User talk:Miskos3

Hola
Hey Misk! Welcome to the wiki!

We could use a helping hand with manga/anime images so knock yourself out. In terms of licencing, we don't have a FUR template (yet), so for the time being, please use the 'Screenshot' template for the anime images and 'Fairuse' template for the manga images. I'll probably make a FUR template, some time later during the week and I'll let you know the minute I do so. You can make an image gallery for any sort of page, just make sure the images are layerd out properly, like http://shingekinokyojin.wikia.com/wiki/Eren_Jaeger/Image_Gallery

Also, we could really use some character portraits to go into infoboxes, for either manga or anime so if you wouldn't mind helping out with that too. Replacing poor images is great, try to make them png. If you wish to categorize images, you may.

I should really write an image guidline and I will do so VERY soon. So please bare with me.

Anymore questions, feel free to ask but if that's all... have a nice day!

Arcs and the Geezer
Hey,

Well, with the arcs, start from Shiganshina Arc and follow the order from their by navigating through the arc infobox. You should get up to Clash of the Titans arc or something like that. The only reason I haven't updated the pages as of yet is cause I'm just too lazy I haven't made the list yet.

Just call him Verman, cause that's how Werman would be pronounced. Were you looking to make the page? If not, I'll do it.

Have a nice day!

Sounds good, I'll get to making it now, you upload the image whenever you're done or feel like it.

XDDDDD Thanks mate. XGlass Reflection (talk) 17:59, June 9, 2013 (UTC)

Profile thingiemagig
Well, I'd agree with you on that.

XGlass Reflection (talk) 15:27, June 10, 2013 (UTC)

Alright, I just figured that it would be easier navigating through the Wikia if it was structured that way, for example: See Episodes Category (Helps to see which episode is which since we're naming them by Title and Not Episode #)

I also thought that you could add the episode images in the summary like how you did for the layout of Episode 8 instead... Also the pictures that you upload, would still be used on this page Episode List.

Then again, if you Admin. says so and you still feel the way you do, you can go ahead and revert the page as to how it once was... Sorry for the trouble.

Ezgoingboi27 (talk) 01:23, June 12, 2013 (UTC)

Ok, Sorry.

Vanihba2000 (talk) 11:11, July 8, 2013 (UTC)

Promotion
So I feel like you've earned enough trust not to mention you're a frequent contributor so you've been promoted to roll back and chat moderator.

Hi Yourself.
Sorry for the late reply, you were right, it's a Bonus Magazine Spread, don't know which in particular though. http://www.crunchyroll.com/anime-news/2013/07/10-1/attack-on-titan-opening-single-debuts-in-second-place-in-daily-sales-chart

Ezgoingboi27 Talk | 06:14, July 16, 2013 (UTC)

Regarding the "rules" for the talk pages
I noticed a little cosmetic mistake. In the "rules of the talk section" there is a right parenthesis missing. It looks like that right now:

Put it under a new heading for a new topic (e.g. "Titan shifting."

I know it isn't a big matter, but I try to improve this wikia as good as I can.

NeoSuperior (talk) 23:08, July 26, 2013 (UTC)

Johnsquare21 (talk) 19:16, July 28, 2013 (UTC)somewhere in tumblr.. also the pixis random fact that i will share.

Reporting the Vandals
I really appreciate you pointing out the ringleaders of all the major vandalism these days. It makes my job (of punishing them) easier and in this eternal war, it means a lot to me and XGlass. Thanks for all you hard work and continue to keep watch over us!

Jo4n (talk) 07:19, August 5, 2013 (UTC)

I apologize for not discussing the changes I had made to Eren's page before actually going ahead and making those changes. The reason why I had changed the names in the first place was because I had been told numerous times before that Jaeger is the correct variation of Eren's last name. I have been informed on multiple occasions that Yeager is the American transcription of the German surname Jaeger. Though, after seeing the manga, I realize that I was wrong and Yeager is indeed the correct surname. I once again apologize for making ignorant changes without doing my research. Ouo (talk) 03:42, August 12, 2013 (UTC)

Re: About images
I added the licensing but I forgot to rename the image, You can rename whatever you want. MrGenial11 (talk) 14:41, August 14, 2013 (UTC)

Re:Character
Yeah, if you can find the name, then creating a page is totally fine. I'll try looking too, but I cannot remember what he looks like!

By the way, were you talking about the SnK guidebook that we get everybody's stats from? Maybe. We find proof and then we can work, let's go!

Jo4n (talk) 09:08, August 17, 2013 (UTC)

I think that is plenty of evidence. Type away. By the way, it always interesting to find out the name of these people so thanks for going that extra mile, you and Fyerbrand both!

Jo4n (talk) 09:30, August 17, 2013 (UTC)

Images
Hey.

So I was thinking of making a character page for all the characters in the series. I have the template made but I need all the character images resized to 400 x 400, could you help me out please? XGlass Reflection (talk) 15:57, August 20, 2013 (UTC)

Collapsing stuff
Sorry for my insistence, but I'd like an admin to give me a hand on the collapsible stuff thing. Please read this message I left on XGlass' page (I think he's absent for the moment?). Thanks in advance.  h fc 2 X  04:25, August 27, 2013 (UTC)

Recent Changes
Hey I wanted to know about the recent changes page when i edit something or notice something gets edited there a green or red number with the amout of bytes that has i was wondering what that meant im kinda new to te whole wiki editing but so far im having a blast so if you know or can lead me to someone that does that would be great thanks.

Clutch299 (talk) 19:38, August 27, 2013 (UTC)

Stuff
hi miskos3 i see that you are a Attack on titan fan ...... we both are.we just love Attack on Titan...

Soundtrack
Hey im trying to find this one song in the soundtrack but im having no luck its when the female titan kills a squad in episode 18 i cant remember who the squad was but i know the female titan was spining some guy around with his wire if you could help me find the name it would be a big help.

Masters of Animanga promotion
Hello! I am Bereisgreat and I'm here to let you know that Wikia has launched a pretty exciting animanga project that might spark the interest of your community! The project in question is the Collaborative Writing Project with the Masters of Animanga and is an event stretching from September 3rd to the 27th, where users are invited to collaborate with some big names in the animanga business to create three short stories based around the vampire genre, samurai genre and girls genre. Animanga Wikia users can work together with Japanese professional mangaka, illustrators and producers to create a paragraph-to-paragraph story that will be highlighted on Wikia and eventually also on New York Comic-Con! Now isn't that great?!

Now, Herald of meridian and I are spreading the word for them and requesting some major animanga Wikis to promote the project to its community. Can I ask you to place this image on both the main page and the Community-corner and have it linked to the MOA blog post that I linked earlier? We would also like a blog post or a forum post (whatever is most popular over here) to get a conversation started on the Wiki. If I could leave that in your hands, that'd be great, unless of course you would like me to reach out to this Wiki's users. Both these things would be sufficient and ideal to get the word out and create some attention for the project, which is very much appreciated. Also, are there any particular users you are aware of that would be interested in writing a story like this, since I would like to reach out to them personally.

Well, that about wraps it up, thanks and I hope we can put some effort into this!

14:50, August 30, 2013 (UTC)

Thanks Misk! I saw Josh aka MadNation aka XGlassReflection put the image on the main page, so thanks to him as well. I made a quick little post, so I hope to get the word out there on this Wiki. 19:09, August 30, 2013 (UTC)

Frequent vandals
Hey there, these IPs have been vandalizing Auruo's article frequently. Since I cannot deal with them, could you please drop the ban-hammer on them?

 h fc 2 X  05:12, September 2, 2013 (UTC)
 * And another one:
 *  h fc 2 X  05:32, September 2, 2013 (UTC)

I made a mistake
its me silva92 i think i messed up the first reference when i moved a line in this page i hope its fixable.94.249.110.80 01:34, September 3, 2013 (UTC)

Hi, sorry if I'm being dumb or something, but could the "Kanji" section under the characters' information thing be changed to say "Kana", please? "Kanji" are Chinese characters, which I don't think any of the characters have in their names? And "Kana" are the phonetic ones, like Katakana and Hiragana. ((I kind of tried to change one of them but I'm lame lol)) Thanks. Wertyiu102 (talk) 03:13, September 3, 2013 (UTC)

Ability Stats
Awesome job updating and correcting the stats on everyone. I am at a complete loss as to how to do so, but there's also official stats for the Titan Shifters. Don't know if you would like to add those as well, or give me a clue how to add them?

[Scanned and translated here].

Harostar (talk) 04:51, September 4, 2013 (UTC)

Re: Spoiler Policy
I'm terribly sorry. I forgot completely about the spoiler policy.

But anyways, I just wanted to know if there was somebody able to read chinese, because when the chapter comes out translated (at least in japanese), I would get the answer anyways...  h fc 2 X  22:40, September 5, 2013 (UTC)
 * The chapter came out translated already and I provided a link, but I don't know if it's right to put it here.  h fc 2 X  05:46, September 6, 2013 (UTC)

Resemblance
Been meaning to ask, what do you think about adding in an image comparison to Ymir on Ilses page?Cause chapter 40 has Ymir being pretty much her twin with that short hair.Thought it may back up the whole notion of Ilse being mistaken for her.Fyerbrand (talk) 01:20, September 8, 2013 (UTC)

I'm not good with titles
Not really sure what the general... protocal is on this kinda thing but just letting ya know there was a chap deleting (albeit poorly) a large quanitty of the articles.

http://shingekinokyojin.wikia.com/index.php?limit=50&tagfilter=&title=Special%3AContributions&contribs=user&target=Hackingbastard&namespace=&topOnly=1&year=&month=-1

"Hackingbastard"

I've undone most of their edits but I can't really do much else than that.

Captain Kehole (talk) 08:08, September 8, 2013 (UTC)
 * Just as a recommendation, we need more moderators in this wiki. Not trying to sound selfish, those of us who contribute continuosly by reverting vandalism as well as adding the most info should be promoted as such, to be able to deal with vandals when you're not around. Those that fit the description are and, among others. Just watch the edit logs and judge yourself.  h fc  2 X  08:51, September 8, 2013 (UTC)


 * I'll mention it to xGlass next time I see him. Though I guess there's still a problem, as rollback users cannot block vandals either, they just have a faster way to remove the vandalism from articles. Either way, thanks for reporting, the vandal has been blocked. 10:14, September 8, 2013 (UTC)

New stats
So the first scans of the new guidebook, "Outside", are out. We now have birthdates for the main cast. Do you want to add those to the template for their stats?

http://jeankirschstein.tumblr.com/post/60640515406/if-no-sekai

Eren: 3/30

Mikasa: 2/10

Armin: 11/3

Jean: 4/7

Ymir: 2/7

Christa: 1/15

Sasha: 7/26

Connie: 5/2

Marco: 6/16

Bertholdt: 12/30

Reiner: 8/1

Annie: 3/22

Hanji: 9/5

Levi: 12/25 (pffft!)

Irwin: 10/14

There's another section in the bios for them, but I can't read it to know what it is. But Ymir and all three adults have a "???" in it.

Harostar (talk) 13:42, September 8, 2013 (UTC)
 * Last section is where they come from.  h fc 2 X  11:24, September 9, 2013 (UTC)
 * Ahh, okay. Anything new that we don't know yet? 11:27, September 9, 2013 (UTC)
 * Nothing besides Reiner, Bertholdt and Annie also having their location listed as unknown. Reiner and Bertholdt's section says that they come from a "mountain village at southeast of Wall Maria (?)" and Annie "southeast of Wall Maria (?)".  h fc 2 X  18:47, September 9, 2013 (UTC)
 * I see, thanks a lot! 18:49, September 9, 2013 (UTC)

Should Titan Shifters section on Titans page be revised?
I recognize that each individual Titan Shifter can be taken as a "type" of Titan, but wouldn't it make more sense to put the Titan Shifter as a category under Unusual Titans, and just link it to the main page for Titan Shifters like the rest of the other Titan types? Each Titan Shifter's form seems unique to the host, and it'd make more sense to classify Titan Shifters as a type of Unusual Titan than repeating the same information outlined in the Titan Shifters page for the sake of outlining each unique characteristics per host. I have since merged and rewritten the info on each Titan form onto the main page for the Titan Shifters. I have also outlineed notable Titan Shifters on the Titans page under the classification of Unusual Titans. If you think that these changes are not helpful at all, feel free to revert, but I hope that you consider these changes. DementedP (talk) 11:20, September 9, 2013 (UTC)

Are you guys up for another admin? or not? Pierreanime (talk) 14:42, September 10, 2013 (UTC)

Administratorship
I fear that this may sound stinkingly selfish, but I'd like to know if it's possible to give me admin-status.

The main reason I want this for is to be able to make a bot for the site mainly to batch-rename links, batch-fix typos, fix broken links, and all the functions bots are used for; not to mention my already-stated concern about anonymous users constantly vandalizing some of the articles, a bot would really come in handy for locking said articles so only registered users may edit them. I consider myself to be knowledgeable enough to manage such a tool (I study programming at University).

Other uses I would give to that status would be able to quickly revert multiple vandal edits without having to resort to retype everything to how it was earlier. However, I feel other people are better fit for that job, like, and , like I had mentioned on an earlier post, so I think bureaucrat rights are of higher priority for me (to be able to configure bot's permissions mostly).

I'm sorry if this request feels kinda out of place, and I know that administratorship must be earned, and not asked for, but vandals don't rest, and we need more admins to take care of them at all times.  h fc 2 X  02:11, September 11, 2013 (UTC)

Spoiler Template
Hey, I finally made the spoiler-protection template:

EXAMPLE

I tried to make it as simple as possible to help hiding chunks of articles on a single click. It may also function as a simple warning header too, if no arguments are specified.  h fc 2 X  10:17, September 13, 2013 (UTC)

Rollback Status.
I know it sounds odd for a user to request Rollback status, more so when hey have sub-100 edits. But I would like to be able to help a bit more. More wih Vandalism, or obviously wrong stats. I'm a Admin from a decently popular wiki, too.--The Earth. Supporting the Sky, ~Rain~ 10:26, September 13, 2013 (UTC)

Vandal detected
103.14.63.51 is a bad guy, ban please.

Please delete
Deceased. Stated why in the Talk Page.  h fc 2 X  16:49, September 17, 2013 (UTC)

2 articles for deletion
Hey, there are two articles up for deletion that should go into Blog posts instead of mainspace:
 * Somnititan Theory
 * List of Made-up Theories

 h fc 2 X  17:05, September 18, 2013 (UTC)

Nanaba's gender
Excuse me, but I would like to ask how you know Nanaba's a female and would like a legit source to where it confirms Nanaba's not a male.


 * I believe this has been discussed before. Please refer to Nanaba's talk page for details on the discussion. Also please sign your messages. --DementedP (talk) 20:41, September 18, 2013 (UTC)
 * It's in the manga, in Chapter 40, page 14.  h fc 2 X  21:04, September 18, 2013 (UTC)


 * In other words, you guys don't have a legit source, because even if you refer back to the manga, a handful of people will still assume Nanaba's a male, because of his face structure. And if you haven't noticed, most of the females in SNK have medium to long hair, while Nanaba is the only "female" to have short hair. Not only that, the females in SNK tend to have bigger pupils and longer lashes compared to the males'. If all you have on Nanaba being a female is page 14 of Chapter 40 because of what appears to be breasts, then you're going to need more than that to prove that Nanaba's a female
 * Isayama, the respectful author of SNK, was once asked about Nanaba's gender on his blog and he did not confirm Nanaba's gender. Instead, he left that for the fans to think whatever it is that they want. Though the anime has a female voice actress voicing Nanaba, it does not mean Nanaba's a female. Armin's VA is a woman. What about him? The voice for Nanaba's was not distinct. It either sounded like a young boy or a tomboy. Many women voice men in anime, does that make all the men women?
 * My point here is that I believe that since the author did not confirm the gender, this site shouldn't either (even if wiki is known to not be legit anyhow). There are, unfortunately, a good amount of people who uses wiki as a source, and it's misleading to claim something that was not confirmed by the direct source. Just because you and a handful of people think you know Nanaba's a female, does not make you right. There are many others who also think they know Nanaba is male. So I believe it would be best if you edited Nanaba's gender and just leave it as "N/A".  21:48, September 23, 2013 (UTC)
 * You know, I've been trying to be pretty nice regarding this matter, but this stupid fanwank is getting on my nerves. First of all, if you think Chapter 40 isn't a legit source, then go read other mangas that don't happen to be so non-legit. If it's for the damn pupils and long eyelashes, then I guess we've been wrong all along and Ymir is actually a guy and it's totally okay, since he loves Christa.
 * Armin's voice actor is a girl because Armin happens to be a child, so it doesn't matter. Nanaba on the other hand is an adult person, so it actually matters. We don't take other animes into account here, because that's what other sites are for.
 * If you think fans who take the wiki as a source to claim that something is indeed canon, then you should take my advice and stay away from the goddamn fandom. People is usually so freaking stupid enough not to be able to read Biological Information right, and understand that we take Biological facts into account for the info tables. Nanaba is biologically a woman, so deal with it. We never asked him/her about his/her gender identity, because we don't care about it. Or do we list Reiner as "Gay" because he's gay? No. We list him as "Male", because that's what he biologically is.  h fc 2 X  22:58, September 23, 2013 (UTC)

tl;dr: Till there's a legit proof that she is NOT a female, nothing will change. She has a female VA and feminine appearance in both manga and anime and uses the feminine pronoun watashi. There's nothing to discuss. 12:11, September 24, 2013 (UTC)
 * TL;DR Brienne of Tarth would be subjected to a similar wankery if it wasn't for the fact that A Song of Ice and Fire is far much more specific than Shingeki.  h fc 2 X  19:01, September 24, 2013 (UTC)

Image placement
My bad on Annie's page, I didn't know about that particular rule of formatting the images as I was simply trying to move them in such a way so that the excess text doesn't flood too awkwardly. My apologies for the changes.DementedP (talk) 10:15, September 20, 2013 (UTC)

Deletion

 * And here is " Clean-freak "

plzkthnx.  h fc 2 X  02:04, September 22, 2013 (UTC)

Navboxes
Hey, I was wondering if I could put navigation templates like this one at the bottom of pages:

Thanks. Qazqaz 555  22:08, September 26, 2013 (UTC)

Shadowdarkone1
User:Shadowdarkone1 keeps posting fan fiction on the Titan Shifters page. --Qazqaz 555  02:45, September 28, 2013 (UTC)

They are real from manga. I do not see how they are fake or how DO YOU KNOW they are fake.

That's just sideart created by the author to see what those characters would look like if they were titan shifters. That is not offiial canon. --Qazqaz 555  02:54, September 28, 2013 (UTC)

Then, we should edit and say they are author's art of how they will look when they in Titan forms. Or make different chart for it.

There is no need. This is already stated in each character's trivia section--Qazqaz 555  02:58, September 28, 2013 (UTC)

according to Japanese wikipedia, Dennis Eibringer is actually Boris Khoiruna (voiced by Yuichi Karasuma). So please look into it.
 * No. Boris Feulner (ボリス・フォイルナー) is the guy in charge of the escort mission that later hands the papers to Marlo.  h fc 2 X  17:31, September 30, 2013 (UTC)

@hfc2X are you certain? I looked into Japanese wikipedia RECENTLY and realized that it made a change. At one point it stated Dennis Eibringer as you claimed (Dennis is no longer in the Military Police character list), NOW IT IS changed to Boris Feulner. So go look at the JAPANESE wikipedia again (hopefully you CAN read Japanese), copy and paste the character description into translate tool; I know that the tool is NOT perfect, but your top-down processing ability should be able to deduce what it says. Unless you have 'golden ears' and are VERY familiar with Seiro Ogino's voice he performs with...
 * Well, I was not sure of it anyways, so I checked japanese sites like this for confirmation when I created the article. However, the included a note there as well: 「デニス、ボリスは他作品の声や名前の並び順から推測しています. 違ったらごめんなさい. 」, so it looks like you're right and we will have to change this. Also, please sign your comments with ~ .  h fc 2 X  21:03, October 1, 2013 (UTC)

Deletion reminder
Some articles waiting for your approval :)  h fc 2 X  17:23, September 30, 2013 (UTC)

Characters Statistics
Recently some users have been modifying the characters statistics, like giving them more points, without giving any kind of source. I wanted to know if there is an actual source for the original statistics of characters posted on the wikia, or are they just assumptions of us, users?

If they are assumptions, then the right choice of action to do is delete them until an official source reveals the true character data, I say this because this wikia has a lot of potential to become a very good and professional one, to the level of the Naruto, One Piece or Yu-Gi-Oh! wikias, but for that discipline between users and official sources are a must.

For example, Mikasa's Statistics were modified recently, renaming her extra data and giving two of them 11 of 10 stats, for me, that alone smells suspicious. Kentaru Z (talk) 00:14, October 1, 2013 (UTC)

Image renaming
Please rename these two images to the right name:
 * File:Dennis_anime.png
 * File:Dennis_manga.jpg

The character's name is actually Boris Feulner and I got it wrong (my bad).  h fc 2 X  21:28, October 1, 2013 (UTC)

Changes To Pages
Been on forums and people have been asking for a link regarding Isayamas comment regarding Sasha's Death.

Forgot to add in signature.Fyerbrand (talk) 06:56, October 4, 2013 (UTC)

Sorry about that. I'll keep that in mind next time.

While you've also removed the update on the page of Hannes (About him deceased). A paragraph there suggested something about Eren's ability to control the Titan. Further adding that it was something Annie, Reiner & Berholt might be after. This is not true.

The female Titan already show cased possessing those powers (To control Titans).

Unlike Reiner (As of Chapter 50), she could call the Titans to devour herself and at the end of Chapter 22,  the right flank dying squad member states that "A female type Titan brought a large force of Titans Along..."

user-made character's statistics
Hello, it's me again, this time I again come to report possible user-made stastistics.

Most of Annie's Military Police companions, for example, seems to have statistics, but no source can be found for them.

I have proceed to delete those that seems suspicious and whose source can't be found, if I'm wrong, please undo any change I made. Kentaru Z (talk) 16:10, October 5, 2013 (UTC)

I am the one that posted those originally, and they are not user-made. They come from the latest guidebook, Outside Kou. Give me a few minutes to track down the translated scans of them again. They are, however, official.

--Harostar (talk) 16:36, October 5, 2013 (UTC)

SUCCESS!

It was shared [here] by Calorescence, so I trust that the stats are legit since Calorescene is one of the best sources for translated official info around.

--Harostar (talk) 16:50, October 5, 2013 (UTC)

Glad to see there was a source, thankfully is quite easy to undo a change, even though I still can't believe so many characters have "Level 11" stats... I mean, that level should be reserved for the really, reeeally amazing characters, but if that's the word from the author, then there's nothing we can do.

Anyway, I'm deeply sorry for any trouble I may have caused you. Kentaru Z (talk) 01:47, October 6, 2013 (UTC)

Hello Miskos3, Rico Brzenska statistic template is locked and there a mistake in its stats, rationality should be 11 instead of 10, I don't know how to correct a locked status so I'm informing. Kentaru Z (talk) 15:30, October 9, 2013 (UTC)

Annie's two Abilities are wrongly marked.
Hi, How did you update Annie Leonhartd's abilities? Her Agility & Strategy are 10 not 7. She's had an upper hand on some of the elite members and leaders of the Scouting Legion including: Mikasa, Eren, Erwin, Hanji, Mike Zakarius, Armin and Levi's deceased Special Ops Squad.
 * We don't use assumptions, we use actual sources like this (taken from the official guidebook: Inside). And please sign your comments with ~ .  h fc 2 X  14:17, October 6, 2013 (UTC)

New Search Settings
Hey Miskos3,

I've noticed that you activated the Search_Fix.js in the MediaWiki:Common.js of this wiki. I would recommend you that you change the background color of the new search settings window.

To do so you just have to copy the Search_Fix.js to your wiki and search in it for "background" with Ctrl+F. There should be a "#FFFFFF" what equals the color white. For the Shingeki no Kyojin Wiki would the color black, what is "#000000", match the best way. Afterwards you'll just have to change the "importScriptPage('MediaWiki:Search_Fix.js', 'dantest');" in MediaWiki:Common.js to "importScriptPage('MediaWiki:Search_Fix.js', 'shingekinokyojin');".

That's it. Now it should look like this. Mine is German because I run the German Shingeki no Kyojin Wiki but yours should still be in English.

Best regards, T a i l s 3 2  ✉   21:40, October 7, 2013 (UTC)

Original Soundtrack vandal
This dude keeps on adding links to the full playlist on YouTube. Looks like he got a username and goes by the name. Banhammer?  h fc 2 X  21:00, October 11, 2013 (UTC)

Angry fan wants the banhammer
Some cool stuff left on my Talk Page.

BTW, can you delete that message too? (Mostly because I know we are not allowed to delete Talk Page comments).  h fc 2 X  08:38, October 14, 2013 (UTC)


 * vandals everywhere. Silva-zoldyck (talk) 16:35, October 17, 2013 (UTC)