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  • I couldn't respond on that blog for some reason so I'm saying it here lol but I get how from chp 105 onwards Eren had a "bad" cover to his character, but it was always highly debatable to call him "the villain", along with some of the things you said. There's no proof he doesn't care, in fact, he proved the opposite between how he described war to Falco, along with how he looked at Mikasa in chp 102 when she brought up the damage he caused.  Besides, its been made clear that Eren really did have no choice but to follow through with that attack, and THERE WERE NO OTHER OPTIONS (anybody who said otherwise just wanted to hate him).  Ever since Liberio, there's been a whole number of reasons to justify Eren's actions but its not like Fire Eater could've cared less about them given his attitude post-chp 105 which got him banned. But even if he doesn't listen, there are a whole lot of fans who know better, and if I'm being honest, Eren was always a popular character, and after the time skip he won over lots more readers, including Levi fans who consider Eren considerably better now.  He was never a bad guy all of a sudden, not to get into how a change like that doesn't even make sense lol so I'm pretty sure by the end of this, Eren will be seen as a good guy again.

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    • Attackcjc wrote:

      I agree on basically everything you just said. We practically have the same opinion of Eren. The only difference is that I don't buy he is actually going to destroy the world. There was always good reasons to suggest he wouldn't destroy the world, even if him doing so made sense, and many are smart to realize that chp 123 isn't a case-closed moment, that there is more to his plan.  The whole "Eren is a villain" concept was always highly fallacious as it just didn't make sense as a character change, especially given his talk to Reiner (proof I used to change people's minds on Eren ending the world) which showed excellent character development that a few weirdly believe was shortly regressed in chp 100, which couldn't be more false.  But yeah, Eren won over many post timeskip, and let's just say he robbed Levi of many fans, their words not mine lol

      Well, when chapter 123 came out, I was also with the people saying there is still something else than about Eren's plans. Currently, it's not that I don't think this is still a possibility, it's just that I haven't really considered it since, as I don't buy de Lelouch ending. Of course there might be something else, but that's not really in my mind, and I act as if Eren's full plan was to genocide the world. In terms of storytelling, I'd be fine if it's just this, and if there's something else, I'm not against it at all, but it mostly depends of what that "something else" is. 



      A long time ago, I thought that Eren's plan was to dissociate the SoY from the Paths, making them unable to turn into Titans, etc... This way, the Titan threat would have been solved. This possibility might still be possible, and the genocide plan would be, as Eren appears to be thinking, the plan to prevent the world from destroying Paradise since they don't have Titans power anymore. After that, the Paradisians would be freed from the threat of the world and the threat of Titans power, thus fitting the "You're free" last panel.

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    • Razzylada wrote:
      Attackcjc wrote:

      I agree on basically everything you just said. We practically have the same opinion of Eren. The only difference is that I don't buy he is actually going to destroy the world. There was always good reasons to suggest he wouldn't destroy the world, even if him doing so made sense, and many are smart to realize that chp 123 isn't a case-closed moment, that there is more to his plan.  The whole "Eren is a villain" concept was always highly fallacious as it just didn't make sense as a character change, especially given his talk to Reiner (proof I used to change people's minds on Eren ending the world) which showed excellent character development that a few weirdly believe was shortly regressed in chp 100, which couldn't be more false.  But yeah, Eren won over many post timeskip, and let's just say he robbed Levi of many fans, their words not mine lol

      Well, when chapter 123 came out, I was also with the people saying there is still something else than about Eren's plans. Currently, it's not that I don't think this is still a possibility, it's just that I haven't really considered it since, as I don't buy de Lelouch ending. Of course there might be something else, but that's not really in my mind, and I act as if Eren's full plan was to genocide the world. In terms of storytelling, I'd be fine if it's just this, and if there's something else, I'm not against it at all, but it mostly depends of what that "something else" is. 



      A long time ago, I thought that Eren's plan was to dissociate the SoY from the Paths, making them unable to turn into Titans, etc... This way, the Titan threat would have been solved. This possibility might still be possible, and the genocide plan would be, as Eren appears to be thinking, the plan to prevent the world from destroying Paradise since they don't have Titans power anymore. After that, the Paradisians would be freed from the threat of the world and the threat of Titans power, thus fitting the "You're free" last panel.

      I get what you mean. I always knew that Eren's true goal was to break the war cycle somehow.  The thing is, he has to prove to Marley and the rest of the world that they aren't devils since, as instances have shown, even if the island people act peaceful, they will still be viewed as monsters. Like in chp 106 when Hanje was being nice and she almost got shot for it.  I knew that at the end, Eren would do something beneficial for everyone, but as I was able to figure before chp 100, as much as I would love both sides to talk this out, there would have to be some big fight to get there first as Marley (and by extension the rest of the world) couldn't be more misguided in their views, which Willy actually took another step making Eren public enemy #1. 

      Eren had no choice but to carry out that attack in Liberio, and while it didn't seem he planned on the Marley invasion in chp 116, I'm sure he was always planning something along the lines of what we're thinking, and either way, I knew the battle would most certainly end with Marley's defeat and subsequently learning the truth, a situation where even Reiner can finally speak the truth to his side, and a truth bomb he needs to drop very soon, as I hoped he would've by now.  Now that Eren did the rumbling, and stopped the fighting, both sides just want to talk now.  We might be getting that "something else" very soon.

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  • I had fun debating you and everyone else who challenged me. I'm still confused as to why you deleted all your posts in the thread.

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