The staff was discussing about your situation again, and we believe that you've been given far too many chances already and there's no change.
I'm sorry but I think this fandom has already endured enough doses of that never-ending toxicity. More people are getting annoyed over time, more threads continue to derail and revolve around that repetitive lamenting of yours despite countless warnings; even some who found your rants amusing already got fed up. I've also gotten complaints from people who say that they're considering to unfollow the forum discussions because you just can't stop plaguing them and won't drop the topic no matter what.
There's a limit of how much negativity a human being can stand and you've tested the limits of so many by now. If you dislike this series as much as you keep claiming, then I see no reason for keeping you around, so I'm doing you and this place a favor and blocking you permanently. I also reiterate my previous recommendation that you find a series or hobby that you actually like, it'll be the best for you and for those communities whose hobbies you love hating.
I had already warned you to stop harassing our users on other wikis. Your ban is not temporary and you're not the one who decides that, it's permanent and this wall and dozens of threads on our forum are filled with the reasons for it. We are not discussing this anymore. Any further message on the matter will be ignored, and if you insist in your cross-wiki harassment I'm escalating this to the Fandom Staff and requesting a global ban.
The AoT Wiki staff was discussing about your situation and we believe that you need some time out of this community.
We understand that you are angry about the events of the latest chapter and you're free to express your disagreement; but you have already gone past the point of expressing that opinion and into trying to force it on others through sheer insistence. Your continuous personal attacks and insults towards the author of the series as well as censoring users who express different views are unacceptable for a civil discussion. This behavior is disruptive and uncomfortable not only for people who don't share your thoughts but even for those who didn't like the events either.
You already made your stance more than clear given that you've been stating it even on the S3 trailer thread before the chapter discussion was opened and on the discussion about the featured stuff (despite warnings that none of those were the place for it); and since you're just going over and over the same point now and your previous block was for a week, I'm giving you a month-long block this time so you can take a break until the next issue. Let's hope this helps you calm down and reflect on how to behave in community discussions.
And you'll get blocked again if you keep doing the same stuff that got you blocked in the previous two occasions, like yet again going off-topic in the threads for the featured stuff. I'll consider a permanent block next time if this behavior continues.
I didn't read the full context, I did not differentiate the two threads focused on 106, that was me not paying enough attention to acknowledge the fact, that's my error. I'm not taking part in any more votes whatsoever.
Oh and don't think I'm not still bitter over last month's developments. You don't quite know how personally that affected me. For me this story's done. I'm primarily focused on editing right now, and eventually I'm going to be leaving.
Okay. So if I want to criticize Isayama, what am I allowed to say that isn't going too far around here? I can't pretend I hold much respect for him, but what's the acceptable approach if I voice disapproval of his decisions? Please let me know.
It's not necessarily how much you dislike him as how you say it and how often you say it. A calm and rational critique is fine, but you were getting angry and wound up in the days leading up to your last ban. Aside from posting in the wrong threads, you were taking every opportunity to vent.
The goal of the forums is to have a discussion. So once you've had a chance to say what you want, that's it. If someone responds, you can add new information, but if you start ranting and derail the rest of the thread's conversation by the frequency and anger of your posts, that's when you get a time out. The rest of the visitors reading the thread don't want to read a dozen posts of Isayama bashing when they're there to follow the story discussion of Chapter 105.
This applies across threads too. If no one is responding to you or a post is deleted in one thread, you don't move over to another one and repost the same thing.
This thing you wrote in the Chapter 106 thread: Somehow, I get the feeling this is a case of Tell, Don't Show. When did that ever get any high emphasis anywhere in the manga? The entire situation, the actual murder, rings hollow because of all the circumstances surrounding it.
That's good criticism.
More comments like that and less of how Isayama is destroying the series (since by all accounts it's doing just fine, and we can back that up with sales data).
Hey I'm still angry. But I'm not going to light any fires, getting banned is getting a little old for me. And I acknowledge I was posting in the wrong threads, stupid mistake on my part.
And I meant every word of it. I don't sense ANY affection being given to the secondary or background characters by how this has been written. Which makes these scenes that much more outrageous, it's like he doesn't see any value in them and so doesn't acknowledge how we value them. You can sense it in how he writes this stuff, do I even have to start on Ymir? She might as well have not existed, surrendering herself to Marley completely invalidated her character. And he's taken years to acknowledge Annie in any meaningful way. And Sasha, I can tell you how this could've been handled completely differently instead of going for raw shock value, which feels like this scene's only meaning.
But perhaps that's for another thread, I don't know.
Dude, I don't care about sales figures. There are TV series out there that enjoy absurdly high ratings when they are failing to deliver on one aspect or another. That means nothing to me. The thing that got me looking over here in the first place has been taken away, and I cannot forgive this author for that.
It's fine to be angry as long as you keep a reasonable tone of voice. As I said, it's how you say it and how often.
The reason I bring up the sales data is that even if it means nothing to you, there are a lot of people who continue to be huge fans of the series. We want those people to be able to join the forums and feel like it's possible to have a friendly conversation.
So is my saying I think the story is already dead going too far or not? I'm a guy used to disappointment and unfortunately, we've finally reached that point here. I don't see it fading for the remainder of this manga's duration. So I don't really know what to say about this point onward.
Why, is my question. Especially after last month. Do we come here for that? Because that right now means more than what the bookstores are getting off of it.
Agreed on that. Though I can't understand a lot of things said across the grapevine.
You've said you're disappointed and that's fine. It's okay to say the story is too far gone for you to like anymore. People fall out of love with series all the time.
Now that you've told the forums that, you don't need to say it again unless something changes your impression of the series. Tell us something new.
Analysis of the new chapter is great. That's why I called out your post about Mikasa at Sasha's grave. Telling us old stuff you've already said is not so much, especially when the post itself is written to be angry.
This was the ONE thing I didn't want to see. I don't think that was unreasonable. And if anything, Connie or Levi should've been the one to die in this chapter. The former because he has contributed even less to the story and because it'd have offered greater weight to Sasha's fatal mistake, and the latter because we know this guy's gonna die anyway and as the best Paradis soldier, that's a big deal.
I don't want to follow this story if Sasha isn't part of it. And I'm furious that this is gonna get into the anime. The story is done. It's over, it is irrelevant what happens next as far as I'm concerned. Complete waste of time for something I knew was gonna suck. I didn't feel anything reading 106. I mostly felt resentment, and I still strongly believe Isayama did himself no favors with this stunt. Like do I even care what happens with Annie at this point?
What else is there for me to offer? How about my feeling that because Isayama didn't put any stronger emphasis on everyone's connection with Sasha aside from Connie's, which went as far as showing them as a comedic duo and not much farther.....with only Armin as an exception......he only succeeded at cheapening the entire deal? Would've been easier to stomach if it was a conscious act of self-sacrifice on Sasha's part. I stand firm that she should've lived to the final fight, but seriously just anything but THIS.
Everyone keeps saying the two girls were close..........How? The last chapter may have confirmed that Mikasa did in fact care about Sasha, but why this not seen more often if we're gonna get a scene where Mikasa sits alone mourning her? Where was this connection in the last seventy chapters? We spend so much time on exposition and nowhere near enough on character development.
This is what I want more of, not of Reiner's soap opera or of a relationship between Eren and Mikasa that rings so hollow on Eren's side of the fence.
You're getting worked up again. (Or maybe you already were, but it's showing your writing now.) And when you get worked up, you start repeating yourself and your dissatisfaction.
It's not impossible for you to find other things to say. For instance, if there's something in the thread you want to respond to, like whether Yelena could become a Titan, go ahead. You did, and that was part of the discussion. You can and have been able to say things that are not repeating yourself.
And if you run out of new things to say for the latest chapter, that's fine. Come back when the next chapter comes out. Nobody posts on the forums everyday.
Unfortunately you can't get your time back, but if you enjoyed those four years up until recently, those are still four years you enjoyed. Sasha's death doesn't rewrite history. But if you're not sure why you're still reading the series, that may be a sign that now is a good time to stop.
Fall in love with something new. Fans move on to different series or even different hobbies all the time. Some people even call this "outgrowing" a fandom.
You know what you like in a manga. Check out some others that catch your eye and see if you find something else that interests you. Or read some good books. Try western comics. Watch a TV series you've been meaning to get around to. Even if you stayed with Attack on Titan to the end, you'd have to find something new eventually (and probably within a year or two). If you start looking now you'd just be starting the journey sooner.
No but what did it do? It killed my ability to care. You know how much I stressed over it happening since before the Shiganshina battle? You can't replace Sasha in this mess. I was so hoping for better things from her somewhere down the line. And now I know we're not getting it. And again, I've said several times already that I was still mad over Ymir which was also a seriously dissatisfying revelation.
I would like to forget I ever looked at this. Consistently disappointing, and consistently offputting. "Anyone Can Die", to Hell with that.
This is the beginning of the end, I know Paradis will just end up aflame anyway. That's a lot of investment and stress that really went to waste.
I'm not here to argue with you or haggle over definitions.
I'm saying if you're not having fun anymore, go find something that is fun. There are a lot of better things to do in life than get hung up over a manga series.
And this will be my last response to you in this thread because I have things I'd rather be doing as well. You have all the information you need now on how to behave here and avoid getting blocked again.
This thing took a turn from which it will not recover. If the folks behind the anime are smart, they will blow this off and actually deviate from the manga on that one, just like they ***supposedly*** will do with the Uprising arc. But the damage is done, I ain't a foolish optimist.
Well, sorry I ever heard of this one. But more than anything I regret that it was ever written.
I don't enjoy Attack on Titan anymore, RuneLai. I'm seriously wondering if I ever did.
This thread has become a perfect example of the behavior we've been explaining. It started as a notice about your block and it has turned into a discussion about how disappointed you're in the series. Every discussion you have is always about the same topic. We know that you think Isayama is a bad writer, that he wastes his characters, that he doesn't care about the opinions of the fans, that the series is ruined and it only gets ruined even more with every new chapter. We got it. In fact, I remember that one of our earliest interactions was during the discussion of Chapter 85 where you were already complaining that the series was lost. All of your messages are essentially the same argument reworded and repeated ad nauseam.
You have the freedom to have a negative opinion if you want, but the problem is that you for some reason feel the need to be telling it to everyone at every chance. Apparently nobody can have a positive opinion on the series without you jumping in to refute it and dragging out the discussion until you either get the other person to agree with you (which never happens) or they get tired and stop replying (which is usually what you cause, like here). And sometimes not even this is enough, as I saw that during your previous two blocks you went to contact users on other wikis to continue arguing with them even when they were trying to ignore you.
The most worrying part of this is that you're perfectly aware of how bothersome your behavior can be, but you shrug it off as you see yourself as critic who doesn't have to indulge anyone. But we do care about it, because this often results in the forum becoming an unpleasant environment, and it goes beyond criticism and turns into trolling.
You need to have the decency of giving people a break from your negativity, and understand that no matter how much and how loudly you insist, we won't agree with you. We realize that the series has flaws, but despite that we still like it and look forward for the next issues and adaptations. The only thing you accomplish with trying to convert others to you overly pessimistic side is to get yourself blocked for annoying. If you have nothing new to say or simply don't like the series anymore, you should just go and find a hobby you actually like (if such a thing even exists).
As for this place, stop turning it into something repellent for users who —unlike you— do find enjoyment in the series. I know this isn't an isolated case, as I checked your cross-wiki history after your first block and counted up at least 12 blocks on 4 wikis for the same reason going as far back as 2013, so it's clear that we're dealing with a chronic troublemaker, and I'm not interested in enduring the same bashing every month until the final chapter. If you can't understand the difference between constructive criticism and tiresome ranting, then you're going to earn yourself a permanent block. At the end, it seems you've already said all you had to say, so it's not like we're going to miss out on anything.
Fine then. And cool, you know about my history, I might as well be forward and honest about it. I'm not here to make trouble, let's just be clear about that. But I am an angry individual, I will not deny anything about my history of ranting. All of what you said is true.
I will temper my tone. I will make an honest effort to do that. I'm probably not gonna be here for very much longer anyway.
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