Board Thread:Manga/@comment-25228560-20170402150806/@comment-25228560-20170408012404

CommonSwift wrote: I have a doubt what if Eldian's story as the "evil" nation was all a lie from Marley? a nobleman mentioned something about "slave blood" if the war was just lost and Marley had managed to win the war why would they use such term?

What if Eldian's were slaves of Marley all along, depricted to all other nations as Devils to ensure fear in them and brainwash Eldian's themselvers into submission out of guilt for sins that weren't their own?

What if the first King had started to rebel and tried to give his people a bit of freedom in the Walls while ensuring the Coordinate couldn't be used anymore to break havoc.

What if Marley wants the Coordinate to brainwash the Eldians into submission cause they are starting to get out of their control?

Isn't it curious that the one titan that wasn't seized by Marley is descrived as the one that always moves forward seeking freedom?

Also the thirteen year rule seems quite sketchy, except for Uri we haven't seen anyone get that old so fast could it be that it only applies to the coordinate but Marley made the other shifters believe it applyed to them too to ensure the Shifters couldn't rebel aganist them? it is easier to manipulate children over adults and by changing them often they are securing themselvers an obbedient puppet.

You could argue that Kruger himself wasn't looking so good, but the previous holder might not have clarified that fact and he might have believed Marley's lie or he may have aged from stress.

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It's fun to speculate :) The history of Eldia is that it was a small nation in Marley ruled world until Ymir became  a Titan. Then Eldians use the power of Titans to become a dominant nation. If you use Titans in warfare as we seen in Paradis it can only be a blood bath so Marley also grew resentful because their lands are now conquered by Eldians. Then Eldians started their genocides and rapes. It was not enough that they subjugated people and also took away their lands but they had to besmirch their identities. This is the same thing Marley is doing now so it is not a long shot that after Ymir some kings thought in this manner too. This prompted the Marleyans to steal Titans and start the war to gain back their decency. But Along the way obviously they too got corrupted with power so that is why they refer to Eldians as "slave blood" after all racism and discrimination can happen on both sides. Marley may resent the fact the power of Titans came to people who were once considered small and "lowly" just like Eldians later on felt they have Titan power so they should well keep on fighting wars and getting territories. There can be bad history on both sides. This does not excuse what Marley is doing now and that Eren should crush their giovernment and military. But this won't solve the fact there is a Titan serum and Zeke can turn people into Titans and that Titans are former people they need to be killed or if there is a serum to bring them back if it is possible. There are some complicated plot points in this story which is good. Eldians may not be innocent obviously but this not mean that Marley has carte blance and do whatever the f they want and subjugate Eldians. At the same time, Eren and others should remember the faults of Paradis in hurting other races and help Marleyans who want out of this bloody cycle. If there can be a dialogue they should have it. It is good to form multinational bonds and secure the world and heal it than just blow the crap out of everything. Also, the ethnic cleansing happened like 1,700 years ago. If there are Marleyans now more so than ever I mean they probably have reproducing for the last millenia. It doesn't mean their numbers weren't down once. And it doesn't excuse them from using Eldians in a bad way and treating Zeke and others as pawns.

The show is pointing a double edged sword. Who knows as Junior mentioned maybe Eren doesn't even think he is Eldian and just feels they are people of Paradis and not necessarily subjects of Ymir. Also, that can be true on the ground there are mixed blood in Paradis so that can actually mean other races can become well Titans - it can be possible. Who knows what if there are other Titans than the 9, now 8, of Ymir. That would be awesome and give another dimension to the show. Though the show started with a bang it;s becoming kinda slow and has not resolved much. I like the mystery but too much of it is becoming annoying that's all.