Board Thread:Manga/@comment-34196931-20200108165627/@comment-37493549-20200123215318

Drivebladesman wrote: I thought the raising of the Walls happened a century ago, and that there was no doubt about that. Wouldn't that make your point about grandparents debunked, since nearly nobody lives to age 100? Even then, the Eldians who happened to be alive at the time would have to have been infants or toddlers, who (especially the former) obviously wouldn't remember their childhoods, by the present era,. l'm saying that the grandparents of people who are alive today (understand what I'm saying here, I'm not saying the grandparents are alive today, I'm saying the people who they were grandparents OF are alive and in positions of power) were persecuted by the empire and lived through the great titan war first hand. They know all about the 'devils' because that description was actually true at the time. It was eldians battling and literally eating each other to gain power, with the other nations under their thumbs the whole time and likely being used as cannon fodder. Pure titans were weapons of war and levelled entire cities in the fighting.

So the view of those 'devils' is still ingrained in the culture and has been passed onto the current generation by people who experienced it. They are the ones who came up with this operation paradis plan and set it in motion so that what they lived through never happens again.

Drivebladesman wrote: Again, why should I value the lives of the people outside of Paradis? Most of them are beyond saving and not worth keeping alive, since they're part of the majority of humanity that keeps on failing and not learning their lessons properly. Plus, Eren could potentially use the Founding Titan to modify most surviving humans to mentally evolve and become internally better (even being a mindless drone would be better than being full of fail and inability to learn). Who are you to judge that? Practically every outsider who actually understands what's going on within the walls (that most of them aren't devils anymore) has become gradually less and less racist to the point where they start self-loathing because of the lies they've been indoctrinated with. And the Marleyans who get screen time in the series happen to be child soldiers that have been trained their entire lives specifically to kill paradis eldians. That is, they're the ones who should be the worst of the worst when it comes to prejudice. And even THEY quickly learn the errors of their ways when exposed to the truth.

Not to mention Eren is destroying the entire world indiscriminately here, not just the tiny proportion who actually know the truth and continue with their prejudices despite knowing better. Are you saying Grisha was incapable of learning and would deserve to die if the rumbling happened to occur 15 years earlier? The asians? The foreign refugees they got drunk with in the tent? The volunteers?

Drivebladesman wrote: Also, I do gotta ask:  Why wouldn't the logic of "reviving" the population after wiping out nearly all of them work?

As for not exterminating all Eldians, the only reason for that was because Marley wanted to exploit the Titans for use as superweapons, nothing more. Also, sure they could keep only enough Eldians alive for use as Warriors, but I'm pretty sure they let more continue living so they have some "spares" in case they end up with an insufficient amount of Shifters. Are you seriously asking why genocide of a people judged as 'inferior' to make way for a 'superior race' is a terrible thing?

And they clearly don't just keep the entire eldian population (hundreds of thousands) around as 'spares', that's an absurd demonization of Marley to try to force the narrative that they are completely evil and beyond hope for redemption. They allow the eldians to live somewhat normal lives. Yes they are second class citizens who suffer institituonal discrimination and poverty, but they are afforded the right to exist. Something that Eren has denied everyone outside the walls.