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Penguinluver1431 wrote: Jayrob95 wrote: Penguinluver1431 wrote: Jayrob95 wrote: Penguinluver1431 wrote:

Jayrob95 wrote: Penguinluver1431 wrote:

You just answered your own question there. You consider it weakness (note that’s your opinion not at all a fact) therefore any reason they could give you wouldn’t be satisfactory because you wouldn’t accept it and consider it as such. It’s not that you can’t understand it’s that you wouldn’t even if you were told. That sounds like you're saying I should be forced to care about "the other side" or show empathy towards Marley and the Warriors, even though there is nothing about them to empathize with. I have said many times, I do not CARE about the enemy perspective in AoT. They dug their own graves when RBA destroyed the Walls and set Eren on his current path (I cheered when Bertolt died, he had it coming, and I hope Reiner and Annie meet the same end). I shouldn't be forced to care about people whose side of the story is of no relevance to me. No it sounds like I’m saying what I said. You consider forgiveness or anything of the sort to be weakness so any explanation means nothing to you. Literally all I said there. No, I didn't say forgiveness in general is weakness. I said forgiveness for those who DO NOT DESERVE IT. Name ONE likable quality about the Warriors/Marleys characters that makes them worth forgiving for their heinous crimes. You’ve said it several times over the course of several discussions that you consider that kind of forgiveness as the makings of someone who is weak. Especially considering what they don’t deserve is forgiveness for killing a soldier who had invaded there home. Much like Bertolt dying during his invasion is a sad but ultimately expected result of war the same can be said for Sasha and her tragic death.

I mean I can name several. I’ll even use Gabi. Her desire to understand Reiner’s struggle, her willingness to die for her cause, while also trying to make sure Falco doesn’t die for her actions and assuring everyone he had nothing to do with what she’s done. The lengths she’s willing to go to try and save him. Her desire to prove the prejudice against fellow Eldians is wrong and how there not all evil which she’s been told all her life. Any one of those traits could be likable and admirable in a person. Except Bertolt knew the truth about Eldians, still choosing to kill hundreds of thousands of people. Sasha was just helping the SC get some well-deserved payback for the mistreatment of their people. Sasha and the SC did nothing wrong.

And none of those make Gabi likable. There are far too many despicable qualities in Garbage Braun and too many crimes (killing Sasha and shooting Eren) that will ever make her more than the piece of shit she is. Seriously, her begging for the SC to help save the world that wants to wipe them out was pathetic as hell.

He learned the truth and it ate him up (mentally of course, Armin finished the job physically) so much so he had to cope with the internal battle it caused. Sasha understands it as well it’s why she found no pleasure in his death and she likely didn’t find any pleasure in the invasion but did it anyway it’s a war you don’t need to hate who your killing. It just tends to make it easier.

You asked for likable qualities, I gave you likable qualities. You deciding those don’t make Gabi likable is irrelevant to the question because you don’t like Gabi. Especially cause killing Sasha and shooting Eren aren’t crimes, both happened during a war and both are soldiers. Her attempting to kill Kaya is a crime. Sasha..not so much. But Eren and Sasha are infinitely better characters than Gabi Sue. They both have more of a fanbase while Gabi has a more sizable hatedom. Oh look. Mr. “it’s not about having more fans” is bringing up the fans again. Also given how Eren and Sasha have been around since the beginning and aren’t supposed to be disliked characters in anyway while Gabi showed up super late and is on Marley’s side at the beginning and is a character who shows many of the uncomfortable aspects of patriotism and war such as child soldiers and how propoganda affects people’s perception of reality it would be a serious case of bad writing if they didn’t have more fans then her.

Also that still doesn’t change the fact those aren’t crimes.