Board Thread:Manga/@comment-5774380-20160109013258/@comment-27199224-20160109045617

Manuel de la Fuente wrote: we also know that the Beast Titan is not Grisha or Zackly, and the possibilities of him being Erwin's father seem to decrease too.  To me it's Sieg (Zeke) Leonhardt. my japanese is limited although he speaks of Annie with this closeness, this familiarity, "Annie chan", and then he eventually adds, "She may hiding, she's practicing her kicks", i don't see the scenario when Reiner and Bert add Annie is good at hand to hand combat. To me, it makes sense the father of Annie appears after the Female Titan Arc ends, the titan screaming in the forest, in the walls, maybe if he's so close to the titans to command them probably the tatins can inform him as well about what's going on the forest with the giant trees. And it maybe this possibility, he just mentioned the kicks, because they are military like trained so he just tried to calm them with something they are... familiar with. But it's like super known Annie was good at it because his dad pushed her to be excelent at it. And i'm very convinced Zeke is Annie's daddy cause: The Marco talk, it wasn't just to push us the Rainer hurt fans to hate him, the way i see it, it's as Rainer and Bert sit down, drinking coffee talking to Zeke like, "And then she took his 3DMG and i made sure she didn't feel any compassion for that guy, we even saw when the titan was chewing and all, sir, your daughter did fine as a warrior"

 If Rainer is alive or not doesn't matter, i think he's not safe, now he's fresh meat. to me  what it matters now is:   Who's going to get that warrior's armor?

A) Humanity, Erwin specifically, i'm not sure, it's probably insane, maybe that's the reason why they are publishing #78 in March; Erwin may get the inyection and eat Rainer once the Colossal lands and kills most of the soldiers, i mean when Erwin realizes there's no actual chance to get into the basement anymore, he may act that selfish.   The other posibility is that Isayama -against his will, and to delight the fans, and therefore Kondansha- will convert Rivaille into a titan shifter

B) Titans, Bertholdt becoming stronger by eating his friend, it's like his right, bear his beloved friend's armor. But i can see any "warrior"  even the quadrupedal turning into a shifter too.

And i'm completely confused here. I need help to understand one thing despite what my theory about Zeke being Annie's father is; Is the titan trio as well as Zeke from the homeland? because i had this idea since the Utgarde castle sequence that The beast titan was ReinBert's part of the plan to retrieve coordinates to their homeland. Ignoring the fact that they were kinda forced to ally Zeke, then what's with Zeke, where is he from?

At first i thought it was Zeke Jaeger, Grisha's brother or something like that, but if turns to might be Annie's posible father... and this makes me think about the start of this story, Bert, Marcel, Reiner were sent together, we only see Bert and Reiner appearing to break the walls, we can see a cameo in the anime when the bread rations are given to the refugees Annie is already there, it's smart to never be seen the 3 of them altogether from the start, but now, what if there's not only the "homeland" faction outside the walls, i think of Grisha and the loss of memory he experienced before getting inside the walls, probably he was acting but! what if he was a 'mindless titan' what if he participated in the Titan making project, and also it was the 1st titan Reiss and turned Grisha into a mindless to prevent him to act against his plans with that weapon, then who and how did Grisha eat a titan shifter outside the walls? I can't, i just don't believe the idea that he disobeyed the "homeland" plans of stealing the Reiss coordinate, IF he was sent from there, that's why i have this idea, there's more humans (or titan / humans) that actually want to end with the Titan plague instead of the Homeland's intentions: exterminate humanity and have the coordinates to live proudly as titans.

What if the homeland people have this idea of the humanity in the walls being despicable people that accepted brain wash, losing all the knowledge, asian/ackerman genocid,  just to be safe inside the walls that were builded for titans, humans that embraced the Reiss monarchy (probable the guy that corrupted the titan -this is part of my theory- commanding shifter/serum to have his own will living forever through generations) and the family ruled through this fanatic Wall Cult... and leave the rest... I'm really sorry about the Wall of text here. I spilled my gut/heart here.

 Fact is that we don't know:

 What the Ackerman are seems like they were made from who started this biological  engineering, The origin of the titan shifters and the Wall titan Column people Titan arquitecture (which it seems to be a lot of work!) and all those who probably participated, the Reiss, probably the Jaegers, and some other people from the Homeland that were involved (and maybe that's why they want revenge) and some of the families living inside the wall Sina on planning "that perfect world" for the chosen ones that accepted the Reiss ideology. How did Zeke managed to turn a Village into Titans (is that how everything started? the 1st Reiss was the master mind of the terrorists?) which it leads me to a very important question here: WHO ARE THE GOOD PEOPLE HERE?! I don't think the 1st generation was generously saved just in exchange to abandon the world as they knew it, i think  if they sympathized with the Reiss,  the end of the world it maaay be their fault those walls weren't there ready to save them just because.. and the Homeland people.. i bet there maybe some there are still asians that actually could escape, they act like rebels but they are kinda proud of the world they live... and uhm i lost my mind... sorry but Zeke Leonhard/Jaeger and Grisha Jaeger always lead me to think a lot of things, specially if they are/were 100 yrs + old.