Board Thread:Manga/@comment-34196931-20200108165627/@comment-33873869-20200123190008

TKGriffiths wrote: Drivebladesman wrote: I think it may have to do with some of these factors:

1)  Marley and the rest of the world originally hated Eldians due to the atrocities committed by people who are no longer alive.  Eren and his friends, on the other hand, were harmed by people who are still alive. You realize that the worldwide tyranny of the eldian empire isn't some irrelevant ancient history right. Karl Fritz building the walls and threatening to crush the rest of the world with the rumbling if they displeased him happened only a few decades (a century max) before the start of the series. Grandparents of the older people that are alive in the series at the moment would have lived through it.

As far as Marley are concerned the eldian empire is alive and well and capable of flattening them at any moment. They didn't know that Fritz brainwashed his own people into forgetting that they're the eldian empire. Neither do they know about the vow to renounce war or that the founder can only by used by royal blood (Not that either of those things stopped Eren anyway, meaning their concerns were entirely justified).

That's why they sent the warriors to paradis, to secure the founder and remove the threat. Of course the warriors killed a lot of people but you can see how they'd think it was justified to literally save the world.

Drivebladesman wrote: Plus, destroying every human on the outside world and killing dissenting Paradisians that Eren can't brainwash could possibly be an effective way of ending the revenge cycle for good. Plus, Eren could make up for all those deaths by generating even more living people on those dead lands, reviving them like a phoenix revives itself. He may have killed lots of people, but he could end up creating even more lives to replace the dead and bring the world's human population back up to its previous number. This is some sick perspective. You're literally describing a 'final solution'. I thought the raising of the Walls happened a century ago, and that there was no doubt about that. Wouldn't that make your point about grandparents debunked, since nearly nobody lives to age 100? Even then, the Eldians who happened to be alive at the time would have to have been infants or toddlers, who (especially the former) obviously wouldn't remember their childhoods, by the present era,.

Yeah, I'm aware that most Marleyans are unaware of Karl Wheezer's pacifism and that threats of the Rumbling are a lie; however, I remember a few mentions of Marley's military (such as the Warriors, Tom Xaver, and possibly Magath (though my memory's more fuzzy for the third guy)) telling others that the current Coordinate holder is mentally bound by a vow of pacifism. Thus I'm pretty sure that Calvi and the other Marleyan elite know the truth about the King (after all, it does make you wonder how some of these people know about that).

Even if the imps wanted to remove the threat of the Rumbling, shouldn't they have put their brains to work and ponder why Paradis was so passive for a century?

Again, why should I value the lives of the people outside of Paradis? Most of them are beyond saving and not worth keeping alive, since they're part of the majority of humanity that keeps on failing and not learning their lessons properly. Plus, Eren could potentially use the Founding Titan to modify most surviving humans to mentally evolve and become internally better (even being a mindless drone would be better than being full of fail and inability to learn).

Also, I do gotta ask:  Why wouldn't the logic of "reviving" the population after wiping out nearly all of them work?

As for not exterminating all Eldians, the only reason for that was because Marley wanted to exploit the Titans for use as superweapons, nothing more. Also, sure they could keep only enough Eldians alive for use as Warriors, but I'm pretty sure they let more continue living so they have some "spares" in case they end up with an insufficient amount of Shifters.