User talk:Bentheechidna

Spoiler Policy
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The spoiler policy says once it is available online in English. It is in fact available online in English at onemanga.me

http://www.onemanga.me/shingeki_no_kyojin/50/2/

Bentheechidna (talk) 13:13, October 5, 2013 (UTC)

Antagonists and Villains
Hello there! Just chiming in here, to explain my tweaking of your edits. It sounds like you're mistaking "antagonist" for "villain", as the two terms can be used interchangeably.....but don't always mean the same thing. A villain is evil, while the term antagonist refers to a character that helps to drive the story along through their opposition of the protagonist. Reiner, Bertolt, and Annie are antagonists for what seems to be the first half of the series, in that they represent the primary force the cast are struggling against. Now we've got a completely new threat and goal for the heroes, since those three were exposed and defeated. But I do agree that reading them as villains would be a shallow reading of their characters, as they're clearly more complex than that.

Harostar (talk) 17:21, March 12, 2014 (UTC)

I know that antagonist and villain aren't the same and prefer to keep them separate, remembering that a villain is someone whom commits vile deeds. My problem is that they're referred to as 'major' antagonists following their reveal, even though Bertholdt and Reiner themselves are only known as antagonists for about 8 chapters before being taken out of the spotlight and being helped by Ymir who is not for or against the main protagonists.

On top of that my personal interpretation is that everyone in the top 10 of the 104th plus Armin, Ymir, Levi, Hanji, and Erwin minus Marco are the protagonists; the Shiganshina Trio are the main protagonists, the rest of the 104th we know minus Marco are the secondary protagonists (except maybe Ymir, who could be secondary if she gets more development but is tertiary otherwise, since she serves to aid Historia's character development and aid Bertholdt and Reiner), with the scouting legion trio of Erwin, Hanji, and Levi as tertiary characters being the mentors to Jean, Armin, and Mikasa respectively.

Bentheechidna (talk) 20:46, March 12, 2014 (UTC)

Well, they are major antagonists. The threat looming for the first 50 chapters of the series was them, and once they were defeated we got an entirely new threat and direction for the series. We simply didn't know until recently that it was them, as finding them out was part of what drove the characters. --Harostar (talk) 21:06, March 12, 2014 (UTC)