Board Thread:Manga/@comment-27321453-20200308161511/@comment-37493549-20200310021910

Penguinluver1431 wrote: Except for the fact that Liberio citizens knew the truth about Marley's crimes against Paradis and supported them the whole way. What truth? All they knew is that the eldian empire terrorized the world for thousands of years, that they're still there behind the walls of paradis, and that they possess the capability to enslave or flatten the world whenever they want. The attack on paradis was portrayed to them as a mission to retrieve the founder to eliminate the threat of the rumbling and save the world. Only the partial truth because Marley were after the resources on the island too of course, but that obviously wasn't included in the propaganda.

Penguinluver1431 wrote: If given the chance they would take up arms themselves and wipe out their "fellow" Eldians rather than their oppressors (I use quotations since I do not consider them true Eldians for being so subservient to their Marleyan overlords). Consider that they would all willingly kill the Walldians and yes, they did in fact deserve what they got. Totally false nonsense. You continue to completely ignore the actual narrative to maintain your delusions. They are subservient to Marley because THEY HAVE NO CHOICE. Ymir, Kruger, Grisha, Zeke and his volunteers' stories makes it totally obvious that any resistance against Marley results in you and your family being killed or turned into titans. And yet they still opposed their oppressors the only way they could (covertly), risking everything to do it.

Not to mention THE LIBERIO CITIZENS LITERALLY TOOK UP ARMS AGAINST THEIR OPPRESSORS IN CHAPTER 125.

Penguinluver1431 wrote:

And you're right, I still deny peace is possible. Because it's not. This team-up is a fantasy that will either fail and force them to realize that the world is governed by survival of the fittest, or it will completely destroy the writing quality of the narrative more than it already has (name ONE truly great chapter since the RtS arc, I dare you) since it would fall into the same trap as other Japanese manga...the power of friendship saving the world, or everyone being redeemable no matter how many hundreds of thousands they kill (and unlike the Warriors, Eren is justifiable in his actions). You deny it's possible because you think everything in the story that you personally don't like is impossible and claim that everything that displeases you is bad writing.

Nice to see you out yourself as one of those people who stopped liking the series after the existence of Marley was revealed. That tells a lot about what you're here for. A lot of people like you got annoyed when humanity rather than titans were shown to be the true enemy. Because now you have to actually think about the enemy as individuals with their own unique motivations and challenges in life beyond 'uniform mindless titans want to eat everyone' which you clearly can't handle. You refuse to see the enemy as people because you're pining for the good old days when the enemies were all the same mindless titans and everything was easy. You're so deep in this mindset that you've mentally blocked out all the people from outside the walls that oppose Marley and are pretending they don't exist.

Penguinluver1431 wrote:

But you're wrong, Hange wanted their island to 'do nothing' to protect themselves, choosing to "meet with" Marley and convince them they were no threat, ignoring the fact they are the ultimate evil responsible for Eldian persecution.

The worst case scenario is actually the "Scorching Earth" operation that the world is launching against Paradis, hence why the Rumbling is not only a necessity but preferable. Just read chapter 107 and keep telling yourself the plan was 'do nothing and let them kill us'. It obviously isn't and never was.

And yes the worst case scenario for Paradis is Paradis being destroyed, but that can never happen while Eren or one of the other protagonist controls the founder. So the scenario cannot occur unless the founder is lost, just like I said.