Board Thread:Wiki/@comment-28807545-20160621071026/@comment-28807545-20160621130123

Actually I thought I knew more than I did about some of the cases (Hannah with the spinoff death). Sorry about that. Thanks for the thoughtful reply though.

A thing about Armin though, which is more than just a technicality.

The human body tends to stay "alive" for quite a while after receiving fatal damage.

When you die from a 50 foot fall, you don't often just become dead right after the fall. It's all about bones puncturing organs and leading to organ failure which leads to death.

Same with burns. It doesn't cause this insta death. Even if Armin is medium rare and unconscious minutes away from death, he still could be clinically alive.

If the Serum requires someone "living" with a heartbeat, this is a big deal, as it is blood that a serum is assumed to travel through. And since the serum is such a factor now, it is incredibly important to be accurate, for the sake of not having to correct it in the future.

If this was any other scenario, you could almost certianly write him down as "dead" but the obvious way the story can go is that the serum will be used on him. And if the serum happens not to be able to bring someone back to life, then it is likely that he is seconds/minutes away from death when he receives it. And since it is an injection which travels in a bloodstream, using any other definition of "death" for him seems extremely non-practical.

Eren's "past tense" thing - one translation I saw didn't have it in past tense, while Crunchyroll did. I tend to trust Crunchyroll more, but even if it is past tense, I don't think Eren has knowledge about Levi's serum (wasn't it entrusted to him by Kenny?)  So given that Armin is clearly unconscious and completely disfigured, he is "dead" to Eren who doesn't know there is a way to revive him, and he "knows" that Armin will never hear another one of his words. And the lead-in to the next chapter doesn't imply death at all, from the Crunchyroll translation. I see "body" but in the wiki I see "corpse". It could be that it is a Japanese word that means dead body/corpse, but I wouldn't know from the translations I saw.

About the 55% thing, 55% of the wiki, versus 55% of the wiki voters doesn't have a whole lot of difference. The thing is that people who have fully read the manga and voted, tend to think the serum will be used on Armin.

About Sasha: I was too strong on that. "Unknown" is flexible so erring on a side of flexibility makes sense.