I'm not glad Hange's dead, but I'm not sad either. Hange led Paradis and the SC down the worst possible road, deluding everyone and herself into believing they could just sit down and make peace with Marley and world, even though they have no intention on letting Eldians live. The fact that both herself and Armin are blatantly against the Rumbling without an alternative solution, instead choosing to save the people of the outside world, shows how weak and shortsighted they really are. Although Gabi and the Warriors are my most hated characters, Hange had been pretty unlikable post-timeskip (as have Armin and Mikasa). Hange's legacy will be that of a traitor to her people, someone who turned their back on their own kind and sold them out to the enemy.
And I'm convinced that, with Floch's dying words, Jean will wake up to the reality of being unable to live free with the rest of the world and cause him to turn against the alliance and support the Rumbling.
I myself , think the latest two chapters as a prepration of the final and the most important arc of the series.
I also see them as thr answers to my questions about the unity and the intentions of the characters , so I think these two chapters were totally necessary for the story (I said this bcs I saw ppl who said Isayama is taking it long 😐😐)
The most visible thing in chapter 132 , was the intention of Isayama about Levi , I think he didn't kill him bcs he wants him to do sth really important , although he may not survive from the hell that the squad is heading toward.
I pray that if Levi is thought to be killed , there would be the most memorable and tragic one! Bcs he deserves that as one of the most fascinating characters of all time.
Thx for reading❤.
With each passing chapter, I care less and less about what will happen to the characters. I honestly didn't feel anything after Hange's death because there is nothing at stake anymore. The whole situation is FUBAR with Eren razing the world with the Rumbling, and the "Alliance" trying to stop him without any real plan to do so. Not to mention they're trying to save a world that will always hate them for what they are, and as Floch said, if they succeed in stopping Eren, everyone on Paradis Island will die, especially after what Eren did. I still want there to be good payoff at the end of all this, but it's getting increasingly difficult for me to care anymore.
KemonoTitan wrote: How many times is the "can you kill Eren" question gonna pop up? Guess Yams wants to hammer it in for the speed-readers.
At this rate I'm going to be disappointed if they can't. Otherwise why bother asking the question?
Its not even hammering in if they will fight him. Its hammering in how they don't want to fight him, and that Isayama is doing his part not to let readers think this is all leading to a fight. In fact, chp 131 solidifed through foreshadowing that we are not just in for a talk, but we're in for one in the same style as the talk Eren and Armin had during the season 1 boulder mission.
Besides, not to state the obvious, but Eren being killed will achieve nothing worthwhile in the long run. There's no guarantee it will stop the rumbling, and his people will still be demonized. We all know the story ends with peace and freedom, and that can't happen if Eren dies as "the bad guy" so something is going to happen that we're not expecting.
Attackcjc wrote:
KemonoTitan wrote: How many times is the "can you kill Eren" question gonna pop up? Guess Yams wants to hammer it in for the speed-readers.
At this rate I'm going to be disappointed if they can't. Otherwise why bother asking the question?
Its not even hammering in if they will fight him. Its hammering in how they don't want to fight him, and that Isayama is doing his part not to let readers think this is all leading to a fight. In fact, chp 131 solidifed through foreshadowing that we are not just in for a talk, but we're in for one in the same style as the talk Eren and Armin had during the season 1 boulder mission.
Besides, not to state the obvious, but Eren being killed will achieve nothing worthwhile in the long run. There's no guarantee it will stop the rumbling, and his people will still be demonized. We all know the story ends with peace and freedom, and that can't happen if Eren dies as "the bad guy" so something is going to happen that we're not expecting.
THIS! Very well put. Couldn't have said it better myself if I tried. You just made my day with this. Thank you.
Something else I think is worth considering is that at some point in episode 25 of the anime, Eren was in a state very similar to what he's in right now. This was in that filler scene where he was fighting Annie. But as he was about to make a move on her, he softened up at the last moment and couldn't even finish her off. With this in mind and just knowing how Eren's heart really works in general, I don't think it would be too farfetched for him to do the same basic thing again in the current manga.
Attackcjc wrote:
KemonoTitan wrote: How many times is the "can you kill Eren" question gonna pop up? Guess Yams wants to hammer it in for the speed-readers.
Besides, not to state the obvious, but Eren being killed will achieve nothing worthwhile in the long run. There's no guarantee it will stop the rumbling, and his people will still be demonized. We all know the story ends with peace and freedom, and that can't happen if Eren dies as "the bad guy" so something is going to happen that we're not expecting.
THIS! Very well put. Couldn't have said it better myself if I tried. You just made my day with this. Thank you.
Something else I think is worth considering is that at some point in episode 25 of the anime, Eren was in a state very similar to what he's in right now. This was in that filler scene where he was fighting Annie. But as he was about to make a move on her, he softened up at the last moment and couldn't even finish her off. With this in mind and just knowing how Eren's heart really works in general, I don't think it would be too farfetched for him to do the same basic thing again in the current manga.
No prob! And yeah, I remember that awesome moment, and believe it or not, it isn't filler. Isayama considers the anime to be the final draft of the series, so he had to had greenlit that being in the anime. I agree with everything you mentioned, as I was thinking the same already.
Attackcjc wrote:
KemonoTitan wrote: How many times is the "can you kill Eren" question gonna pop up? Guess Yams wants to hammer it in for the speed-readers.
At this rate I'm going to be disappointed if they can't. Otherwise why bother asking the question?
Its not even hammering in if they will fight him. Its hammering in how they don't want to fight him, and that Isayama is doing his part not to let readers think this is all leading to a fight. In fact, chp 131 solidifed through foreshadowing that we are not just in for a talk, but we're in for one in the same style as the talk Eren and Armin had during the season 1 boulder mission.
Besides, not to state the obvious, but Eren being killed will achieve nothing worthwhile in the long run. There's no guarantee it will stop the rumbling, and his people will still be demonized. We all know the story ends with peace and freedom, and that can't happen if Eren dies as "the bad guy" so something is going to happen that we're not expecting.
It's not a question of will they kill Eren. It's can. If they're asking the question "Can you kill Eren?" and the answer is yes, but they don't, that's fine.
But if the answer is no, then why bother asking the question over and over again when the person asking (mostly Annie) and the audience already suspects they know the answer?
Attackcjc wrote:
KemonoTitan wrote: How many times is the "can you kill Eren" question gonna pop up? Guess Yams wants to hammer it in for the speed-readers.
Besides, not to state the obvious, but Eren being killed will achieve nothing worthwhile in the long run. There's no guarantee it will stop the rumbling, and his people will still be demonized. We all know the story ends with peace and freedom, and that can't happen if Eren dies as "the bad guy" so something is going to happen that we're not expecting.
It's not a question of will they kill Eren. It's can. If they're asking the question "Can you kill Eren?" and the answer is yes, but they don't, that's fine.
But if the answer is no, then why bother asking the question over and over again when the person asking (mostly Annie) and the audience already suspects they know the answer?
I think the answer to that question is due to the fact that, if this was any other series, all the characters would be flocking to fight Eren no questions asked. If a fight with Eren was in the cards, after what happened in chp 123, there wouldn't be any debate over it between the characters, and even the ones who proposed it ended up turing away from it (Reiner, Gabi, Annie).
I think this is Isayama's way of setting the stage and telling people not to just expect a fight and Eren's death, as many are expecting. There are people who just think Eren should just die now, ignoring the signs the story won't go in that direction, and on another topic, these are also the same people who honestly thought Eren agreed with Zeke's euthanasia plan, when evidence going as far back as season 1 disproved that. They just bought into how things looked on the surface and not all the details surrounding the situation.
My point is, Isayama's method of storytelling is to keep things mysterious while leaving a bread crumb trail as a hint of where things are going. In this case, he wants to show a dilemma over Eren, but he wants to also hint that they won't end up fighting him.
Attackcjc wrote:
Attackcjc wrote:
KemonoTitan wrote: How many times is the "can you kill Eren" question gonna pop up? Guess Yams wants to hammer it in for the speed-readers.
Besides, not to state the obvious, but Eren being killed will achieve nothing worthwhile in the long run. There's no guarantee it will stop the rumbling, and his people will still be demonized. We all know the story ends with peace and freedom, and that can't happen if Eren dies as "the bad guy" so something is going to happen that we're not expecting.
THIS! Very well put. Couldn't have said it better myself if I tried. You just made my day with this. Thank you.
Something else I think is worth considering is that at some point in episode 25 of the anime, Eren was in a state very similar to what he's in right now. This was in that filler scene where he was fighting Annie. But as he was about to make a move on her, he softened up at the last moment and couldn't even finish her off. With this in mind and just knowing how Eren's heart really works in general, I don't think it would be too farfetched for him to do the same basic thing again in the current manga.
No prob! And yeah, I remember that awesome moment, and believe it or not, it isn't filler. Isayama considers the anime to be the final draft of the series, so he had to had greenlit that being in the anime. I agree with everything you mentioned, as I was thinking the same already.
Good point. And the stuff we see in advance in the anime and spinoffs often turns out to be foreshadowing events to come. You and I are on a very similar wavelength.
Plus, why would Grisha all of a sudden regain the faith he lost in Eren and then inject him? There must be a good reason for that.
I even still see Zeke being fought as a major threat after Eren is back to normal and clearly on their side again.