Board Thread:Manga/@comment-39295103-20190704080517/@comment-25933225-20190705091548

Nightkathu wrote: Sorry for not being so specific but damn you did your research and I like that (and I ment like who committed more atrocities ,military power ,and citizen welfare )personally I would say marley  because if I'm not mistaken eldia used titans as weapon against other empires and that teachnically thats human experimentation any way after eldia took over yimir died and then marley sprung up and that began the great titan war  and you know what happens next but the Marleyns did have mercy and made "ghettos" for the eldians trapped on the continent.

And marley treated them with respect ( kind of)and to be honest I think  marley treats their own citizens waaay better  because they give you food on your plate clothes on your skin and shelter over your head also marley has a way bigger  military then paradis island and treats their soldiers more fairly and is well respected by citizens of marley and I think their government is more stable then eldias you see where I'm going here and at least they don't turn their own citizens into titans Well, you got the idea: we can't really decide, it's up to us and our judgement of it, and what we decide to consider. That's why I like stories like that that just show us that good or bad don't really have a sense, it's all a matter of point of view. That's also why I used to like GoT, they showed us that good or bad is just a matter of point of view, that manicheism doesn't make sense at all... Just to toss that away for the two lasts seasons, making it one of the stories with the biggest manicheism I've ever seen.

Tho, I wouldn't necessarilly say that Marley treats the Eldians with respect. At least, they show as much respect as they would to their animals: they give them food, places to live, but they're still consider them as lower beings (I'm talking about Marley's policy, not the citizens point of view, there are plenty of different POV. I suppose that some might defend Eldians, and consider their made-up History as  propaganda that serves Marley's interests, but just don't show it because they would be imprisonned. Even Hansi talked about associations all over the world defending Edlians's rights, but they're not taken seriously and don't have any power.)

So yes, maybe Marley is "better" than Eldia (prior to the Great Titan War), but we can't make generalization: as I said, under the rule of some kings, the world might have lived peaceful decades, prosperating. As an example, when a pandemy occured, the king saved his people, and it also has stopped the disease from expanding, saving the countries close to Eldia, like Marley.