Board Thread:Manga/@comment-34196931-20190708230504/@comment-35822279-20190714192052

Cheng The Nerd wrote: Freeman1378 wrote: Cheng The Nerd wrote: Here's a question.

We already know that The Rumbling will be a disadvantage for Marley with the wall titans coming to life and all BUUUUUUT will it be win for the Eldians, especially with Eren controlling them with Zeke's help.

From what we've managed to gather, the rumbling was a measure that Karl Fritz created if ever Marley decided to attack and start a war with Paradis with the hope for there to be peace (Welp, so much for that). So if the rumbling does come to pass (Which i'm sure will happen coz Isayama cant just bring it up and not explore it further) will Paradis gain the upper hand, with Zeke wanting to implement the Euthanasia plan, unless Eren pulls a 180 on him, betrays him and goes gangsta on his ass with his founding titan abilities? From what I remember Karl intended the rumbling to be a empty threat that would scare the world into leaving Paradis alone for awhile leaving its inhabitants to enjoy paradise in his mind. He knew Marley would come one day to enact revenge and he was just going to let his subjects die in the ensuing invasion for the sins he felt they were guilty of (very similar to Zeke). I honestly feel if Zeke wasn't such a unreliable figure and the Yeagerists didn't generate so much chaos (not to mention an embararssing showing in this fight) Paradis would have already won after all this fight proves that Marley isn't particularly that impressive as Reiner is aiming to be king of the jobbers (I love him as a character but he has never beaten another character without help), Porco is dead, Pieck is screwed against Mikasa/Armin, and there general appears to be there only competent soldier (also possibly dead or horribly injured) and with the current situation I think they really need Annie's help to turn things around. The world is basically going to converge in one location making there forces easy to destroy with the Wall Titans (a nice backbreaking trap) and giving Paradis more time to develop stronger weapons. The 3DMG is already ace so I think if they develop an air force and some anti air guns they could mount a good defense in the future heck the Vietcong did that in real life with no air superiority and a smaller army against a super power (nasty traps, understanding of the terrain, and guerilla warfare made the difference there). The only thing Paradis has to worry about is sheer numbers and high flying targets (the blimps were close to the ground here) but the Wall titans have no equal in a world without the atomic bomb so as long as Eren is fine Eldia is fine. Zeke is definitely the endgame boss though and I believe he will be the final opponent if Eren is dead or alive as Eren will never go ahead with his plan and he would probably take a far more hostile form of euthanization if the one person he truly cares for is dead (cue a rumbling with far more apocalyptic notions than even Eren at his most vicious). i see. so how do you think our boi Zeke is going to pull it off in the event of Eren being dead or might potentially go against his plan If Eren is dead I think he's going to catch his head (a head can survive for a moment so the Founding could still be active for that brief moment) and activate the Wall Titans attempting to kill the entire world in a moment of grief fuelled rage rather than the merciful death for the Eldians he has been planning. I have thought quite a bit about how Eren and Zeke would fight each other for control and instead of a physical battle I think it will be something akin to FX's Legion where the protagonist and antagonist occasionally battle with their minds in an entirely seperate plane of existence (the astral plane in X-Men terms). I think Zeke & Eren could engage each other in a similar fashion meeting in the Paths dimension for a fight or a talk (possibly with the OG Ymir) for which wish will be carried out by the Founding Titan. The will for the two respectively I think will be sterilization of the Eldians for Zeke while Eren will modify the bodies of Eldians to be unable to transform into Titans and be severed from the will of the Founder (the Eldians would be truly free in that sense) and on top of this will summon the Wall Titans one last time to act as the defenders of Paradis. This is my best guess to how this is going to end as the titan problem is relatively easy to solve with the Founder's biology ability  but the series also has to solve sociological problems inherent to mankind (Ex. nations and people have long memories, enemies will always exist, suffering and evil can never be wholly eliminated) and most series fall flat here in there endings. I honestly can't even guess how this will conclude thematically but it should be interesting to see if it can stick the landing (the series recent hot streak suggests it will at least be wildly entertaining).