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    Eren immortal?

    I’m kinda all over the place between the anime and the manga. I watched the first season then started reading up what was on the wiki and then I found a website where I’ve started reading the manga, but I skipped to issue 85 because I wanted to know what was in the f***ing basement. But from what I know, holt s***! But the one thing that is driving me crazy is the revelation that Krueger somehow knew about Mikasa and Armin even though they haven't been born yet. Not only that he be specifically instructed Grisha to save them espeically out of everyone he entrusted him with protecting. Even more creepy is he didn't even know whose memories he was seeing. I think somehow Eren Krueger is actually Eren Yeager in a past life.

    Armin enthusiastically speaks about seeing the ocean

    Maybe this friendship didn't happen by chance? What if Eren was somehow the cause of his own encounter with Armin and Mikasa?

    There is a striking resemblance between both Erens as children and even the adult Eren kinda resembles what an older version of teenage Eren could be. Even their Titan forms are similar in appearance. In the first issue of the manga Eren wakes up from a nightmare he doesn’t remember and in the anime it’s shown that he’s having nightmares of his mother’s death, among other things, before it actually happens. Then in the flashbacks Kreuger tells Grisha to protect Armin and Mikasa but then admits he doesn’t know whose memories he’s seeing. I think Eren somehow has the power to see the future and if Kreuger is him in a past life I think he was seeing the memories of his own future life as Grisha’s son. Through this Eren indirectly laid the foundation for his next life by telling Grisha to find and protect the two people who would be most important to him. I also think that's why Grisha took Eren with him to meet Mikasa the day her parents were killed because Eren had met Armin prior to that he realized that Kreuger's words were coming true, and wanted to make sure Mikasa was involved in Eren’s life too. Hell this may be why Grisha named his son after him.

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    I think also gives deeper meaning to Eren’s driving goal of escaping the Walls and into the world beyond and to free humanity of the Titans' reign of terror. Maybe this is because he has memories of his life as Eren Kreuger buried deep down and they’re influencing his decisions as Eren Yeager. I think Eren deep down already knows that Titans are Marley’s way of punishing Marley-Eldians, and for keeping Wall-Eldians in their place. To this end I think his absolute hatred for the Titans and thirst for freedom is really his hatred towards Marley for keeping the Eldian people oppressed for so long and for what they turn them into. It could also be all the horrific crap Marley made him do while he was pretending to be one of them. 

    Just a theory and maybe a stretch but I cannot figure out how else Kreuger could know about Mikasa and Armim.

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    • I can actually see Eren being the reincarnated form of Kreuger, given how many plot twists this series has given us so far

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    • Eobard95 wrote:

      Just a theory and maybe a stretch but I cannot figure out how else Kreuger could know about Mikasa and Armim.

      Kruger recognizes that he doesn't know who Armin and Mikasa are and that they're someone else's memories, but he also discusses a connection that exists between all Eldians. Considering that Eren recalls his father's memories and even Frieda's memories from time to time, it's possible that any memory overlap is simply through being connected by the Attack Titan.

      The message Kruger has about protecting Mikasa and Armin is strikingly similar to what Grisha tells Eren when he injects him as a kid.  Kruger has no context when he says it, but Grisha does, so Kruger is probably pulling those words from the shared "invisible paths" that all Eldians have. I read Kruger's musing as a call forward to what Grisha would eventually say, because he knows subconsciously those words are/will be important to him.  Heck, they're among the last things Grisha ever says.

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    • So did Grisha named his son "Eren" out of respect for Kruger? Or is there something else going on behind the scenes?

      Plot twist.

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    • I think he was just name after him by his father. Due to the course of Ymir I doubt he live that long.

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    • I believe that the invisible paths that connect Eldians are supposed to traverse time itself, going both forwards and backwards. The forwards component is clearly much weaker since visions of the future seem to be rarer, and if they were more common I expect many of the disasters that occured for Eldia would have been avoided. But that there is a connection between Eren Kruger and Eren Jager that goes beyond the Attack Titan might explain Eren's ability to see visions of the future as child before receiving the Attack Titan, as that is a point that's been nagging at me.

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    • It's like eren yeager doppelganger. But we don't know it yet maybe the titan serum has to do with it.

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    • Given the amount of references AoT has to Norse Folklore and Mythology, it wouldn't surprise me. Old Norse people used to believe that when a baby was named after someone else, that baby was the reincarnation of the deseased person with the same name. It had a name, I can't remember it though, but it was something like "reincarnation through naming".

      The same could apply to Ymir. Although she was named long after she was born.

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    • The Lord of Silence wrote:
      I believe that the invisible paths that connect Eldians are supposed to traverse time itself, going both forwards and backwards. The forwards component is clearly much weaker since visions of the future seem to be rarer, and if they were more common I expect many of the disasters that occured for Eldia would have been avoided. But that there is a connection between Eren Kruger and Eren Jager that goes beyond the Attack Titan might explain Eren's ability to see visions of the future as child before receiving the Attack Titan, as that is a point that's been nagging at me.

      If this is true, and it is possible to see the "memories" of future incarnations of the Attack Titan--and by extension any of the original Nine Titans--before they are made by the carriers themselves, then wouldn't that suggest that the Titans' paths are all fixed, and everyone who inherits their powers is just a Cosmic Plaything under the illusion of free will?

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    • The first picture is eren himself, he grew up (there was a timeskip) Eren lives under the name Krueger at Marley he also figured out how to controll his powers right.

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    • Ahh so, if it is Eren (timeskip) then he actually met his grandfather. Unknowingly, but I don't think its either side, he must've got a clue when they introduced.  Btw, I doubt it a little bit because of how the way this Eren Kruger talk. Well, set aside I'm happy I figured out this Eren's identity. I didn't see the timeskip caution afterall.

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    • I have found the cure for the Curse of Ymir according to my theory . The devil that met Ymir is the cure and if the devil dies , then the power of the titans including 13 year lifespan will be gone back to where it belongs . I believe that this will be the end of Attack on Titan series and I have planned a tribute long time ago .

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    • I've been wondering, Why did the Founding Titan form that the Fritz/Reiss family have go only thirteen years, is it because they didnt want to lose the Titan Form but what if since if whoever has the FT form lives more than 13 years then that should/could add to the others lives. Maybe? Why does it only include just the original's lifespan?

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    • The curse lasts 13 years because Ymir had her powers for 13 before dying and giving her power to 9 inheritors, for whatever reason, since Ymir was basically a god in material form and nobody can be more powerful than her.

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    • I read about a titan from Greek Mythology named Prometheus (he shaped man and gave them fire). Supposedly, he had the ability to take glimpses into the future and could make his decisions based on them. Maybe the Attack Titan could do the same thing before something insanely life-changing happens before the shifter? Kruger mentioned Mikasa and Armin before he was going to pass on the power and Eren had the nightmare before Maria was breached. Then again, all Eldians are supposedly connected by "paths" that traverse time and space, so maybe shifters can have extremely rare glipses of memories from the future.

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    • I think maybe these genetically inherited memories can also be shared and or connected both ways across time. As in separation of time periods doesn’t effect them. It’s like a bridge. It goes both ways. Though one end isn’t as receptive as the other it goes both ways. Not only can memories be passed downward but the memories of the newer generation can also be leaked back to the older one. Like some time linking mailbox or whatever in the form of a genetic memory exchanging connection. I mean hey. Eren memories were unlocked through touch. So this wouldn’t be to far fetched.

      For the loop thing. I think he could easily be talking about how when people don’t learn from history they are doomed to repeat it. Eren despite trying to make a difference. Due to his violent and flawed approaches. He’s being no better. He speaks of others being slaves, but he is just following the same flow of misery just in his own style. Mikasa and Armin are the key to breaking him free and saving his soul.

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    • This Is what I think, I think it's very possible, because he saw Armin and Mikasa! I think that's why Eren pushed ARMIN AND MIKASA away to protect them, its just a theory but, Eren is the type to do that, but than again Eren had always saved and protected them in anyway he could, when he said Mikasa was a slave he did tear up, its possible whatever his planning is just to dangerous o bring them into it.

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    • i dunno but i think that the whole issue about Kruger knowing about Armin and Mikasa has something to do with the Paths. From what we know so far about the Paths is that it is a way that the Eldians are connected to each other and Ymir via invisible paths that join together to form a Coordinate. It is the Paths that connects past and present titan shifters through memories, wills flesh, bones etc.

      so maybe Kruger knew about Armin and Mikasa through Ymir who probably saw through the future or something. I'm not sure if it makes sense but that's what i got from my research.

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