Board Thread:Manga/@comment-27321453-20200308161511/@comment-4383890-20200309223518

TKGriffiths wrote: Penguinluver1431 wrote:

And why is it people think that those of us who support the Rumbling would be okay with real world genocide? They're not the same thing. And in terms of the SnK world, peace talks were never going to work. That was Hange and Armin living in a dream world where everyone is happy and singing songs together and no one hates anyone, which is of course not how it is. And since everyone else WAS going for "do nothing to defend yourself" then the last remaining option for Eren is "genocide", though considering what the world has put him and his people through, it's not as if they don't deserve it. Those Liberio citizens were as involved in the attack on Paradis as the Paradis civilians were in the attack on Liberio - that is, not at all.

It's crazy that you continue to deny that people on both sides can get along peacefully despite this chapter being dedicated to exactly that. The entire message of this chapter is that the similarities of the people on both sides far outweigh the differences and that peace IS possible once people start to actually communicate.

Nobody is going for 'do nothing to defend themselves'. The plan everyone agreed on was to use a mini rumbling to destroy the enemy's military capability and render them incapable of harming Paradis Island. And then at the end of his life Eren would pass on the founder and it would continue to defend Paradis indefinitely. This plan is still possible if Eren comes back onside or the founder is inherited by one of the protagonists.

In the chapter they're talking about the worst case scenario where the founder falls into enemy hands, or Eren is killed and the founder is lost to a random baby. Except for the fact that Liberio citizens knew the truth about Marley's crimes against Paradis and supported them the whole way. If given the chance they would take up arms themselves and wipe out their "fellow" Eldians rather than their oppressors (I use quotations since I do not consider them true Eldians for being so subservient to their Marleyan overlords). Consider that they would all willingly kill the Walldians and yes, they did in fact deserve what they got.

And you're right, I still deny peace is possible. Because it's not. This team-up is a fantasy that will either fail and force them to realize that the world is governed by survival of the fittest, or it will completely destroy the writing quality of the narrative more than it already has (name ONE truly great chapter since the RtS arc, I dare you) since it would fall into the same trap as other Japanese manga...the power of friendship saving the world, or everyone being redeemable no matter how many hundreds of thousands they kill (and unlike the Warriors, Eren is justifiable in his actions).

But you're wrong, Hange wanted their island to 'do nothing' to protect themselves, choosing to "meet with" Marley and convince them they were no threat, ignoring the fact they are the ultimate evil responsible for Eldian persecution.

The worst case scenario is actually the "Scorching Earth" operation that the world is launching against Paradis, hence why the Rumbling is not only a necessity but preferable.