Talk:Titan Shifters

Ymir's years of 'mindless' titan-ing
Was the word 'mindless' or similar word used? In the translation I read it wasnt so I cant argue for or against. I bring this up because of the existance of the Titan who cried and spoke Ymir's name, indicating a level of sophistication that Ymir must have had (or otherwise, a level of sophistication hidden from humans). I thought the point was was that Ymir was trying to condition several titans into not consuming humans, indicated by the titan crying and attempting to fight the urge to consume his captive whilst uttering Ymir, but with Ymir now a human again no longer there to keep these specific titans in check they can no longer resist the urge. That is just speculation of course.

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That exact word was not used, no. However, the information we given illustrates the standard mindless state of a Titan.

1. Instinct to eat people

2. No control over actions

3. No retained memories

4. Being trapped in a dream-like state (as shown when Eren behaved as a regular Titan and attacked Mikasa)

Therefore, a mindless state as she had no control over her actions, no memories retained from that time, and an instinctive compulsion to attack and eat people.

As for your speculation, I think that's pretty much shot down by what Ymir reveals in ch. 47. The reason the Titan reacted that way to Ilse is because she looked like Ymir, and so the Titan thought she was Ymir. It's very likely, with how we now know that people can be turned into Titans, that it knew her before it became a Titan. Not that she had been training Titans to behave themselves, as Ymir herself admits she had no control over herself during her 60 years in Titan form and ate humans.

--Harostar (talk) 04:56, July 27, 2013 (UTC)