Board Thread:Manga/@comment-27321453-20200408113657/@comment-44328804-20200526190708

Ah, i see now. But, if this were the case, why would he push Mikasa and Armin away from him in such a manner? He even told Louise to throw Mikasa's scarf away. From what you've wrote it doesn't seem to me like you think that his endgame requires him getting sacrificed (i agree with you, Code Geass route is BS). If this was really what he wanted to do, there would be no need for him to cut ties with them. If his plan was just making Paradis and Marley talk, then all this drama was unnecessary.

Not to mention that the whole "talking" thing is Armin's character arc, not Eren's. It would be redundant for Isayama to give these 2 the same mindset and it would render their ideological arguments meaningless and cheap drama.

Also, it seems like you don't remember it, but Marley's treatment of Eldians is far better than that of other countries. Marley alone isn't the problem. Just a fraction of it. And Eren's actions up to now show how little self-restraint he has. He murdered innocents in Liberio and the Yeagerists did the same as well. To the rest of the world, the words of a mass-murderer who casually destroyed the walls and released the colossal titans, even if he was bluffing at the time, should mean nothing. Now that they know how real the threat of Paradis is, they would surely try to develop weapons to annihilate them all.

As such, genociding the entire world is the most effective way to eliminate the danger of the people of Paradis being wiped out from the face of the earth in a war against the world. Does it eliminate violence completely? No. It doesn't. Not at all. But does it matter? No. Because, in the end, as long as it's simply the paradisians who exist, even if a war were to break to out, it would only be between them. Which means that in the end paradisians will still be standing. Why he pushed them away is one of the many ques we still need answered from him. But from what I can tell, he wanted to push them into the right mindsets, as he wanted to free Mikasa from the slave bond (hence the scarf thing too), and he needed to snap Armin out of his pacificist mindset too, which was detrimental in this case in all honesty. On that note, look how Armin is pushing himself into a fighting attitude now. He might realize soon that just talking was never an option, and snap out of his pacifism, and then Eren might show to be more open to talks like he hopes. But all in all, he may had cut ties to keep them away from tough choices that they clearly wouldn't want to make.

I never forgot how Marley treated their eldians better, but they're also the ones pushing the propaganda against them, and THEN, they called for an unjust attack against the island and falsely called Eren a "rebel against peace". Not sure if you forgot that, but Eren wasn't the bad guy there, and his "lack of self-restraint" is an imaginary issue. What was he supposed to do? Sorry to say, but it sounds like you're bordering on another thing his unreasonable haters dwelled on: the imaginary argument of other options, which there weren't any, yet they go on saying they were and it was proven time and time again there wasn't AT ALL.

Eren's bluff with the rumbling can work, as he can prove that if he says he will "destroy the world" but then show the desire and restraint not to when he could've, that's an effective way to prove to the world that he isn't the devil. A show of force like that can work, and its the only way to really show the propaganda is false since they ate it up without considering it can be false. Even if he seemed he validated the threat at first, he didn't have a choice with how he was backed into a corner. So if he makes it look like its true only to show it isn't, that can be very persuasive.

Its ur call to believe what you think the best option is. You want to believe it is genocide? Go right ahead, I won't think anything bad of you lol but all the evidence really points to my theory more than yours. I'm not saying I will turn out right completely, as I haven't already, but most who heard my arguement realized I wasn't leaping at all, and the few who called me along the lines of a "delusional Eren fanboy" didn't necessarily have good arguments either. But either way, you were more reasonable than most who think along the same lines as you, so I have no issue you debating this with me for the sake of conversation. Here's hoping we can continue this soon next month (in a week or so) with the series HOPEFULLY returning after it went on hiatus this month, but I didn't hear anything yet about that but keeping my fingers crossed.