Board Thread:Manga/@comment-27821571-20161024163903/@comment-8458738-20170921161949

LoneWolf336 wrote: I agree. Eren was dead set on escaping the walls and Grisha seems to go off of that but it still doesnt seem right. Naturally as a father Id want my son to achieve what he wants but Grisha kinda will always be in the realm of the manipulator due to his upbringing of Zeke. As to whether he mainuplated Eren is up for debate but Zeke defintely sees it that way which is probably which Eren and Zeke's relationship is the most thing to look forward to. I don't think Grisha manipulated Eren, because there was a lot of things that did not appear what it looked like. However I guess it is up to debate whether being the case, until further discussion between Eren and Zeke.