Board Thread:Theories/@comment-26624146-20170608143408/@comment-32409015-20170701181129

The Duck Titan wrote: They were all brainwashed at a young age to do Marley's bidding. Take Annie yes she killed a lot of people but like u said it's more self-defence then going out of her way to kill. They may have been gruesome but she showed remorse specifically with Armin. If she was intent on killing she would have killed Armin then and there. There's also the fact she was determined to return to homeland and go to her dad by the looks of it so she had her own reasoning to do what she did.

With Marcos death, they all were shown to be upset and regretted what they did but they had no choice to otherwise they would be exposed and their mission over. With Reiner he's always shown the conflict in his thoughts and actions and I think he knows that Paradis isn't evil in any way there just surviving like Marley there both victims of this long conflict and just want it to end.

For both Reiner and Bertholt when destroying the gates the first time was before they met everyone and learned what the people of Paradise were like, the second time yes they showed no mercy afterwards but showed they regretted in later on as shown in the Anime.

In my view there not evil just following orders as they have to opinions aside they may agree or disagree with what they need to do but it's their duty to fulfil out these orders to the end. As for how they will die, I can imagine during the next confrontation mainly between Eren and Reiner there will be some conflict mentally on if Reiner will fight Eren or help him set everyone free both Marley and Paradise. He may die simply during conflict I doubt his power will get transferred.

As for Zeke however i think he will either transfer his powers to a new person so they wouldn't be able to use all the beast titan powers as t, ere not royal blood or perhaps he will duel with Eren as although Zeke is stronger Eren can use the coordinate once they come into contact which should even out the fight. I think i dual between essentially the last members of the Yeager family would be quite fitting. I don't think that Annie was brainwashed because in chapter 17 she said to Eren and Reiner that  their ideals had nothing to do with reality (=Reiner was very loyal to Marley. Eren had ideals against Titans.) and she said that  her father forced to train and become a warrior. She said  in chapter 31 that she  prioritized her own interest above other', she compared herself to the other trainees. She thought she was rotten and clearly was a bad person. She also said that she was a normal person. She also said to Eren and Armin that she failed to become a warrior. So it seems to me she has no hatred to the Paradise Eldians and it seems to me she doesn't consider them as demons. It seems to me she did what she did because she only wanted her father to stay alive and to come back home.

Also, Annie is a criminal, but before definitively judging her character, I would like to know who  her father is. I mean he forced his own girl to become a warrior. And we didn't have a clear look at his face in the manga. So, I think he is an important character in the show. Also he's not like people like Gabi's parents or Karina Braun, because he said what he did was wrong. So, maybe he is a restorationist who wanted Annie to spy into the Marleyan government, as Grishka did to Zeke and that he later changed his mind and decided to prioriticize Annie's safety above everything else. Also, maybe Annie's father is related to the Owl (=Eren Krueger). I don't know. Time will tell...

Concerning current older Reiner, I do hope that he will work to end this absurd war. I would like him to help Falco to end this war. It would be a good ending for him.