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NephilimGear wrote: Junior0124 wrote:

NephilimGear wrote:

Junior0124 wrote: Yah that 1700 year cleansing never happened Are you telling me it didn't happen? Well, I am not sure it completely didn't. Maybe, Ymir Fritz didn't do any damage but I am sure the nine titans did. They completely conquered Marley. No, seriously, was it just propaganda? because it is cited as something that did happen. And, no, I don't agree with Grisha Jaegar at all. Nor do I agree with Marleyan government mistreating Eldians. Nor do I agree with how Paradis treated its Asiatic citizens. They were persecuted and exiled. The socio-politics of Paradis are as bad as Marley. The Reiss family were okay if Eldians from Marley had hurt their citizens as long they can keep the coordinate. That is also oppression. To be honest, maybe you are right. There may have been some sort of ethnic cleansing which explains the lack of diverse races e.g. Asians etc. But during the conversation between Grisha and Kruger, Kruger states that if there really was a 1700 year period of ethnic cleansing then Marleyans would not exist - they would have been wiped out also. This implies that cleansing never really happened especially now that the Middle East are gearing up for war means that there are still more races out there.

Given the power of the Eldians, Ymir's Titans could easily have wiped out all other races in less than 100 years let alone 1700. In fact they wouldn't have needed to lift a finger. The fact that the Wall King said that if the Marleyans disturbed his Paradise then he would release the millions of wall Titans and lay waste to the world. This shows just a glimpse of the power of Ymir's people and Ymir herself could probably accomplish even more.

One thing I am curious about is the real truth of the Titans, because during that conversation Kruger discredits everything that had been discovered thus far. As Owl, he sent false historical documents to the Eldian Restorationists to boost their morale as when Grisha confronts these facts, Kruger simply says that in this world there is no such thing as the truth, anyone can make up a story and claim it as the truth. It seems that the nine Titans are real but how did Ymir actually obtain Titans power. I'm not sure but the story of Ymir's soul being split into the nine Titans and her receiving the power of the Titans from a devil may have been one of the false historical documents which makes it even more confusing. I think the genocide of other races could easily have skipped over some Marley races. I think it can be partly true. What is incontrovertible is that Elidans did take away much of Marley land and all as conquerers. If they divvied up everything perhaps the Marleyans would not have been so angry and do all that they did. Also, as we know that Titans are well, cheap killing machines used by Eldians think of how Marleyans were devoured so that Eldians can win their conquest. Ethnic cleansing does not always ensure wipe out entirely but reduce numbers. In 1700 years Marley population may have grown again after that. But yes, I don't agree when Grisha Jaegar said what his ancestors did was right. Nor, do I agree with the Marleyan government. I am not at all happy with Paradis either.

You know one good thing about another anime like "Full Metal Alchemist" is that it actually tackled these controversial elements. We don't exactly know what the "unseen paths" are that allow people with Eldian blood to transform to titans but uptil now they are the only race (I think some Marleyans can) who can turn into Titans. The flesh and bone coming from somewhere. Ha Ha Philospher's stone (FMA joke).

Yes, what or who did Ymir Fritz make this pact with. This source of organic material. Was it a demon? Will Eren have to fight this demon last? I am curious.

Mid East Allied forces are actually good guys it seems. I actually am curious about all of this. Yes, it great AOT is going outside the walls. But, I actually also liked that so-called leaked information that Titans were made a guy to wipe out humanity. This new lore is also kinda interesting. And, I actually once did imagine Titans as construction workers and all of that. I hope this isn't some Marley vs Eldian story because then it will become anachronistic and boring.

It's very true that the 1700 year ethnic cleansing may not have been 100% successful. The Titan War proved this as the Eldians eventually lost. I'm not entirely sure whether Grisha said that what his ancestors did were right but it may have been because of the false historical documents that Kruger (aka Owl) sent the Eldian Restorationists and well a sense of patriotism. In the face of the oppression him and his country men were receiving it's not surprising that Grisha would believe in what his ancestors had done as he would feel nothing but hatred to the kind who killed his sister.

Im not sure if it's the "unseen paths" that allow Eldians to become Titans, I just think it's how they are due to Ymir's pact with the "devil". It's kind of like Ymir's curse of dying 13 years after becoming a Titan shifter. The "unseen paths" connect Eldians to the Founder Titan and allows for the supernatural transferal of Shifter abilities. While Eren was reciting from a dream about his father to Armin, Eren says that even if a Titan shifter dies without being consumed by another Titan, there powers will automatically reside within a newborn Eldian baby probably due to the "unseen paths" that connect them. The manga states that only Eldians can turn into Titans, maybe half Marleyans and half Eldians can still do it. And yeah the flesh and bone thing is so weird like how is that even possible maybe it's from the source of organic material that Titan bodies are created and hardening is possible.

We know nothing really about the Mid East Allied Forces except that they have the technology to take down even one of the 9 Titans with a single missile. They may be good or evil who knows but I think they are just fighting against the Marleyans quest for imperialism. The people from Paradis may have to fight alongside them.

Haha, I even thought for a minute myself that maybe some guy in a laboratory created Titans as weapons or something.