Board Thread:Manga/@comment-5774380-20160908231942/@comment-28833597-20160911041522

Neetaku wrote: 30325dh wrote: If Isayama is putting it exactly how it is in the real world, if you look at 1800s photos, light hair was still light and dark hair was still dark. Same with everything around in the photos. But just like CaptFredricks said, I'm not completely ruling out what you all are saying. I'm only still not convinced, definitely not about the part of Eren and Zeke being brothers. I do feel now that picture is very likely of their ancestors. Even if the man does have a Grisha hair style, it doesn't mean that's him. People can change their hair of course. I've noticed in animes they like to make ancestors look like the character in question a lot of the time. Isayama likes to make us think one thing then it ends up not being the case. I feel he intended to make us think it's Grisha, which seems to be the popular opinion, but it's going to end up not being him and something along the lines of a relative.

The problem I have with this theory is that it wouldn't make much sense for Grisha to try to tell Eren that humans are still thriving outside the Walls... By showing him pictures of their ancestors. Grisha's explanation to Eren would have to be something along the lines of:

Grisha: "Eren, humans are still alive outside of the Walls, and they are thriving and living refined lives. This picture isn't of them, though, this is a picture of our ancestors. Yes, I know it doesn't make much sense for me to show you a picture of people who were alive a long time ago to try to illustrate my point, but I didn't feel like searching for anything more recent before I came to visit the Walls."

Hahahaha! I did not even think of that! I spit my drink all over! You sir are hilarious xD

This is why I like people to challenge my ideas, to show me things I may have missed. I don't know, currently living relatives? The man in the photo is Grisha but it's another kid? It does look like a husband, wife and child photo but maybe that may not even be their relationship. Yes I do feel Eren and Zeke are related somehow, but brothers? I don't think so. Grisha is too young and Zeke is too old for that. Even with all this non aging Titan stuff. I don't think that'd be a factor in this. That'd be a lot of unnecessary explaining dialogue taking up the chapter.

If he kept that picture Grisha obviously would've known that was his first wife and son. Why would he keep it for no reason if he didn't remember them? Why wouldn't he tell anyone about them? Especially Carla and Eren, that's a pretty major thing to keep from your family, that you had another family before them. If they were other relatives then yeah, no need to go telling everyone about cousin Earl or great aunt Tilly or whatever. Grisha hiding his Titan form I can understand. People knew he came from outside the walls and they'd surely flip and kill him if they knew he was a Titan. Just like they almost did Eren. But something like that? I really don't think so. Especially if he had any idea Zeke, his supposed son, could possibly become an enemy to what he's trying to achieve by passing the task onto Eren. He talked about what he knew of his life to Keith as well, why wouldn't he bring up his family? No one can go that far outside the walls and kill them without dying themselves. I'm assuming they'd be Titan shifters too so they could easily massacre the survey corps. They had no way of fighting Titans effectively back then especially outside the walls. So if not to protect them, why hide their existence? Especially from Carla, of all people. It's not like she was going to go out there to kill them or let someone know to go track them down. Grisha earned the wall dwellers trust. So what'd be the point of any of that? There is none.

Ah! I forgot as well. Grisha also had more things in that desk. We only saw one thing out of there. Maybe they are some thing like great grandparents or farther back but he also has recent photos in there too. Perhaps to show Eren that humanity is thriving and here's the proof that they've been out there even after humanity was supposedly wiped out. We only saw ONE thing out of that desk and we also saw there were more hidden documents. Who's to also say that we didn't hear all of what Grisha wrote on the back of that photo?