Could Ilse Langnar's name come from Ilse Wagner? She was a girl who was related to Anne Frank, who kept a diary of the events during the Holocaust.Alicealicelegend (talk) 06:17, January 14, 2014 (UTC)

It's possible. However, we can't know that unless it's explicitely stated by Isayama. hfc2X 06:53, January 14, 2014 (UTC)
Considering how it'd be relatively easy to translocate Wagner into japanese, that's rather unlikely. Going by the german pronounciation all the necessary syllables are there in japanese, though there'd be two muted Us: ワグネル = Wa-gu-ne-ru
NoNickNeeded (talk) 11:20, January 14, 2014 (UTC)
Well, to start with, Wagner in japanese is written as 「ワグナー」, but that wasn't what Alicealicelegend was asking. The question was if Ilse was based on Ilse Wagner, which I don't find unlikely, but is something to be considered as a theory unless stated by Isayama. hfc2X 17:44, January 14, 2014 (UTC)
The table I got from my japanese professor at university (who was born in Japan and lived there most of her life) begs to differ on the exact spelling, but that still doesn't change my point. For a direct connection the names are just too different I think.
And is Ilse Wagner someone I should know about. Google spits out dozens of different Ilse Wagners, whether is persons, companies and even a telenovela... But considering how Ilse and Wagner are both quite common names, that's hardly surprising. NoNickNeeded (talk) 22:03, January 14, 2014 (UTC)


The Titan that killed Ilse should get an article. Being the first Titan to communicate using human language, it's pretty important. Something like "Talking Titan" for a title. --BobLogical (talk) 22:35, January 29, 2014 (UTC)

The Beast Titan can talk as well, though. NeoSuperior (talk) 23:00, January 29, 2014 (UTC)
Yes, but this was the FIRST Titan to ever be shown speaking. In the end, though, who talked first is beside the point: This is a talking Titan. The Beast Titan has an article, too, so I don't really see the point you're trying to make there. If the Smiling Titan who only has a role to create angst for Eren and Mikasa has one, why doesn't this guy? --BobLogical (talk) 04:17, February 1, 2014 (UTC)
I agree with the sentiment that the Titan that killed Ilse should get an article; however, what is the name of said Titan? Should it be mentioned in the Deviant-type Titan article, or should it get it's own article? --Falloutghoul (talk) 14:27, June 1, 2014 (UTC)
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