Board Thread:Manga/@comment-25228560-20170402150806/@comment-26149647-20180308003001

''They should try to lessen the bloodshed than exacerbate it. In my thoughts I didn't say Marley is justified with what they are doing nor did I say that Eldian descendents should face the brunt of what their ancestors did. Also, I don't want real world analogies always being made seeing it is not entirely the same thing or even remotely the same. Additionally, I don't appreciate being called "naive" just because I had some different views. Is Zeke justified in his actions? No. Not really. He was pushed to them and he did show complete shock at Eldians being used as war fodder. I am not wrong about what happened. I said the Eldians are not innocent either. Did I say sure let Marley kill them then? No. I rather hate what the Marleyans are doing. I also hated Grisha thinking the Eldians are superior. My thoughts were that the Eldians on Paradis must learn from this and try to harmonise the world if possible. ''

Yeah now you're just repeating yourself. I may have exaggerated what I said about you being wrong, but I do think you're wrong about Grisha. He made many mistakes but he did not repeat history with Eren. And as for "harmonising the world", I'm sorry but if you think this has a happy ending you really haven't been paying attention. Alternatively, if you're just saying this is what they SHOULD do, not what they WILL do, you're right. They probably should. But realistically speaking (realistic being used in a loose sense here) there is no way that is going to happen.

''Also some people hate Attack on Titan now. They think that the mangaka is making one side look like Japan and the other Korea and completely condoning Japan's actions towards Korea. Which is like really unfair if the mangaka is drawing on that. ''

Okay, I did not realize that. All I see is a slight reversal of positions between the Eldians and the Marleyans dating all the way back to chapter one. But the difference here is that the focus is not wiping out every civilian (except in Floch's case) but killing the greatest threats to their existence. We must remember what Eren said back in Episode 4: "We didn't start this fight... but we will finish it." Even if they have became the demons that everyone claims them to be... I still see them as nominal heroes. I definitely disapprove of bomving civilian buildings but not people like Jean and Sasha clearly maintain some morals.

"My point to all this is that your delusions of peace and harmony for everyone are just that... delusions. This can't end with everyone happy. It never does. Someone will have to suffer. Someone will pay the price. And even then, the war may not end..."

''You know something. Saying this to me is exceptionally rude and pretty immature. Wanting to make the option of less casualties is something the real world at times strives, even as a front to do. You can disagree with me but saying my opinions are delusional makes me realise either you don't like people who don't have the same world views as you. Or, you aren't grown up much and so want to make basic discussions antagonistic. ''

That's your opinion. Of course you may not realize this, but it comes across as hypocritical and self-righteous. You act like I'm immature because I point out the obvious flaw in your desires. You don't like it, then don't read it. Though I do realize to call your opinions "delusions" may be a tad too much. Just saying that it really is not reasonable to believe that we can have peace right now. Also, making statements about my age, and trying to hold the high moral ground make you out to be rather obnoxious.

Sorry, if I offended you but at the same time, you should grow up.