Board Thread:Manga/@comment-34196931-20190708230504/@comment-35822279-20190723211348

Cheng The Nerd wrote: Freeman1378 wrote: Cheng The Nerd wrote: Freeman1378 wrote: @ Cheng The Nerd. I think it is a genuine declaration of freedom from one of three characters (Eren, Falco, or Gabi) that signifies the conflict has been resolved so the next generation can live in a brighter world. I really think that's what is going to happen based off that panel and the characterization of Eren/Zeke is that it's going to be a simple payoff that ends the series on a bright note showing a permanent resolution to the conflict with the only other option being the memory twist I mentioned in a previous post (the person is Grisha, baby is Eren). I think how we get to that panel is more interesting right now than that panel (it is a perfect tease though, not too much not too little) as I really want to know how Reiner (especially with this recent curveball), the Helos plan, and the Eldia vs the world conflict resolves and I would like to see some speculation from the people still hanging around this thread about how these threads are going to wrap up. I hope so too. but the odds of it going that direction seem blurred. Isayama does a flawless job at catching us off guard with his plot twists. Hell, i was not prepared to see Gabi shoot Eren's head off like that. But from the audio that had been circulating recently (another possible spoiler), it appears that the rumbling will happen, and judging from what i was hearing, it appears both sides are doomed The only part of the exhibit I saw was a video + audio of the Willy speech (wonder if that is Willy's actual VA because he sounded pretty good) where he's talking about Eldian history and the potential for the rumbling + him being squashed in that sick declaration of war panel. It was really cool though the way that it was depicted like a shadow puppet show which was pretty neat overall and really added to the atmosphere of the speech. I think the rumbling has to occur either way as it is too big of a chekov's gun to not fire at least once, the question is the context of the rumbling is it Zeke losing his shit because Eren actually died or Eren betrayed him as Zeke's already lacklustre faith in humanity would be absolutely destoyed if he found out Eren was using him or is it Eren who activates them as a hard counter to the worlds forces which is one of the other big setups that's been dormant since chapter 100. I don't think that the rumbling is going to wipe out everyone as the final panel seems unambiguously positive rather than pure nihilism which would represent Zeke's unconditional victory after all no one can suffer if everyone is dead (an idea called the death drive in philosophy, can be seen in Eva & Persona 3 and many other Japanese works for some reason). I feel like no matter what Zeke won't win as it just feels kinda antithetical to the series general tone (the world & the people that inhabit it can be violent & cruel but life & freedom are still beautiful and worth fighting for) and I doubt many would like it. Still fun to speculate though on how it's going to end and I'm definitely locked and loaded for whatever ending the series is going to go with. I do hope that Eren plans to betray him in the end because i aint buying the fact that he's actually for the euthanasia plan. Even though Eren has been different after the scene at the sea, i doubt if he'd want have the entire eldian race not have children, that's genocide. And i dont believe Eren was even victimised the samewas Zeke was, in fact, Eren wasnt victimised or used as a tool to restore Eldia. It's like he said when he talked to Armin back in season 3 part 2, the moment he showed him his book about the world beyond the walls, he ended up developing that desire for freedom. And that being the case, Grisha would have had no problem passing the mission to Eren no problem or do anything to manipulate him. Eren would have accepted the mission if grisha hadnt rushed and given him both the attack and founding titan and given him answers. unless what i'm saying is far fetched Yea no way in hell Eren is on Zeke's side as Eren always has been on the side of life & pretty much embodies the Attack Titan whereas Zeke is trying to drag a entire race down with him all because he can't see value in life and only sees suffering and has decided that all of Eldia should go back to the void with him whether they like it or not (a deeply arrogant and wrongheaded idea). Even his plan is incredibly cruel even moreso than Marley as If you've ever seen Children Of Men you know this is a nightmare scenario that amplfies despair & ruin rather than giving people a merciful end showing that Zeke doesn't really even understand other human beings (not even his own brother) as all he does is pity them rather than understanding why they fight to live. Eren is of course the polar opposite of Zeke and I think Kruger set that up intentionally with his advice to Grisha to start a new family and raise a child with love rather than hate considering he had at least some of Eren's memories.