

Shifters become mindless Titans
If Titan Shifterss become more and more like regular Titans after transforming, how was Eren able to control himself during the fight with the Female Titan/Annie? - GINN-Producer (talk) 22:54, June 29, 2015 (UTC)
 * That only happens if the user remains transformed for a long time. I edited that paragraph to make this clearer.
 * BTW, if you are going to open a new topic, post it at the end of the page and not at the top.--Manuel de la Fuente (talk) 00:13, June 30, 2015 (UTC)

Armin's Titan
The form listed for armin is false. Shifters do not assume the same form as their mindless forms do, we know this from Eren's flashback to eating his father in chapter 62. There is no reason to assume that form is Armins shifter form

Murdermarshmallows (talk) 02:08, October 7, 2016 (UTC)

nine shifters
Seeing how we now know that there are only nine shifters, wouldn't it make sense to subdivide the titan shifter section into each shifter and chronologically list each of the holders of the power? It would make it easier to keep track of who has what power and how the succession goes. For example:

Rogue Titan Primogenitor titan We could subdivide the table we have right now for each section.
 * Kruger?
 * Grisha Yeager
 * Eren Yeager
 * First king
 * Mr Reiss.
 * Uri Reiss
 * Frieda Reiss
 * Grisha Yeager
 * Eren Yeager

Neilandio (talk) 21:53, November 16, 2016 (UTC)


 * I think something like this would be really useful for this page, but creating a table capable of showing the succession of Titans like that will be tricky.


 * In any case, we wouldn't use any unofficial names for each of the nine Titans, which leaves only "Colossus Titan", "Armored Titan", "Female Titan", "Beast Titan", and "Progenitor/Founding Titan". But the problem with this is, with the exception of the Progenitor Titan, all of these names are based only on the physical appearances of the Titans, and we can't say for sure whether or not the traits of these Titans (excluding Reiner's armor) are passed down to their successors. --GodKingReiss (talk) 00:15, November 17, 2016 (UTC)
 * I think we could use a table format similar to what's used here. The headers could be:
 * Name/Received from/Eaten by/Titan nickname
 * So for example for Bertholdt it would go like this:
 * Bertholdt Hoover/Unknown/Armin Arlert/"Colossal Titan"
 * And here goes the description and story as well as the image of the titan
 * Neilandio (talk) 18:07, November 18, 2016 (UTC)

Time of Life Remaining Difference
I know that one of them is lie, but before you berated me for bringing this question up.

So, is the nine years remaining of life true? Or is that actually thirteen years remaining of life?

Yes, I got that 9 years was from the source, but... here's the alternative source.

That's why I asked, and wished to know. I learned that 'alternative source' from Facebook. So if you think that this is a personal question, then feel free to answer that question on my Talk Page instead. I will not stop you from doing that. Thanks, FredCat 14:45, May 22, 2017 (UTC)


 * What we currently know about the Curse of Ymir is that those who inherit the power of the Titans die 13 years after inheriting said power. 13 years is the correct timespan, I'm not sure where nine years came from. The closest thing I can think of is Eren in the year 850 realizing he has just under 8 years left to live. --GodKingReiss (talk) 19:02, May 22, 2017 (UTC)

I see, but what about other two newer titan-shifters; Armin Arlert and that new owner of "Jaw Titan"? They immediately got nine years remaining. FredCat 23:14, May 22, 2017 (UTC)


 * Oh, I see! The article says Armin has nine years left to live now, in the year 854. Back before the 4-year timeskip, we logged that Armin had 13 years left to live. Galliard shouldn't be listed as definitely having nine years left though, since we can only guess at what time he ate Ymir. --GodKingReiss (talk) 01:43, May 23, 2017 (UTC)


 * Ah, now that made sense. Thank you for clean that up. I was only keep up with official released, paper-back manga, not the one from the site (Mangapanda) yet. FredCat 12:39, May 23, 2017 (UTC)

Anime Picture for the Profiles?
Now with my first question (above topic) is cleaned, I have a second question. Though it perhaps not needed to do so.

Would you add the anime picture of the Titan-Shifters in the article, along with the manga already there? The reason why I claimed "perhaps not needed to do so", because it perhaps take up more space than required. or you can go add in the tabber opinion to that and separate Manga version from Anime version (granted that we have yet to know Armin Arlert to become one in Anime).

This is just a suggest idea. FredCat 21:59, May 24, 2017 (UTC)


 * We don't need to add any anime profile images of the Titans to the article since we already have an anime page for Titan shifters. Those icons in the top right can be used to navigate between the different continuities. --GodKingReiss (talk) 23:34, May 24, 2017 (UTC)


 * Ah, that's the separate page. Thank you for a swift/quickly answer. Last time I checked here, it was on Chromo and all I saw was the video of them the Titan-Shifters in their Titan forms. ('twas on Wikia Skin, here in Safari site, I used Monobook.) FredCat 13:32, May 25, 2017 (UTC)

Estimating the Time Remains?
Alright, that's last question from me. And I know that it's speculation, which is strict forbidden from put on the article.

But I like to speak that out - So why not put in the estimating timeset of the Titan-Shifters' remaining of life spin. As I questioned about Jaw Titan-Shifter's time remaining was not confirmed because it was never telling specify when he obtained it from Ymir. Yes, he recalled a scene before he became a mindless Titan and devoured Ymir, but it didn't tell when he did that.

Also, I could theorizing that Female Titan could be able to keep her remaining 4 years (which was also estimated when one thread claimed about their receiving the Titan forms at same time, Annie with Reiner and Bertroit) while she was "sealed" in the crystal cocoon, or whatever you can call that she's trapped in. Why did I thought of that - Ymir again. She was a mindless titan for 60 years, and still had 13 years remaining when she regained her human being after devoured Marcel by accidentally. And both Annie's "Crystal Cocoon" (as I called it) and Ymir's "Mindless Titan" were used in same body - Titan. So if Ymir could surviving 60 years as Mindless Titan, then Annie can also survive 4 years, perhaps decade of being inside the crystal cocoon she set up on herself.

Again, the above comments I am posting here are completely speculation, so you're free to post some comments on it and not let them get on the article. I only wish to speak this from my mind, that's all. FredCat 22:02, May 29, 2017 (UTC)

Tenure
In chapter 94, page 36, young Zeke said that the new Warriors were to inherit the power of the Titans all at once. Wouldn't it mean that Annie, Reiner and Pieck are supposed to die at the same time as Zeke?--JOA20 13:25, November 25, 2017 (UTC)


 * On its own that would be the case, but information from other chapters reveals that Reiner currently has two years left to his term, and Annie mentions that the Warriors on the Paradis mission have the same time left. Given Pieck's appearance in the modern chapters and the flashbacks, it's no stretch to assume she's around the same age as them, with Zeke being the exception in age among the six.


 * With all this info together, we can conclude that Reiner, Pieck, and Annie have two years left to their lives, whereas Zeke only has one, which means he must have gotten his Titan a year or so ahead of the others. --GodKingReiss (talk) 23:46, November 25, 2017 (UTC)


 * Then I guess references should be added. Do you remember where it was said that Reiner has two years left?--JOA2010:33, November 26, 2017 (UTC)


 * If I remember right, Falco states that Reiner has two years left to his term towards the end of Chapter 93. It's at the beginning of this same chapter where Calvi mentions that Zeke has less than one year left. The part where Annie mentions they all have the same remaining time left is in the second to last scene of Chapter 96. --GodKingReiss (talk) 00:24, November 27, 2017 (UTC)