Board Thread:Wiki/@comment-28807545-20160621071026/@comment-5774380-20160705001019

I will explain this situation as clear as I can. Your argument is based on a very logical reasoning: we should have proof that a person is dead before labeling them as such, and if a person's status is not known then it should be marked as "unknown". That's a perfect thinking for the real world, but you're ignoring two things:


 * 1) You haven't defined what exactly you consider as "proof". This was something I addressed some messages above with the "expecting to see a medic checking the clinical statuses of characters before labeling them as deceased", because in 82 chapters and almost 7 years of the series, this has happened... never.  In many cases the characters are just shown getting thrown away and are never seen again. This is one aspect where the "fiction, not reality" comes into play, because we can't "make inquiries" or "investigate the crime scene" or anything beyond what little information was given to us, so we're forced to work with just that and nothing more. Someone could argue, for example, that Luke Siss or Traute Carven might be alive because their deaths were never "confirmed"; although the extreme circumstances of their demises clearly indicate that they are dead (and falling from 14 meters and being hit by debris is less extreme than being burned alive and falling from 60 meters). Also, I could argue that we indeed received proof of Armin's death, as he was referred as such three times in the chapter, by Bertolt, Eren, and finally the narrator, who is none other than Isayama himself speaking in his own words, and this is a better proof than those we have received for many characters in this series.
 * 2) If we use the reasoning of "if we don't know their status, label them as unknown", then we should mark as "unknown" every character that didn't appear in the latest chapter, because we don't know if they were still alive at the time of the current events. We don't know if Levi is still alive after facing Zeke's Titans; we don't know if Kitz Weilman is still alive because he hasn't been seen since the Clash of the Titans arc and could have suffered an accident or been murdered by his own men; we don't know if Daz is alive because he hasn't been seen since the graduation and maybe died of a heart attack. That method evidently doesn't work, and that's why we use the approach of "if there's no reason to believe that they are dead, label them as alive; if there's no reason to believe that they are alive, label them as dead".
 * 3) * As extra point, you can stop citing real life cases of people surviving extreme circumstances, because if we're going to take that into account, then I could argue that Goggles could be alive, since I've known of people surviving after getting their face destroyed by a bullet (search for "Besim Kadriu", for example). But none of that matters if Isayama hasn't heard of those cases and/or doesn't give a damn about them.

The system is flawed, I agree, but the one you propose is equally flawed. That's why I mentioned my conversations with the other wiki's admin about developing a better standard, and that's why I responded to this thread in the first place, because I was interested in listening your opinions on the matter; but it's obvious that you don't know how to maintain a civil conversation or defend your views without offending your interlocutor, so this discussion is pointless.

By the way, I have already warned you several times about watching your words and you have repeatedly insulted various users in two different threads, so you're now blocked for continuous misconduct. If you're unable to express your opinions without insults, then I don't care about your opinions at all. I'll have to look for someone else to discuss this matter with.