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    • Well then.Sucks to be Mikasa, no matter what happens Eren and Armin with both die way before her. I wonder if there is a way to stop the 13 year age limit curse? Any ideas?

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    • I don't think there is but we'll see. Grisha knew about that 13 years limit and still forcibly passed the Ymir's curse into him. Doesn't matter as long as he restores Eldia in those 13 years, right? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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    • Well, now my opinion of Grisha has hit rock bottom. He knew he would die in 13 years yet he still chose to start a family with Carla knowing that he'd die early and leave his son and wife to mourn. 

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    • Man, this one was an eye-opener. So much new information, and a poignant close to Kruger's story despite how short a time we've known him.

      And that title drop. Wow.

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    • Where did you guys read it so early? Man put a guy on!

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    • So Eren's life has been shortened severely, as has Armin's, and the same goes for all people who bear a titan shifter power. It really sucks for them.

      It will be interesting to see how Mikasa moves forward from this if she survives.

      And here I was, back then, thinking I wouldn't mind Mikasa and Levi getting titan forms. But now, forget it. Besides, they're already such beasts even without it anyways. And likewise, I also now wish Armin would have been allowed to just get it all done and over with on the rooftop and rest in peace right then and there as well.

      What a shame. And not only does a titan shifter power shorten its holder's life severly, but even if the holder tries to avoid passing it on to someone else directly to stop the curse from condemning anyone else, that still won't be enough to get rid of it, as it would still find its way to some other person at random, no matter how far away they are.

      This all stems from Ymir Fritz's "deal with the devil" or whatever, so she caused this mess. But maybe there will turn out to be some supernatural method to give back or throw away the powers along with their curses just like there was a supernatural method to gain them in the first place. That's the problem that really needs to be solved, if it's even possible, or the same thing will only continue happening. Then, maybe Eren and Armin can be saved and live normal lives and lifespans. That would take a miracle at this point, though, and honestly, my hopes for that aren't very high right now. Otherwise, if their fates are irreversibly sealed, I hope they just get it all done and over with and die heroic and honorable deaths on the battlefield, well before their "time lmits" are up, just after all the fighting is finally over with the good guys winning and everyone being saved and freed.

      If the manga does give us a bad ending, then hopefully we can get another alternate ending (like maybe for the anime) that's at least a little better...

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    • LOWKEY0 wrote:

      Where did you guys read it so early? Man put a guy on!

      It's available on Crunchyroll in the link seen on the homepage in the Events section. It's available for pre-order on Amazon and comiXology too, it will come out in those sources in a few hours.

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    • Wonder why he named his son after Kruger, though? 

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    • Cabbage and potatoes wrote:
      Wonder why he named his son after Kruger, though? 

      Because he saved his life and gave him the means to acquire the Coordinate.

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    • And that dream that Eren was having in the first chapter/first episode, does it have to do with those "paths" that he said? Is it possible that even if Grisha didn't pass on the titan power to Eren, Eren would still have that power? 

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    • That title drop. Man why all the cool characters gotta go :( but they give epic speeches.

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    • Manuel de la Fuente wrote:

      LOWKEY0 wrote:

      Where did you guys read it so early? Man put a guy on!

      It's available on Crunchyroll in the link seen on the homepage in the Events section. It's available for pre-order on Amazon and comiXology too, it will come out in those sources in a few hours.

      I tried reading it on Crunchyroll but all it gives me is a blank image. Do you have to have an account with them to view it?

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    • I'm officially disgusted with the revelation of the Titan Shifter's fate. Even if they survive, they have a death sentence put on their lives.

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    • CaptFredricks wrote:

      I tried reading it on Crunchyroll but all it gives me is a blank image. Do you have to have an account with them to view it?

      You will also have to be a premium member to read the chapter.

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    • Aggression25 wrote:
      I'm officially disgusted with the revelation of the Titan Shifter's fate. Even if they survive, they have a death sentence put on their lives.

      I feel you, it really sucks and is terrible to think of

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    • Wow....so everything comes full circle. The fact that the manga's title actually had a deeper meaning behind it amazes me. I won't lie, I felt giddy during that final page. I'm genuinely impressed with AoT's story with what has happened in the last few chapters.

      Hpnestly, having thought about it, the concept behind the shortened lives for the Shifters doesn't seem too surprising in retrospect. Guess we'll have to see later to see what comes of it. If this is really a "curse" so to speak, might Eren and Armin be able to break the cycle somehow and end things for good?

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    • Campbell02 wrote:
      Well, now my opinion of Grisha has hit rock bottom. He knew he would die in 13 years yet he still chose to start a family with Carla knowing that he'd die early and leave his son and wife to mourn. 

      Eh, I think that's kind of harsh. I don't think he expected to fall in love again. What is he to do? Just ignore everything and live alone? He fell in love and that resulted in a new family. Things happen and I wouldn't hold that against him.

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    • Sentinel00 wrote: If this is really a "curse" so to speak, might Eren and Armin be able to break the cycle somehow and end things for good?

      That's something I'd really like to see, but it remains to be seen for now, and as of now, my hopes on that are not very high.

      In the end, it was never Eren's choice to become a titan, no matter what intentions his father had, and it turns out it shortened his life too.

      It's still a great story overall either way, though, and I'll still follow it until it finally comes to an end.

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    • Sentinel00 wrote:
      Campbell02 wrote:
      Well, now my opinion of Grisha has hit rock bottom. He knew he would die in 13 years yet he still chose to start a family with Carla knowing that he'd die early and leave his son and wife to mourn. 
      Eh, I think that's kind of harsh. I don't think he expected to fall in love again. What is he to do? Just ignore everything and live alone? He fell in love and that resulted in a new family. Things happen and I wouldn't hold that against him.

      well, i guess he could have pulled a Keith Shadis, and chose to stay single.

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    • What if the Coordinate transcends time? The idea that "memories and outside will" can come through the "paths". What if that first scene, where Mikasa's hair is short and she says "See you later Eren", that's when he dies...and sends his willpower and memory back to himself. What if it's a giant loop? 

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    • Dingman wrote:
      What if the Coordinate transcends time? The idea that "memories and outside will" can come through the "paths". What if that first scene, where Mikasa's hair is short and she says "See you later Eren", that's when he dies...and sends his willpower and memory back to himself. What if it's a giant loop? 

      It's been a while since I've seen this theory be brought up again. It does kind of feel like this chapter might set up such a possibility.

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    • Dingman wrote:
      What if the Coordinate transcends time? The idea that "memories and outside will" can come through the "paths". What if that first scene, where Mikasa's hair is short and she says "See you later Eren", that's when he dies...and sends his willpower and memory back to himself. What if it's a giant loop? 

      Eren didn't have the Coordinate at the time he had that dream. Nevertheless, I guess anything's possible. That would be interesting nonetheless. Then maybe they could try to change the course of history for the better. Maybe there are some parallel worlds and realms.

      I don't know if time travel is the kind of thing that would fit this series, but maybe it could work out if planned properly.

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    • Campbell02 wrote:
      Sentinel00 wrote:
      Campbell02 wrote:
      Well, now my opinion of Grisha has hit rock bottom. He knew he would die in 13 years yet he still chose to start a family with Carla knowing that he'd die early and leave his son and wife to mourn. 
      Eh, I think that's kind of harsh. I don't think he expected to fall in love again. What is he to do? Just ignore everything and live alone? He fell in love and that resulted in a new family. Things happen and I wouldn't hold that against him.
      well, i guess he could have pulled a Keith Shadis, and chose to stay single.

      That's...not quite the same. Grisha got the girl Keith was in love with and he just didn't seem to bother with that kind of stuff again.

      If Grisha had some desire for something of a normal family life before he would have to die, I don't blame him for one second.

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    • Sentinel00 wrote:
      Campbell02 wrote:
      Sentinel00 wrote:
      Campbell02 wrote:
      Well, now my opinion of Grisha has hit rock bottom. He knew he would die in 13 years yet he still chose to start a family with Carla knowing that he'd die early and leave his son and wife to mourn. 
      Eh, I think that's kind of harsh. I don't think he expected to fall in love again. What is he to do? Just ignore everything and live alone? He fell in love and that resulted in a new family. Things happen and I wouldn't hold that against him.
      well, i guess he could have pulled a Keith Shadis, and chose to stay single.
      That's...not quite the same. Grisha got the girl Keith was in love with and he just didn't seem to bother with that kind of stuff again.

      If Grisha had some desire for something of a normal family life before he would have to die, I don't blame him for one second.


      Good point. It's a shame that titan invasion happened though, which ultimately ruined that family anyways as well, especially since Grisha had learned his lesson at that time.

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    • The Coordinate is like a big server.

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    • I kind of wonder. With Kruger's explanation that the 9 Titan powers will essentially continue to be passed down regardless if it's by consuption or not, it makes me wonder if AoT's ending will perhaps deal with the destruction of the 9 powers somehow.

      I mean, if they aren't destroyed, they're going to continue showing up in new hosts again and again without end.

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    • Sentinel00 wrote:
      I kind of wonder. With Kruger's explanation that the 9 Titan powers will essentially continue to be passed down regardless if it's by consuption or not, it makes me wonder if AoT's ending will perhaps deal with the destruction of the 9 powers somehow.

      I mean, if they aren't destroyed, they're going to continue showing up in new hosts again and again without end.

      I could see that, but I think there will also be one big final battle between the Eldians and Marleyans. Maybe all the titan shifters will be forced to team up at some point. But you've got a point. That hell will continue as long as the shifter powers exist, so if possible, they need to be permanently eliminated for that problem to be solved for good.

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    • ...So first all of my favorites characters turn out to be genocidal Titan shifters (+Ymir) and now I find they are all going to die no matter what by the time they hit 20.....

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      Thank you Isayama for wonderful Christmas gift...

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      ...I hate you....

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    • Poor Mikasa, she's going to lose her whole family again... :(

      By the way, what is the "path". I don't buy Grisha's babbling saying it magic stuff, there must be some explanation to it

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    • Erdagon wrote:
      Poor Mikasa, she's going to lose her whole family again... :(

      By the way, what is the "path". I don't buy Grisha's babbling saying it magic stuff, there must be some explanation to it

      Like I said, I think the Titan powers are organized like the Internet. When a shifter dies, their power goes back to that "Internet", and are passed down to another Eldian. Remember Kruger saying that all Eldians are connected? It's like "paths" in the air. An Internet for the Eldians that Ymir created.

      That's also how Titan shifting works. I think Kruger said that the Titan's flesh and bones are in the "paths". The energy and masses are stored in the Eldian Internet. When a Titan regenerates, the flesh or bones are taken from there. I wouldn't really call that magic.

      And one thing that came to my mind, why did these three things happen at the same time: the warriors attacked the Walls, Grisha's power was ending, and Frieda became the Coordinate holder. That couldn't have been a coincidente.

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    • People saying Eren and Armin's life was shortened are wrong, i guess you didn't get the chapter. If they didn't have the titan power both Eren and Armin would be dead. Eren in a titan belly or in one of those things the titans throw up after eating enough humans, and Armin would be grilled.


      Also i can't help but think about Armin's father, how does he know about the ocean and so on? Was he one of the 9 titans or something or have i missed something important about Armin's father

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    • Now Annie's father's apology makes even more sense. "I put you in danger and shortened your life to gain more rights" doesn't sound very charming.

      Also, I'm too lazy to check, does coordinate count as one of the 9 titans? Because previous Reiss family holders looked really old to me when they die. Like, older than 13 years from their succession.

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    • Just when i thought we can't be more surprised after the last chapters I don't even know who we should hate or who has the worst fate After reading this whole volume But i gotta say I'm sympathing with Grisha he doesn't deserve all this hate he did what he had to do

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    • Imhd9 wrote: Just when i thought we can't be more surprised after the last chapters I don't even know who we should hate or who has the worst fate After reading this whole volume But i gotta say I'm sympathing with Grisha he doesn't deserve all this hate he did what he had to do

      I don't hate him. I understand he had to do something. But he still didn't even give his son a choice or good explanation, and that is still unsettling.

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    • I'm sure there will be some kind of way to destroy the Titan powers. As I've stated before, I can imagine some kind of cure coming to light. In all honestly that 13 year thing feels just kind of put in there on a whim. It doesn't all seem to match up with the rest of the story. Yes, the Reisses may have records of their coordinate holders but they all seemed to get eaten up less than 13 years after. With other shifters, I know this has been said before that some of them seemed to have their powers longer than 13 years. Characters talking of limited time could be applied to anything, limited time before they're killed, limited time to capture Eren, etc. There's not really any books on Titan shifting history except the one Kruger said was false. Obviously there's not enough info to make a highly accurate guess out of anything.

      I don't know what to think. Isayama seems to flip back and forth between his good ending/bad ending ideas. I honestly can't even tell what route he'll take from chapter to chapter.

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    • I've probably missed something but didn't Grisha arrive in the walls 20 years before the story starts? That would mean he must of found a way to prolong his life which could mean there's hope yet for Armin and Eren.

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    • Eradicate Us wrote:

      Imhd9 wrote: Just when i thought we can't be more surprised after the last chapters I don't even know who we should hate or who has the worst fate After reading this whole volume But i gotta say I'm sympathing with Grisha he doesn't deserve all this hate he did what he had to do

      I don't hate him. I understand he had to do something. But he still didn't even give his son a choice or good explanation, and that is still unsettling.

      Well it's something that can't be explained to a child I guess that's why he gave him the keys to the basement so he can know everything once he's ready But one thing that bugs me is that he didn't learn his lesson after what happened with zeke, normally you would leave your family out of danger after what happened to his first family I don't know or I might just forget why Grisha inherited the titan power to eren.

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    • 30325dh wrote: In all honestly that 13 year thing feels just kind of put in there on a whim. It doesn't all seem to match up with the rest of the story. Yes, the Reisses may have records of their coordinate holders but they all seemed to get eaten up less than 13 years after. With other shifters, I know this has been said before that some of them seemed to have their powers longer than 13 years. Characters talking of limited time could be applied to anything, limited time before they're killed, limited time to capture Eren, etc. There's not really any books on Titan shifting history except the one Kruger said was false. Obviously there's not enough info to make a highly accurate guess out of anything.

      I don't know what to think. Isayama seems to flip back and forth between his good ending/bad ending ideas. I honestly can't even tell what route he'll take from chapter to chapter.

      Well, I just checked the timeline. Grisha inherits the Titan power and is found by Keith Shadis in 832, and he has Eren eat him in 845, which is exactly 13 years apart. He knew he was very short on time.

      Not saying I'm fond of this whole idea, but it seems Isayama is being consistent.

      One thing I'm uncertain of is when Zeke got his powers. If 13 years really is the limit, he must have gotten his at least 5 years after Grisha.

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    • CaptFredricks wrote:

      30325dh wrote: In all honestly that 13 year thing feels just kind of put in there on a whim. It doesn't all seem to match up with the rest of the story. Yes, the Reisses may have records of their coordinate holders but they all seemed to get eaten up less than 13 years after. With other shifters, I know this has been said before that some of them seemed to have their powers longer than 13 years. Characters talking of limited time could be applied to anything, limited time before they're killed, limited time to capture Eren, etc. There's not really any books on Titan shifting history except the one Kruger said was false. Obviously there's not enough info to make a highly accurate guess out of anything.

      I don't know what to think. Isayama seems to flip back and forth between his good ending/bad ending ideas. I honestly can't even tell what route he'll take from chapter to chapter.

      Well, I just checked the timeline. Grisha inherits the Titan power and is found by Keith Shadis in 832, and he has Eren eat him in 845, which is exactly 13 years apart. He knew he was very short on time.

      Not saying I'm fond of this whole idea, but it seems Isayama is being consistent.

      One thing I'm uncertain of is when Zeke got his powers. If 13 years really is the limit, he must have gotten his at least 5 years after Grisha.

      If he decides to add in some hope for Eren and Armin to live, I'm sure people would complain some more about significant characters being saved, but hey, I wouldn't mind. Still, I'm betting all my money that almost all the main ones end up dead in the end. Mikasa included. Isayama's put her through enough trauma and mental anguish. I think that's more than enough for one character ._.;;

      And oddly, I still feel really strongly Armin is going to live. Normally. Maybe he and Hanji find a supposed cure. But after it's too late for everyone else. Even with Eldians freed it doesn't rid them of becoming Titans. Hasn't that always been the goal of the series? Humanity isn't really saved if Titans are still popping up and running amuck.

      On a positive note, there's another thing added to a list of things I'm eager to see. What the true history of the Eldians' is Kruger spoke of. I can't wait what else we'll uncover when we get to Ymir's letter and her history, The Ackerman mystery, and the Marley's enemy to the East. What changes will all that bring :) Ah, yes and when they actually get into Marley territory. What will happen.

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    • Since we're a bit further in the manga and have more insight maybe I can hear what you all thought of this. Back when Zeke and Eren first met face to face, Zeke told Eren that one day he was going to save him from it all. I thought, what? I thought they wanted Eren to be eaten?? How is that saving him? Saving him in death? That doesn't sound right. I didn't have an answer and chalked it up to me misinterpreting something. I still don't really have much of an answer for what Zeke meant by that. If any of you all have an idea of this, since we're a bit further in the story, I'd love to hear.

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    • @30325dh Zeke definitely knows that he has royal Fritz blood, considering how heavily his parents hammered their ideology into his head when he was young. I think Zeke might be aware of the loophole in the Coordinate where a non-royal can still make use of the Coordinate if a royal is touching them, like when Eren hit Dina's Titan hand and unlocked the Coordinate for a moment, or when Rod and Historia placed hands on Eren and unlocked his memories briefly.

      With this loophole, Zeke wouldn't have to eat Eren to make use of the Coordinate. I think he'll try to convince Eren to join his cause, though I'm sure Eren won't listen.

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    • 30325dh wrote:
      Since we're a bit further in the manga and have more insight maybe I can hear what you all thought of this. Back when Zeke and Eren first met face to face, Zeke told Eren that one day he was going to save him from it all. I thought, what? I thought they wanted Eren to be eaten?? How is that saving him? Saving him in death? That doesn't sound right. I didn't have an answer and chalked it up to me misinterpreting something. I still don't really have much of an answer for what Zeke meant by that. If any of you all have an idea of this, since we're a bit further in the story, I'd love to hear.

      might entice him to remove his power to keep his full life kind of like in naruto where they remove the tailed beast from them but instead they stay alivei n stead of dying then they remove th titans power and insert it to someone on their side

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    • man what a crazy chapter

      it just keeps getting better and better!

      just imagine what the final battle(s) will look like now that we know so much more about the attack on titan world

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    • 30325dh wrote: If he decides to add in some hope for Eren and Armin to live, I'm sure people would complain some more about significant characters being saved, but hey, I wouldn't mind. Still, I'm betting all my money that almost all the main ones end up dead in the end. Mikasa included. Isayama's put her through enough trauma and mental anguish. I think that's more than enough for one character ._.;;

      And oddly, I still feel really strongly Armin is going to live. Normally. Maybe he and Hanji find a supposed cure. But after it's too late for everyone else. Even with Eldians freed it doesn't rid them of becoming Titans. Hasn't that always been the goal of the series? Humanity isn't really saved if Titans are still popping up and running amuck.

      On a positive note, there's another thing added to a list of things I'm eager to see. What the true history of the Eldians' is Kruger spoke of. I can't wait what else we'll uncover when we get to Ymir's letter and her history, The Ackerman mystery, and the Marley's enemy to the East. What changes will all that bring :) Ah, yes and when they actually get into Marley territory. What will happen.

      Here's how I want the series to end:

      Armin is sitting at a desk in his home either writing down everything that's happened to him and his friends, or telling it to someone, perhaps his child (this would bring things full circle in the anime considering his VO actor is the narrator). Armin looks visibly aged, as he's reached the 13th year of his life after becoming a shifter and is passing on the knowledge before he dies. The final shot is him looking out his window at the ocean.

      At this point, I totally want something like that to wrap up the series.

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    • wait, wait, wait so lets say Eren dies without getting snacked on, does that mean his power goes to two newborns? Like how Ymir died and we got nine?

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    • CommonSwift wrote:
      wait, wait, wait so lets say Eren dies without getting snacked on, does that mean his power goes to two newborns? Like how Ymir died and we got nine?

      yea

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    • CommonSwift wrote: wait, wait, wait so lets say Eren dies without getting snacked on, does that mean his power goes to two newborns? Like how Ymir died and we got nine?

      Yep, it looks that way. Not sure why the magic number is 9 though.

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    • Wait a second.. so in that page that says "Without the Titan power Ymir was a pawn of the devil, but with it she was a god given-gift" (or something along those lines, can't recall it now) we can see that the Marleyans were "evil" all along... I mean, now we see that Ymir was opressed when she did the deal and she was trying to fight back, right? Differently from the version we saw earlier, that suggested that Ymir did the deal out of the blue (I guess that was the version the Marley wanted to be known, lol)...

      Anyway... am I right in my thoughts or did I miss something? Oh, and now we know that "The Devil" is the "source of all organic material"... interesting..

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    • CaptFredricks wrote:

      Here's how I want the series to end:

      Armin is sitting at a desk in his home either writing down everything that's happened to him and his friends, or telling it to someone, perhaps his child (this would bring things full circle in the anime considering his VO actor is the narrator). Armin looks visibly aged, as he's reached the 13th year of his life after becoming a shifter and is passing on the knowledge before he dies. The final shot is him looking out his window at the ocean.

      At this point, I totally want something like that to wrap up the series.

      I'd like an ironic ending where the world ruled by Titans becomes true just like what everyone thinks when the series start and a new generation of Survey Corp rise to claim their freedom from the Titans

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    • Erdagon wrote:
      CaptFredricks wrote:

      Here's how I want the series to end:

      Armin is sitting at a desk in his home either writing down everything that's happened to him and his friends, or telling it to someone, perhaps his child (this would bring things full circle in the anime considering his VO actor is the narrator). Armin looks visibly aged, as he's reached the 13th year of his life after becoming a shifter and is passing on the knowledge before he dies. The final shot is him looking out his window at the ocean.

      At this point, I totally want something like that to wrap up the series.

      I'd like an ironic ending where the world ruled by Titans becomes true just like what everyone thinks when the series start and a new generation of Survey Corp rise to claim their freedom from the Titans

      That reminds me of some other anime.. What could it be? I like the idea though

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    • LOWKEY0 wrote:
      Erdagon wrote:
      CaptFredricks wrote:

      Here's how I want the series to end:

      Armin is sitting at a desk in his home either writing down everything that's happened to him and his friends, or telling it to someone, perhaps his child (this would bring things full circle in the anime considering his VO actor is the narrator). Armin looks visibly aged, as he's reached the 13th year of his life after becoming a shifter and is passing on the knowledge before he dies. The final shot is him looking out his window at the ocean.

      At this point, I totally want something like that to wrap up the series.

      I'd like an ironic ending where the world ruled by Titans becomes true just like what everyone thinks when the series start and a new generation of Survey Corp rise to claim their freedom from the Titans
      That reminds me of some other anime.. What could it be? I like the idea though

      Actually it isn't so creative and I probably saying it because I am disappointed by "humanity are never extict but thriving instead". I've always want to see how humanity ends an apocalypse

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    • Wow, so the 13 year rule decisively explains multiple things.

      1: It explains why Grisha gave Eren the titan power instead of just taking care of business himself.

      2: Also explains that once Eren checks out, Jean is going to have an opening with Mikasa. Just saying.

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    • ""humanity are never extict but thriving instead". I've always want to see how humanity ends an apocalypse"

      I mean, let's be real. What if the homeland had been a small village instead with some titan shifters and the rest of the world was ruled by dumb dumbs? 

      Think about it, how many possible outcomes are there to this premise?

      1: Everyone dies and dumb dumbs walk the Earth until the day the sun explodes.

      2: They kill off all the dumb dumbs somehow and repopulate the Earth; the end.

      I mean, the reason people don't make a straight, how humanity ends an apocalypse play out is because it's a rather narrow and boring premise. Good writing can make it an enjoyable ride but it's just, if your only opponent is something of an equivalent of a force of nature then there aren't many ways you can take it. Am I wrong?

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    • Ok, we all agree the live action movie sucks but we can tell that Isayama didn't reveal all his cards to that movie's screenwriters because, as we can see now, the 13 year rule is in sharp contrast to the live action movie's implication that a titan shifter would "live forever". 

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    • Eradicate Us wrote:
      So Eren's life has been shortened severely, as has Armin's, 

      EH! I would argue it has actually been extended significantly. 13 years is still a much longer time than when his remaining lifespan could be practically measured in seconds or minutes at best. 

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    • Tausendberg wrote:
      ""humanity are never extict but thriving instead". I've always want to see how humanity ends an apocalypse"

      I mean, let's be real. What if the homeland had been a small village instead with some titan shifters and the rest of the world was ruled by dumb dumbs? 

      Think about it, how many possible outcomes are there to this premise?

      1: Everyone dies and dumb dumbs walk the Earth until the day the sun explodes.

      2: They kill off all the dumb dumbs somehow and repopulate the Earth; the end.

      I mean, the reason people don't make a straight, how humanity ends an apocalypse play out is because it's a rather narrow and boring premise. Good writing can make it an enjoyable ride but it's just, if your only opponent is something of an equivalent of a force of nature then there aren't many ways you can take it. Am I wrong?

      You forgot one

      3. They cure the dumb dumbs

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    • SkeletonTitan wrote:
      The Coordinate is like a big server.

      The Coordinate isn't like a big truck. It's like a series of tubes...

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    • But seriously, now that I think about it, Maybe Eren will find a way, since he holds the coordinate/"the point that every path passes through". I mean, if this... network... really has a single hub that every single possible action has to pass through or else it won't occur, then breaking the hub, making information and material unable to pass through this coordinate anymore, will break the entire network and stop all of these forces from occurring. 

      So, we don't know how it's possible, but I'm calling it right now, somehow, someday, Eren is going to destroy the coordinate and consequently end the story on the note of ending the premise of the series.

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    • CommonSwift wrote:

      You forgot one

      3. They cure the dumb dumbs

      You're right, I should've said kill or neutralize the dumb dumbs which is already a premise that has been explored in various zombie-related media, basically saving humanity by curing the zombies. Which, if you think about it, dumb dumb titans are in many ways just giant zombies. 

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    • Really, if you think about it, it's only ethical to give a titan shifter power to someone who is significantly past middle age. Grisha should have seriously considered giving Keith the power because if nothing changes, Eren is a goner by his early 30s while Keith would have made it to what appears to be at least his 60s.

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    • Erdagon wrote:
      Poor Mikasa, she's going to lose her whole family again... :(

      By the way, what is the "path". I don't buy Grisha's babbling saying it magic stuff, there must be some explanation to it

      Something something quantum entanglement.

      Also, bully on you guys for starting so early without me, :p

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    • CaptFredricks wrote:

      30325dh wrote: If he decides to add in some hope for Eren and Armin to live, I'm sure people would complain some more about significant characters being saved, but hey, I wouldn't mind. Still, I'm betting all my money that almost all the main ones end up dead in the end. Mikasa included. Isayama's put her through enough trauma and mental anguish. I think that's more than enough for one character ._.;;

      And oddly, I still feel really strongly Armin is going to live. Normally. Maybe he and Hanji find a supposed cure. But after it's too late for everyone else. Even with Eldians freed it doesn't rid them of becoming Titans. Hasn't that always been the goal of the series? Humanity isn't really saved if Titans are still popping up and running amuck.

      On a positive note, there's another thing added to a list of things I'm eager to see. What the true history of the Eldians' is Kruger spoke of. I can't wait what else we'll uncover when we get to Ymir's letter and her history, The Ackerman mystery, and the Marley's enemy to the East. What changes will all that bring :) Ah, yes and when they actually get into Marley territory. What will happen.

      Here's how I want the series to end:

      Armin is sitting at a desk in his home either writing down everything that's happened to him and his friends, or telling it to someone, perhaps his child (this would bring things full circle in the anime considering his VO actor is the narrator). Armin looks visibly aged, as he's reached the 13th year of his life after becoming a shifter and is passing on the knowledge before he dies. The final shot is him looking out his window at the ocean.

      At this point, I totally want something like that to wrap up the series.

      Yep, I can see that as well. Whether Armin lives or dies later, I feel he'd be the only one left alive at the end. The series would end with him and if the curse stays he'd have an off screen death.

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    • I am now thinking Zeke is going to have to join Eren at some point. To help him use the coordinate since he is of royal blood. What kind of future does he have with the Marley rule? Nothing really. Sure he and his family members get full rights but for how long? The Titan shifter dies after 13 years. Basically they're still condemning these Eldian warriors to death. Does he really think they'd be this merciful to the Eldian warriors forever? They're so full of hate what do they do to the family members once the warrior dies? Really, it's just another way to finish killing off the Eldians wrapped in a pretty package for them.

      Eren and the rest of his comrades have to find a way to make Zeke see the truth of it all. They're being used and still being killed off in the end. He and the rest of his warriors would have a much better future for at least how much longer they have. Their families too.

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    • I don't know guys, but seeing this has given a new insight in what will be the future in the series. I mean, if they manage to end things and "eradicate" the titans like Eren wanted in the beggining then they will have the purpose of finding a way to remove the "death curse" and it has to be before the 8 years Eren has left.

      That reminded me of Dragon Age and the search of The Warden for a cure of the Blight, not that is related, but it feels that way.

      Anyway, how do you think this series will end? A good ending, the fatalist ending or a bad ending?

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    • 30325dh wrote:
      I am now thinking Zeke is going to have to join Eren at some point. To help him use the coordinate since he is of royal blood. What kind of future does he have with the Marley rule? Nothing really. Sure he and his family members get full rights but for how long? The Titan shifter dies after 13 years. Basically they're still condemning these Eldian warriors to death. Does he really think they'd be this merciful to the Eldian warriors forever? They're so full of hate what do they do to the family members once the warrior dies? Really, it's just another way to finish killing off the Eldians wrapped in a pretty package for them.

      Eren and the rest of his comrades have to find a way to make Zeke see the truth of it all. They're being used and still being killed off in the end. He and the rest of his warriors would have a much better future for at least how much longer they have. Their families too.

      ^ This. Well put. I couldn't have said it better myself. I could totally see Zeke joining the side Eren's on happening for the same reasons, and all the other titan shifters could join as well. Plus, Zeke's royal blood could help Eren use the Coordinate. Historia's also of royal blood, but it would obviously be more logical for the "Queen Of The Walls" to stay away from all the fighting.

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    • DDerMeister wrote:
      I don't know guys, but seeing this has given a new insight in what will be the future in the series. I mean, if they manage to end things and "eradicate" the titans like Eren wanted in the beggining then they will have the purpose of finding a way to remove the "death curse" and it has to be before the 8 years Eren has left.

      That reminded me of Dragon Age and the search of The Warden for a cure of the Blight, not that is related, but it feels that way.

      Anyway, how do you think this series will end? A good ending, the fatalist ending or a bad ending?

      I think the ending will be bittersweet at the very least. I can see the good guys ultimately winning in the end, and humanity being saved and freed. The death curse really needs to be destroyed as well so that it can't claim any more lives either, so I'm assuming they'll find a way to get that done, or at least I hope. But we can still expect more death and sacrifices for this to happen, especially for the titan shifters unless they can also escape the death curse by losing the powers completely. But I definitely do see some hope that not everyone will die. In particular, Historia is Queen of the Walls, so she should be away from the fighting. She also has no titan shifter powers. Plus, a promise was made to Ymir that she'd be saved, so hopefully she survives.

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    • Tausendberg wrote:
      Wow, so the 13 year rule decisively explains multiple things.

      1: It explains why Grisha gave Eren the titan power instead of just taking care of business himself.

      2: Also explains that once Eren checks out, Jean is going to have an opening with Mikasa. Just saying.

      Eh, I doubt that second point is happening. I think he's moved on by this point regardless of what happens with Eren.

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    • Thanks! I hope to see Zeke and the others join forces with the Survey Corps. They may not like it but it's what they have to do for all of their freedom.

      And yes, I'm 100% sure Historia will be kept alive by the end. What purpose would killing her be? And as for Jean and Mikasa, IF Eren dies, IF Mikasa is still alive as well, I agree with sentinel that Jean is more or less over her. If Eren dies and Mikasa does live, I don't see her ever getting completely over Eren and loving anyone else. I see her turning into some lone bad ass soldier wandering the lands continuing to fight to keep the Eldians' peace. Or you know, the same but as captain of her own squad. But still very much married to her work. Pretty much like a female version of Levi.

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    • Hello everyone sorry for not commenting on the previous chapter i was watching the election.

      8 years for our hero and an unlucky 13 for poor armin. Eren Kruger did some good deeds but he thought they were evil. Sometimes the the tree of freedom must be watered with blood of evil and patriots. He certainly did better than Freddy Kruger.  But this brings me to this questions how many years does ZEKE have left? How many years does Reiner have left? or Ymir. I personally don't think Hajime will kill eren but this recent election taught me somthing: Never trust predictions and there will be surprises I do see the reasoning why Hajime would kill off Eren. Thing is I'm going to keep that as my own mystery. I'm waiting to see if the Ymir we know is the Ymir in the story of dealing with the devil. What does Ymir know and when did she know it? I will wait and see what Hajime has in store for us 


      Until then have a very Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year

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    • 30325dh wrote: Thanks! I hope to see Zeke and the others join forces with the Survey Corps. They may not like it but it's what they have to do for all of their freedom.

      And yes, I'm 100% sure Historia will be kept alive by the end. What purpose would killing her be? And as for Jean and Mikasa, IF Eren dies, IF Mikasa is still alive as well, I agree with sentinel that Jean is more or less over her. If Eren dies and Mikasa does live, I don't see her ever getting completely over Eren and loving anyone else. I see her turning into some lone bad ass soldier wandering the lands continuing to fight to keep the Eldians' peace. Or you know, the same but as captain of her own squad. But still very much married to her work. Pretty much like a female version of Levi.

      Amen to that. There should be at least one or a few survivors even among the fighters. And I could certainly see Mikasa, who also isn't a shifter and is also still a badass even without it, being another one of them, and I hope she has good luck with that too.

      And yeah, Mikasa x Jean shouldn't be expected to just magically happen even if Eren x Mikasa can't because of Eren dying and Mikasa and Jean are left still alive. Mikasa never liked Jean like that, and them ending up together would be like an asspole that wouldn't really do any favors. Mikasa x Armin would even be more logical than Mikasa x Jean, but I don't even expect that, and Armin also has that death sentence. If anything, with Eren (and also Armin to a slightly lesser extent) gone, I could see her being so depressed and not even wanting to have much of anything to do with anyone. Or your idea of her being a lone badass soldier or captain of her own squad could certainly happen as well. If she can somehow move forward from the loss of Eren and Armin, all the better for her, and she'd also be setting a great example of moving forward from loss no matter how painful it is.

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    • I don't think Mikasa will be one of the main characters anymore, she is living and fighting for Eren and now that we all know Eren will die she have nothing to live for anymore, she is my favourite character but i think of her importance at the beginnig more than now, she is not contributing to the development of the story as other characters do, what do you all think about that ?

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    • Joannemik wrote:
      I don't think Mikasa will be one of the main characters anymore, she is living and fighting for Eren and now that we all know Eren will die she have nothing to live for anymore, she is my favourite character but i think of her importance at the beginnig more than now, she is not contributing to the development of the story as other characters do, what do you all think about that ?

      well there was this scene where mikasa almost died but she said for herself that when she dies that she will no be able to remember eren anymore and that she will fight whatever it takes to survive even if eren dies...

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    • Eradicate Us wrote:
      DDerMeister wrote:
      I don't know guys, but seeing this has given a new insight in what will be the future in the series. I mean, if they manage to end things and "eradicate" the titans like Eren wanted in the beggining then they will have the purpose of finding a way to remove the "death curse" and it has to be before the 8 years Eren has left.

      That reminded me of Dragon Age and the search of The Warden for a cure of the Blight, not that is related, but it feels that way.

      Anyway, how do you think this series will end? A good ending, the fatalist ending or a bad ending?

      I think the ending will be bittersweet at the very least. I can see the good guys ultimately winning in the end, and humanity being saved and freed. The death curse really needs to be destroyed as well so that it can't claim any more lives either, so I'm assuming they'll find a way to get that done, or at least I hope. But we can still expect more death and sacrifices for this to happen, especially for the titan shifters unless they can also escape the death curse by losing the powers completely. But I definitely do see some hope that not everyone will die. In particular, Historia is Queen of the Walls, so she should be away from the fighting. She also has no titan shifter powers. Plus, a promise was made to Ymir that she'd be saved, so hopefully she survives.

      Well, I see your point and I agree. We have two years of story to see the development of the curse and the possible paths the manga will take. Who knows, maybe they will find something more in the books... there is always a possibility as we can't tell that everything is lost after this chapter.

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    • It seems to me that the Reiss family found a way around the 13 year limit.  Because there is no way that the Coordinate was passed on to subsequent members of the family in just a 13 year time frame.

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    • This is getting interesting (well, it already was). 10/10.

      I'm still seriously wondering where Zeke and Reiner went. It can't be too long now until we seem Annie either.

      As for the 13 year limit of becoming a titan shifter.. well... that was a surprise for sure.

      After Eren and Armin go, Mikasa will be alone. I wonder who'd comfort her...

      Also, who else thought that the shot of Keith Shadis looked like Marlow Freudenberg? o.o

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    • Gavin The Otter wrote:
      This is getting interesting (well, it already was). 10/10.

      I'm still seriously wondering where Zeke and Reiner went. It can't be too long now until we seem Annie either.

      As for the 13 year limit of becoming a titan shifter.. well... that was a surprise for sure.

      After Eren and Armin go, Mikasa will be alone. I wonder who'd comfort her...

      Also, who else thought that the shot of Keith Shadis looked like Marlow Freudenberg? o.o

      I hope we will see how Reiner will react to Bertolt's death soon lol

      this is also the perfect time to bring Annie back

      I wonder how she will be freed though


      Jean would finally be able to make his move on Mikasa with Eren and Armin out of the way XD


      and I kinda thought so too, it took me a while to realize it was Keith

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    • This story makes no freaking sense.


      Also, thirteen years to live for Titan Shifters. What. The. F**k?

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    • Fire Eater wrote: This story makes no freaking sense.


      Also, thirteen years to live for Titan Shifters. What. The. F**k?

      I actually like the ambiguity we've seen in the past couple chapters. I really don't need all the answers (part of the fun of this series for me is the mystery). For example, I enjoy the conflicting accounts of the origin Ymir Fritz's abilities and personally hope they don't answer it. Let the mystery remain for fans to interpret for themselves.

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    • Fire Eater wrote: This story makes no freaking sense.


      Also, thirteen years to live for Titan Shifters. What. The. F**k?

      What part of it do you find confusing?

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    • 13-years lifespan? Come on! It just a big fat lie. As I read, only Ymir is the only one that died by this lifespan, so maybe other shifters miscalculated Ymir's lifespan? Other shifters died because they needed to transfer their power to their chosen people, not died because of lifespan, before 13 years lifespan ran out so the Coordinate didn't have to transfer the powers to random people. They never tested the lifespan.. so.. yeah.

      Also is the total of Titan shifters must be 9? If it doesn't have to be 9 then now there're 8 Titan shifters. What if the ending is that someone ate all other shifters so that there's only 1 Titan shifter  left, and then somehow destroy himself/herself to void so there's no more Titan shifter? Damn.

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    • Ortimh wrote:

      Also is the total of Titan shifters must be 9? If it doesn't have to be 9 then now there're 8 Titan shifters. What if the ending is that someone ate all other shifters so that there's only 1 Titan shifter  left, and then somehow destroy himself/herself to void so there's no more Titan shifter? Damn.

      Titan powers are 9 in total but there are 8 shifters since Eren possess 2 Titan powers now. One shifter eating all other shifters then ending themselves wouldn't work because the Titan powers will be reborn inside random Subject of Ymir newborn babies.

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    • And then it will probably split in 9 again.

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    • there is always a Loophole.  if Ymir really made a deal with the devil then maybe Eren can make a deal with God or a god or something. 


      another option is that its not really a life span but that overuse of the actual shifting is what kills them. i could totally see it turning out that previous generations just didn't have the know how to change it. maybe grisha figured away to reverse the process and it simply hasn't been revealed yet. 

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    • There was 3 books, remember? I think we only have gone through one of them, so there must be more that'll be revealed.

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    • SkeletonTitan wrote:
      There was 3 books, remember? I think we only have gone through one of them, so there must be more that'll be revealed.

      No please too much flashbacks!

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    • SkeletonTitan wrote:
      There was 3 books, remember? I think we only have gone through one of them, so there must be more that'll be revealed.

      I'm pretty sure we're done now, we know what happens next, Grisha eats Kruger and he runs to the walls where he's found by Keith, if there is any information from what Grisha wrote in his books then Eren will just mention it when appropriate instead of having a whole flashback of it. The only flashback left I want to to see are the warriors during their training in Marley when they were kids.

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    • Jaegermeister Braun wrote:

      SkeletonTitan wrote:
      There was 3 books, remember? I think we only have gone through one of them, so there must be more that'll be revealed.

      I'm pretty sure we're done now, we know what happens next, Grisha eats Kruger and he runs to the walls where he's found by Keith, if there is any information from what Grisha wrote in his books then Eren will just mention it when appropriate instead of having a whole flashback of it. The only flashback left I want to to see are the warriors during their training in Marley when they were kids.

      I too. That would be interesting as well. But there's no way that the flashbacks about Grisha are written in all three books. What could the other two be about? There is not much more to know about the Titans (at least not enough to fill book, and I doubt Grisha knows that much). Maybe Grisha also documented his life inside the Walls.

      By the way, as a father, how could Grisha just leave Zeke? I know he couldn't go back, but how can a father just leave his son to the enemies? At least he could've used his Titan and bring his son with him to the Walls.

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    • One thing I'm really curious about. When Kodansha inevitably translates this chapter for the graphic novels and when this chapter eventually becomes an anime episode (done by FUNimation presumbably), I wonder if they'll go with the "Attack Titan" name as has been translated so far, or will they try to keep the meaning with the series title and name Eren's Titan the "Attack on Titan".

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    • Sentinel00 wrote:
      One thing I'm really curious about. When Kodansha inevitably translates this chapter for the graphic novels and when this chapter eventually becomes an anime episode (done by FUNimation presumbably), I wonder if they'll go with the "Attack Titan" name as has been translated so far, or will they try to keep the meaning with the series title and name Eren's Titan the "Attack on Titan".


      I think they will go with The Advancing Titan, cause it sounds better.

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    • CommonSwift wrote:

      Sentinel00 wrote:
      One thing I'm really curious about. When Kodansha inevitably translates this chapter for the graphic novels and when this chapter eventually becomes an anime episode (done by FUNimation presumbably), I wonder if they'll go with the "Attack Titan" name as has been translated so far, or will they try to keep the meaning with the series title and name Eren's Titan the "Attack on Titan".


      I think they will go with The Advancing Titan, cause it sounds better.

      I prefer the "Rogue Titan".

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    • CaptFredricks wrote:

      CommonSwift wrote:

      Sentinel00 wrote:
      One thing I'm really curious about. When Kodansha inevitably translates this chapter for the graphic novels and when this chapter eventually becomes an anime episode (done by FUNimation presumbably), I wonder if they'll go with the "Attack Titan" name as has been translated so far, or will they try to keep the meaning with the series title and name Eren's Titan the "Attack on Titan".

      I think they will go with The Advancing Titan, cause it sounds better.
      I prefer the "Rogue Titan".

      So does everyone else in the community

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    • So this series' title is a misunderstanding or did Isayama tell his intention toward the title?

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    • Ortimh wrote:
      So this series' title is a misunderstanding or did Isayama tell his intention toward the title?

      Isayama decided to call the English translation of Shingeki no Kyojin to Attack on Titan to most likely hide the name drop. Here's a link which explains it a bit better http://fuku-shuu.tumblr.com/post/154192351787/a-translators-thought-on-the-series-title

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    • SkeletonTitan wrote:

      By the way, as a father, how could Grisha just leave Zeke? I know he couldn't go back, but how can a father just leave his son to the enemies? At least he could've used his Titan and bring his son with him to the Walls.

      Grisha didn't get his titan shifting ability after reaching Paradis and I'm sure he'd want to find him if he could've but as soon as he and the other restorationists were discovered he was immediately captured, tortured then sent to Paradis so there was no time or capability to find him

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    • Jaegermeister Braun wrote:

      SkeletonTitan wrote:

      By the way, as a father, how could Grisha just leave Zeke? I know he couldn't go back, but how can a father just leave his son to the enemies? At least he could've used his Titan and bring his son with him to the Walls.

      Grisha didn't get his titan shifting ability after reaching Paradis and I'm sure he'd want to find him if he could've but as soon as he and the other restorationists were discovered he was immediately captured, tortured then sent to Paradis so there was no time or capability to find him

      I know that. I mean AFTER he got his shifting ability. He didn't go back for his son. He just stayed in Paradis until he died.

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    • SkeletonTitan wrote:

      I know that. I mean AFTER he got his shifting ability. He didn't go back for his son. He just stayed in Paradis until he died.

      There's no way off the island as far as we know, Kruger destroyed the ship that got them there and titans can't swim across large bodies of water 

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    • Anyone else kind of annoyed by the fact that Eren is only remembering these memories now and not before the Survey Corps had been reduced to a small fraction? Just saying.

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    • Tausendberg wrote:
      Anyone else kind of annoyed by the fact that Eren is only remembering these memories now and not before the Survey Corps had been reduced to a small fraction? Just saying.

      It's the books, they must've triggered his father's memories in him.

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    • Hahahaha, yes, of course, Eren would not be able to access the memories that are in the books no sooner than the moment at which he gets access to the books. #Helpful

      Have to admit, as far as superpowers go, the ability to access memories only after you have acquired a written copy of all of the information in those memories seems pretty underwhelming. I guess it can be useful for verifying the authenticity of those memories.

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    • So anyway, one of the questions now is if Isayama basically just signalled that he gave Eren 8 years of plot armor.

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    • Also worth pointing out that the exact manner in which Grisha killed the Reiss family resembled the way The Owl killed the soldiers.

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    • Tausendberg wrote:
      Also worth pointing out that the exact manner in which Grisha killed the Reiss family resembled the way The Owl killed the soldiers.

      And it's ironic that it was the same Titan.

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    • SkeletonTitan wrote:

      Tausendberg wrote:
      Also worth pointing out that the exact manner in which Grisha killed the Reiss family resembled the way The Owl killed the soldiers.

      And it's ironic that it was the same Titan.

      And it doesn't stop there either. In both instances, the person who did the killing passed their powers onto someone else like immediate after, dying in the process.

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    • This Titan has always been seen making massacres. We see Kruger killing everyone with it, as does Grisha with the Reiss family, and Eren does the same to the Titans.

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    • A throught just came to me, when Grisha fought Frieda I always assumed he won because he was an experienced Shifter but now we find out he only shifted twice in his whole life so he was a noob to it like Frieda.

      If Frieda was the strongest titan alive and they both were at the same level of skill....How the crap did Grisha win?

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    • CommonSwift wrote:

      If Frieda was the strongest titan alive and they both were at the same level of skill....How the crap did Grisha win?

      I guess that would mean Frieda was even less experienced than Grisha. Rod watched them fight, and he believed that Frieda was unable to unleash her true abilities due to lacking experience.

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    • CommonSwift wrote:
      A throught just came to me, when Grisha fought Frieda I always assumed he won because he was an experienced Shifter but now we find out he only shifted twice in his whole life so he was a noob to it like Frieda.

      If Frieda was the strongest titan alive and they both were at the same level of skill....How the crap did Grisha win?

      That beats me too. Eren didn't even have control over his Titan the second time, which Grisha seemed to have. And besides, if Kruger told Grisha that self injury and a goal in mind is required to shift (which I hope he did), how could it work just fine for him the first time? And how did he make it to the Walls without being attacked by lots of Titans? Even so, how was he supposed to get inside? He was just lucky that the Survey Corps was on an expedition the same day.

      And too bad we didn't see his mindless Titan form. :(

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    • I kinda wanna see how the aftermath of the Shiganshina battle turned out with the reconstruction of Wall Maria and the current status of the Survey Corp and everyone around it.

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    • AhmedHadi1 wrote:
      Ortimh wrote:

      Also is the total of Titan shifters must be 9? If it doesn't have to be 9 then now there're 8 Titan shifters. What if the ending is that someone ate all other shifters so that there's only 1 Titan shifter  left, and then somehow destroy himself/herself to void so there's no more Titan shifter? Damn.

      Titan powers are 9 in total but there are 8 shifters since Eren possess 2 Titan powers now. One shifter eating all other shifters then ending themselves wouldn't work because the Titan powers will be reborn inside random Subject of Ymir newborn babies.

      Actually, I've been thinking about the implications of this for awhile now. Does Eren possess 2 Titan powers? I'm inclined to think that he doesn't...I think there is a child out there with Freida's shifting ability. There isn't really any evidence to support this, other than the Highlander-esque, "There must always be 9" theme that Krueger introduced us to. Krueger never said what happens when a shifter eats another shifter and the rules could be totally different. 

      MAYBE Eren does have two...and MAYBE he will gather up all 9 powers, which might let him do something (like send himself back in time to his younger self so he can try and change the way things turned out). Which I imagine he would want to do...considering consuming all 9 powers puts Armin in the crosshairs.

      I think it's more likely that the 9th power is now in-the-wind. Which would be a huge game changer if the Corp could gain a third shifter. The progenitor titan, which has always been associated with the coordinate, no longer has the coordinate...Eren does. Who knows...

      Althought, One thing I cant really figure out - if an infant gets a power...do they suddenly drop dead at 13? would they even know that they have the power before they die? Does that mean that the government could locate a five year old child that is having these really weird nightmares about Titans (which are acutally memories from Frieda)? If they find the kid who has it, could they teach them how to use it...or would the get someone to eat the kid and gain that 9th power? That would be a really interesting story arc. 

      Either way, I don't think we are done with the revelations. You have to imagine that Grisha was experimenting on himself down there in the basement, especially given what Krueger said to him about doctors being really good hosts for the power. I imagine we are going to learn more from him, Armin (through Bertholt's memories), and Eren once he begins to unlock more of the coordinate. There might be some sort of uber end game involving the 9 powers.

      Who knows?

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    • WHOOOAA! I just realized something, Annie, in episode 16, asks Connie, "tell me something, if somebody ordered you to die, would you do it?"

      At the time, it just looks like she's commenting on the futility of self-sacrifice but now we see there's this whole other subtext where, presuming she got the curse of Ymir before she was 10, she knows she's going to die in her early 20s and so now we see that what she posed as her cover story, that she just wanted to be a selfish person who would take care of themselves, has a bittersweet irony because we now see that that is truly something she can never ever have.

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    • Tausendberg wrote: WHOOOAA! I just realized something, Annie, in episode 16, asks Connie, "tell me something, if somebody ordered you to die, would you do it?"

      At the time, it just looks like she's commenting on the futility of self-sacrifice but now we see there's this whole other subtext where, presuming she got the curse of Ymir before she was 10, she knows she's going to die in her early 20s and so now we see that what she posed as her cover story, that she just wanted to be a selfish person who would take care of themselves, has a bittersweet irony because we now see that that is truly something she can never ever have.

      I think she just quoted what Erwin said earlier on the ceremony.

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      Bad timing.
      07:12, April 3, 2018
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