Board Thread:Manga/@comment-34196931-20190708230504/@comment-35822279-20190725021904

WaterKirby1994 wrote: I would have to agree with Cart Titan representing loyalty, & Jaw being the titan of self-sacrifice, while the Founder (because of Karl Fritz) represents Apathy & Pacifism, which Eren is fortunately immune to. I personally believe that it wasn't that Frieda Reiss was a weak Titan Shifter, more that she was screwed over by the inherited will of her titan. It seems quite likely that the Founding Titan itself is weak in a 1 on 1 fight without relying its true power. The command over all titans & memory altering abilities are where the Founding Titan's true strength lies.

When it comes to raw power I agree with your ranking except for Founder for the reason listed above. Still you forget Speed is also a thing, which goes Cart > Jaw >>> Attack, Armor, & Female > Beast > Colossal. The Founding & War Hammer are more complicated to rank in terms of speed, although Warhammer seems about equal with Eren in terms of speed, however is limited in movement when using Tyber's technique of hiding underground. Founding Titan was only really seen in action once when Frieda & Grisha fought which makes it hard to rank. As well as that we may be giving Attack Titan too much credit as the only times we've seen it unfused with the Founder are during that fight & when Eren Kruger used it.

Bertolt was also not that skilled as a Titan Shifter much like Reiner, with Annie clearly being the most skilled of the Warrior Trio. Armin is probably more skilled than Bertolt when it comes to using the Colossal thanks to his intelligence. I will say that Eren is the most skilled user of the Attack Titan that we know of & the current most powerful titan shifter, however he doesn't really have much skill at utilizing the WarHammer Titan or the Founding Titan. I have to agree that Pieck is probably 1 of the 3 most skilled titan shifters we've seen in action so far alongside Annie & the prodigy Zeke. Fortunately the Beast that Zeke inherited was 1 of the weaker titans. Had he gotten the WarHammer or Colossal Titans instead he would have been unstoppable.

Annie's probably not getting out of that crystal except by means of The Rumbling. Personally I don't understand why it has to be all or nothing & can't just awaken some of the wall titans that are nearby to use them to defeat enemies. Back to the subject of Annie I would like to think it possible that Armin could have awakened her as a result of the memory sharing he did in Chapter 110 & that she could potentially arrive on Armin's side. There are currently 3 sides (Paradis, Yeagerists, & Marley) aren't there? - Frieda is the weakest shifter as she would have lost against any of the other shifters seen in the series so far as the Founder is a incredible ability but with interference from Karl taking away that ability she was left with lacking combat abilities (Rod stated this as being the reason for her death).

- Bert was considered a prodigy with that Titan from my memory with Magath or Reiner stating that he had excellent control of it even at the beginning of his term despite the titan being the hardest to control and in the series he used it pretty well with a solid understanding of the Titans capabilities (disappearing on a moments notice, creating fires, going boom, keeping opponents off him etc.) and showed excellent control of his abilities (in the Clash Of Titans arc he was the reason they won against Eren) and I think if he had stronger mental fortitude he would have been even better. Armin has only been seen using the explosion so its hard to say how good he is but I assume he's solid.

- I think Zeke isn't let down by the Beast which is evidently still strong (long range artillery is always strong) but by how incredibly arrogant he is and how he refuses to evolve his tactics being caught off guard twice by Levi & Pieck and also failing to read or even comprehend Levi in that forest fight arrogantly thinking that using his troops against him would break Levi mentally when Levi sacrificed his best friend to defeat him the last time. Zeke pretty much embodies the idea of "Pride comes before the fall" (pretty interesting for a nihilist to also be prideful) and I think the War Hammer and Colossal would increase that problem tenfold as Zeke would probably end up expending his energy at a bad time (these titans require patience and strategy in my opinion).

- I always thought that Porco would have busted Annie out with the Jaw considering him and Pieck were snopping around Paradis (with the chaos on the island it would be easy to find her) but since he's dead that would have to fall to the newly minted Falco. I think that Annie deeply respects Armin for his cunning nature but she wouldn't forsake her father for him and unless Paradis/Yeagerists convince her that her father will be protected she won't join them as she doesn't like Reiner or know Falco but Pieck is a pretty slick gal and I think if she survives the current fight she could easily re-recruit Annie to the Warrior's side (just mention the raid on liberio and jackpot). Of course the wildcard in this situation is whether Armin could leverage any potential Bert memories against her (Bert loved her and Annie seemed to have a better relationship with him than Reiner) but I think her father trumps all other relationships and feelings.