Board Thread:Manga/@comment-27321453-20200408113657/@comment-24407809-20200409205432

Penguinluver1431 wrote: Neetaku wrote: Penguinluver1431 wrote: Winston4278 wrote: Neetaku wrote: Alright, I guess it's time for me to bat down the "Gabi is a Mary Sue" criticism again. I'm sure eventually it will get addressed.

The definition of a Mary Sue is "an idealized and seemingly perfect fictional character" who can "usually perform better at tasks than should be possible given the amount of training or experience, and usually are able through some means to upstage the main protagonist of an established fictional setting, such as by saving the hero."

Gabi is so incredibly inept that it's almost comical. Her entire character arc during this final arc revolves around being completely humbled by the fact that she can't do anything right, and keeps getting the ideology that she grew up with (all Eldians are evil) proved wrong the all of the good Eldians living on Paradis. While I applaud you laying this out once again Neetaku, I have to agree with Razzylada: despite all the evidence you presented, it will STILL not be enough to quell those who hate Gabi with a fiery passion and label her as such (probably through and past the end of the series). Correct. Because no matter how unlikable she was in the beginning, killing Sasha was all it took for Gabi to deserve death, and nothing she does will ever atone for that. And as long as that self-insert runs around with plot armor, I will continue to call her a Mary Sue. And in case you aren't paying attention, there are still plenty of people who hate Gabi despite her sorry excuse for "redemption". I don't care. What I care about is that you keep calling her a Mary Sue when she does not in any way meet the definition of one. And if plot armor is all that is required to make a character a Mary Sue (which it's not, no definition of the term has that as part of the criteria) then Eren, Armin, Levi, Hange, Floch, Zeke, Reiner... everyone in the main cast is a Mary Sue. But I'm pretty sure most if not all of those characters are going to die before the end, thus negating their plot armor. Garbage Braun is likely gonna live happily ever after despite being an evil little shit, that botched abortion doesn't deserve to be happy. Nothing you just said would make her a Mary Sue. If surviving the series they are in makes a character a Mary Sue (which it doesn't) then almost all fictional characters in existence are Mary Sues.