Talk:Frieda Reiss

Deceased?
According to chapter 62, we don't know for sure if she got killed or not, I think it is a bit early to affirm she is dead. Xinomorph (talk) 06:52, October 9, 2014 (UTC)

She is deceased. It says that bandits massacred the entire Reiss family, save for Lod and Historia. Gourgeist (talk) 07:01, October 9, 2014 (UTC)

Yes, that's what Hangi says. That information was gathered by Survey Corps disguised as farmers, maybe hearing rumors. We also know that those rumors weren't 100% true, because it was also said that the church was burned by bandits, and we know it wasn't that way. I mean, those were probably rumors heard by those Survey Corps members gathering information. We don't know for sure if Frieda is actually dead, that is what it is said around. Xinomorph (talk) 07:17, October 9, 2014 (UTC)

Hange suggested foul play, meaning Titans might have been involved, not that she didn't trust the word handed down. Also, the report came from Erwin, not any of the farmers. If you're reading fan scanlations, I suggest here as a reliable source for the official English translation of the scene. Gourgeist (talk) 07:28, October 9, 2014 (UTC)

I read it from that page. But it doesn't matter if Hange trusts the source of information, or if that source is Erwin or not. The thing is, that we know (by Eren's memories) that some of that information was wrong. Those were not bandits, it was Grisha the one doing it. We can't take that information as the safe truth, because nobody in the story seems to be omniscient. I believe she died, but we can't affirm it, we didn't see her dying or dead in the memories, neither we saw a confirmation from a witness (like Lod Reiss), all we have is the information gathered by Erwin's team that can be wrong, as we know that part of that information is actually wrong. Xinomorph (talk) 22:26, October 9, 2014 (UTC)
 * The theory about Titan Shifters passing down the abilities of the wielder to any Titan if it eats them has already been proved by Hange (and by clear evidence shown in the story). Hange even theorized if that's why Reiner threw the Titans at Eren when they were escaping, because that would have meant another Titan could absorb Eren's powers. We've been demonstrated that Ymir (and as she mentioned it), returned to her human form after eating another Shifter: Marcel.
 * From the looks of it, and since Eren remembered things from Grisha's perspective (you know it's him, because you see how he's injecting Eren in "first person cam"), it's now obvious that memories of the previous owner of the Power get passed to the new user. Eren has memories of Frieda brushing her hair, despite never having seen her in his life. The only explanation for this is that Frieda was either a Titan Shifter herself or had a power related to Titans and Grisha absorbed them, and then he was eaten by Eren.  h fc 2 X  23:12, October 9, 2014 (UTC)
 * I would say that Frieda was the Titan being fought in that flashback, since the scene focuses on her intense expression prior to showing the female Historia-ish Titan. She is the oldest female present in the scene, and seems to have been the focus of Grisha's attention initially. --Harostar (talk) 23:48, October 9, 2014 (UTC)


 * hfc2X is right.Tthe point seems to be Frieda's power to alter memories, which could be the "Coordinate" Eren holds now. It is important to note that Eren perceived the hairbrushing scene with Frieda's eyes apparently (the mirror showed no other person), so it seems possible that Eren got Frieda's memories. That suggests she died, either at the hands of Eren later on or Grisha killed her prior to being eaten by his son. Historia's memories show Frieda from her (Historia's) own eyes. I also got the impression that the Titan in the flashback was Historia. Another point is that Frieda does indeed look a bit like Eren. If they are related, she perhaps was not eaten by Eren and Grisha, but gave Eren her memories via her "telepathy" for reasons unknown. SnK Rumor Mill Crank (talk) 06:00, October 10, 2014 (UTC)

Regarding the pagename
"Mysterious Woman" is just a placeholder of course and will be replaced, as soon as an actual name is available. NeoSuperior (talk) 11:46, February 8, 2014 (UTC)

Memory Manipulation?
I don't recall her ever having such a power or any evidence towards her, just stating that Historia must forget her. Historia herself only forgot about her in the present because of time fading away memory. I don't see one shred of evidence stating she has a memory manipulation power.

Bentheechidna (talk) 18:00, April 5, 2014 (UTC)
 * Well, memory erasing is in a way memory manipulation. Think of something like the Neuralyzer from MiB.  h fc 2 X  18:17, April 5, 2014 (UTC)

Name
I think it's safe to say we can change this page name to "Frieda Reiss". Gourgeist (talk) 00:42, October 9, 2014 (UTC)