Talk:Annie Leonhart

Spoiler
Think its rather poor to reveal a spoiler like that she is a titan in the opening line... some merit needs to go into keeping some of the later story details hidden or atlease not at the top of the page. 184.90.183.183 10:30, August 20, 2013 (UTC)

No, the main page of the wiki clearly states that it contains heavy spoilers. Her being a Titan Shifter is a major part of her character so I don't see a reason not to include it. 10:37, August 20, 2013 (UTC)

I'm here from google, so I didn't saw main page. There should be only hidden spoilers...

94.251.242.74 20:43, September 7, 2013 (UTC)

You're a fool to believe a wiki page is spoiler free. Some awesome guy

Funny how, after watching the first season of the anime series, I was trivially curious as to why this character's name was spelt "Leonhart" instead of "Lionheart" (yes, it was that trivial). I, then, went on google and found this page, and casually had two of the currently hidden antagonists of the series be unveiled to me by the character summary at the very top of the page. Man, if only there was a way to hide information that could be seen as spoilers through some sort of "Click here" or "Hover your mouse over this area" feature (or, hell, just use coloured text) instead of just telling people that type of information without any sort of warning besides the tiny little red warning on the top of the page (which a lot of people - like me - will probably not see prior to being spoilt).

I apologize for the sarcasm, but I feel it's a good way to summarize my situation. I don't mean to offend, but please rethink your anti-spoilers policy on this website. I'm now simply not going back to read that page, and probably no other pages from this wiki, as a result. I'm going to sound sensationalistic, but how many readers who - like me - do you think aren't going to return to this website because they know they could get easily spoilt? People who didn't read the manga, but watched the series and were interested in a given aspect of a given character, and came here to read more about something that may have been hidden or obtuse in the main series or whatever. These people could've become regular readers of this wiki, or even regular editors. Going with the Caveat Emptor approach does nothing for this website's community but restrict it to people who have read the manga. 92.36.156.5 19:23, August 25, 2015 (UTC)Disappointed Passerby


 * I'm sorry of you got spoiled. I'm aware of this problem and we have discussed it several times, but it's something difficult to deal with. The reason is that our core priority is the manga, the anime is just one of numerous derivative products, and it is two years outdated, so we can't keep the articles filled only with that info. Hiding the information from the manga as you suggest would result in articles with "spots" here and there and many more entire articles completely blanked. Moreover, this situation with the spoilers is not exclusive from this Wiki, the whole Wikia network functions in the same way. As encyclopedias, our goal is to provide the most recent, complete and accurate information from the series, so if someone doesn't want to get spoiled, they should either be up to date with the manga; read the articles trying to avoid the spoilers; or simply do not read them. We have red spoiler alerts at the top of each article warning of this situation. I'm going to propose to the community another type of spoiler warning more effective, but the articles themselves will still be containing spoilers, and the reader should understand that if they ignore the warning and browse through the Wiki, it will be at their own risk of getting spoiled.--Manuel de la Fuente (talk) 04:08, August 26, 2015 (UTC)

Stats
Seriously? "Sexy" stat? Could we grow up a tiny bit

Tell that to the authors of the Shingeki no Kyojin INSIDE guidebook as we haven't made these stats up, they come from official sources. Also, next time, sign your posts with four ~ so we know who is talking. 16:49, October 13, 2013 (UTC)

Surname
I thought Annie's last name was spelt "Leonhardt" Is the current one the correct? If so why wasn't that one used from the start o.o

122.62.65.37 00:20, November 6, 2013 (UTC)anon
 * Because both have been used in official material, but we had a discussion some time ago, and agreed that we will use the names from the official english version manga.  h fc 2 X  00:48, November 6, 2013 (UTC)

Fighting style
Her fighting style seems based on Muay Thai. Though, I don't know of throws being used in Muay Thai. 99.103.46.68 11:39, March 26, 2014 (UTC)

Anime Cameo
I don't know where to put this suggestion honestly, so I guess I'll just put it in the forums.

Anyway, I would like to suggest an edit in the Annie Leonhart article, in the trivia section to add another fact thingy.

So I was watching episode 2 of the anime again, to check for the cameo of Reiner and Bertholt, but I also found another cameo, in which you can see young Annie. She can be seen receiving bread from a soldier after Eren wakes up from a dream where he met his dad.

Since I don't have an account, I cannot attach an image. However, hopefully one of you helpful wikia users can review the episode and see for yourselves.

Thanks.

That is already included in her Story section, here. 14:15, April 13, 2014 (UTC)

Abilities
I rewatched episode 21 and I concluded that the Female Type Titan possessed the same ability the Armored Titan does: Enhanced speed. She rushes at incredibly high speed when she is about to kill Petra. This is the description the Armored Titan has for this ability:

"Enhanced Speed: During the battle in the Shiganshina District, Reiner in his Titan form demonstrated enough speed to quickly cross the gap to the inner gate of Wall Maria preventing cannons from accurately firing at him. While fully armored his speed is noted to be much slower, however, Reiner has shown that he can choose to shed certain areas of his armor, such as joints located at the back of his legs, boosting his overall speed. This tactic was used several times by him successfully during his fight against Eren’s Titan form. However, the Armored Titan form is more suited for physical combat, and performs less well in running large distances seeing as how the Survey Corp were able to reach him via horseback after leaving the Forest of Giant Trees."

Given we only see the Armored Titan rushing at high speed once in the Anime (and then in the Manga afterwards) I would say Annie qualifies to be noted with this ability too? Taiki150 (talk) 22:22, April 15, 2014 (UTC)
 * I think it doesn't qualify as a "special ability". They simply run, and that's not an unusual trait among Titans. The only big difference would be that Reiner and Annie are aware about what they do.  h fc 2 X  07:08, April 16, 2014 (UTC)


 * Given that according to you this is is just simply running and not an unusual trait I figure that this ability should be removed from Reiner's page?


 * And that's not quite accurate, there is a clear distinction between the way the Female Titan and Armored Titan rushed (or ran) compared to ordinary Titans. While Titans are fast, we haven't seen any other Titans rush at that speed so far in the anime (and probably also in the manga).  Taiki150 (talk) 16:53, April 16, 2014 (UTC)
 * That's why I said that Reiner and Annie are aware of what they do. Normal Titans move "automatically", because they are in a dream-like state of consciousness, while Titan Shifters (except Eren) are always fully "awake" and aware of their actions. That's why they display different behaviors, and running at high speeds qualifies more as a behavior than an ability (unless you count Reiner's "armor shedding" ability which lets him move faster).  h fc 2 X  21:25, April 16, 2014 (UTC)


 * Ah, so what it all comes down to is that Reiner's "enhanced" movement speed ability / technique should actually be called something more fitting and less confusing, like "armor shedding" maybe? Enhanced Speed is way too broad of a title for an ability. Annie enhanced her speed in that scene too, so I thought she could have this ability noted, but it seems Reiner sheds his parts which makes it more of a real ability. Taiki150 (talk) 00:19, April 17, 2014 (UTC)

Goodbye, Wall Sina
The visual novel has not yet received a full script-style translation, but a summary with some translated parts has become available to English-speaking fans.

http://plain-dude.tumblr.com/post/86014468400/summary-of-annies-vn-goodbye-wall-sina

We learn a bit more about the society within Wall Sina, particularly illegal drugs. We also learn a bit more about the relationship between Annie and Hitch, as well as Annie and her father. We get confirmation that Annie can do partial Titan transformations, and see a bit more of how regeneration in human form works. We also get confirmation that Annie's childhood training was for the purpose of her eventual mission. Nothing earth-shattering, but still a few interesting tidbits.

Harostar (talk) 08:55, May 19, 2014 (UTC)

I never read this, that's really cool. Gurgatory (talk) 08:03, July 13, 2014 (UTC)

My Thoughts
Annie's probably my favorite character in Attack on Titan. She made a great villain. Copper5 (talk) 12:36, June 5, 2014 (UTC) Copper5

What does this have to do with helping the wikia, make a forum for stuff like this please. Munchvtec (talk) 11:46, June 6, 2014 (UTC)

Revision 46787 Question
Why was I told to "Stop it" in my previous revision ( 46787) ?

I would like a clear reason, seeing how I didn't intend it to be vandalism, but an addition, in order to contribute to the Wiki.

JeanLove (talk) 00:37, July 13, 2014 (UTC)

I already told you before and I assumed you read what I said but I guess not. There is no confirmation or even any hints that the corpse Annie was apologizing to was Mina. Don't get fanon mixed with canon. If it isn't completely confirmed, it doesn't belong here on this Wikia unless there are extensive hints and the such. Gurgatory (talk) 02:00, July 13, 2014 (UTC)
 * For future reference, the corpse was of a girl named Ruth D. Klein, according to Annie's VN. So, it's actually confirmed it isn't Mina or anyone else.  h fc 2 X  05:39, July 13, 2014 (UTC)


 * Can't say I'm not disappointed but there ya go Gurgatory (talk) 08:01, July 13, 2014 (UTC)


 * Sorry for the revision then, I got my sources and references mixed up. Thanks for making it clear.


 * JeanLove (talk) 20:27, July 13, 2014 (UTC)

According to a newer post, an update was made and the body is now unidentifiable again. So should we change that or leave it as it is? EternalLocket (talk) 02:43, March 25, 2015 (UTC)


 * I'm not sure if these graphic novels could be considered canon anyway. Manuel de la Fuente (talk) 16:40, March 25, 2015 (UTC)

Female Titan Arc Killing Spree
How many soldiers - both on- and off-screen (anime) or explained explicitly stated in the manga - did Annie kill in her Titan Form exactly, and why so brutally? - BlitzGundam (talk) 05:26, May 15, 2015 (UTC)