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    • I liked it in the manga a little bit better but im just gonna say 6/10

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    • Loved the reveal of Levi's last name (finally!) and the amazing ending from Linked Horizon!

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    • Some great scenes in this one! Also glad to see Linked Horizon doing the ending. :D

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    • I think this was better than last episode, but still felt disjointed. I would have expected Jean's death fake-out to have been an episode ending rather than a commercial break, but I guess they couldn't do a wagon chase for a full episode even while intercutting other scenes (since it was really boring when they did that in the Female Titan arc).

      The Erwin/Nile scene felt muted too. Though it's interesting that Erwin is more under house arrest than anything else, nothing really happened in that scene. It could have been cut entirely, which is odd since this season has been all about trimming. SPOILER: Though Erwin tells Nile he'll have to eventually pick a side, really, that's not enough information for Nile to believably switch sides for the coup. This scene originally would have been Nile's admission that he has no idea wtf the First Interior Squad does and the Erwin/Nile/Marie backstory.

      Jean's one of my favorite characters though, so I didn't like how his hesitancy to shoot was handled in the adaptation. In the manga we had more of a lead up to the event. By the time he has his near death experience in the manga the kidnapping and torture of Sannes has already taken place so he already knows what lengths the squad has to go to. Despite knowing this, Jean is still trying to be a good person, and he gets to voice his opposition to the idea of fighting other people, saying that this isn't what he signed up for when he joined the Survey Corps. He doubts he could kill even if Levi ordered him to, and he says all of this in advance of his hesistation.

      In the anime, the torture scene happens later, and Jean never gets to say that he doesn't want to fight people, so all he has is a heat of the moment order to kill if the opportunity arises. And because the animators know what's going to happen, they really focus on showing that Jean is nervous, but he's the only member of the squad that freaks out like that (the manga makes it clear that all of them are varying levels of anxious, which disguises Jean's particular anxiety better). And then of course the anxious guy is the one who whiffs the shot.

      It would have been fine with the room to set up, but there wasn't any. Instead it just looks like Jean blew it.

      The rest of the changes were all right. Hearing Hange's voice in the torture scenes was a definitely plus though. Such enthusiasm. :)

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    • That fight scene between Levi and Kenny's squad lived up to the hype like seriously the choreography and animation in that scene are some of the best I've ever seen from an anime. Easily up there with Reiner Vs Eren in Season 2 for me as one of the shows best moments.

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    • RuneLai wrote:
      I think this was better than last episode, but still felt disjointed. I would have expected Jean's death fake-out to have been an episode ending rather than a commercial break, but I guess they couldn't do a wagon chase for a full episode even while intercutting other scenes (since it was really boring when they did that in the Female Titan arc).

      The Erwin/Nile scene felt muted too. Though it's interesting that Erwin is more under house arrest than anything else, nothing really happened in that scene. It could have been cut entirely, which is odd since this season has been all about trimming. SPOILER: Though Erwin tells Nile he'll have to eventually pick a side, really, that's not enough information for Nile to believably switch sides for the coup. This scene originally would have been Nile's admission that he has no idea wtf the First Interior Squad does and the Erwin/Nile/Marie backstory.

      Jean's one of my favorite characters though, so I didn't like how his hesitancy to shoot was handled in the adaptation. In the manga we had more of a lead up to the event. By the time he has his near death experience in the manga the kidnapping and torture of Sannes has already taken place so he already knows what lengths the squad has to go to. Despite knowing this, Jean is still trying to be a good person, and he gets to voice his opposition to the idea of fighting other people, saying that this isn't what he signed up for when he joined the Survey Corps. He doubts he could kill even if Levi ordered him to, and he says all of this in advance of his hesistation.

      In the anime, the torture scene happens later, and Jean never gets to say that he doesn't want to fight people, so all he has is a heat of the moment order to kill if the opportunity arises. And because the animators know what's going to happen, they really focus on showing that Jean is nervous, but he's the only member of the squad that freaks out like that (the manga makes it clear that all of them are varying levels of anxious, which disguises Jean's particular anxiety better). And then of course the anxious guy is the one who whiffs the shot.

      It would have been fine with the room to set up, but there wasn't any. Instead it just looks like Jean blew it.

      The rest of the changes were all right. Hearing Hange's voice in the torture scenes was a definitely plus though. Such enthusiasm. :)

      I do agree there is a lot of disjointedness. However while there was no lead up to Jean's anxiety it did demonstrate almost everyone in Levi Squad was not ready to fight humans as they are used to fighting Titans not regular people. The one thing they removed from the scene was Armin's freaky smile.

      Also there is a reason why there is a lot of things change with this arc, here is the proof.   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o1nM1EbRTXw

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    • The positive: great fight against the First interior Squad and a new ED song.

      The negative: the next episode I am dreadful for.

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    • Tdfern14 wrote: Also there is a reason why there is a lot of things change with this arc, here is the proof.   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o1nM1EbRTXw

      I know why there were changes, but that doesn't mean I agree with all of them. I think they could have gotten across what they needed and still picked up the pacing without all these weird cuts. It might turn out all right by the end (via more flashback and rearrangement), but I'm doubtful.

      For instance, Dimo's heel-face turn in the anime makes no sense due to exposition cutting. The last we saw of him in the battle for Trost he was being a jerk and blocking the exit with his wagon. He cared more about his merchandise than the lives of the people of Trost.

      Cut to the Uprising arc, and Levi appeals to Dimo's sense of humanity and responsibility to his fellow citizen. He says: "Trost should have collapsed by now, but it's persevered. That's because the Reeves Company brings people and work together. But if the company was gone for good, just how few people would survive the winter?"

      Now, would the guy who we last saw trying to save his merchandise at the cost of human lives really care? This only works if Dimo has a change of heart and we get that in the manga, but not in the anime.

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    • Overall this was a strange episode for me as I absolutely loved the first 10 minutes (Unlimited Budget Works!) but the second half left me feeling mixed as it still seems that in an attempt to fix the issues with pacing in this arc that they are rushing everything like in 2 episodes we have had close to 10 chapters covered.  We are moving past the stuff that dragged down the pacing in the manga (Reeves was just not interesting enough to carry multiple chapters in the manga and I wasn't exactly thrilled to learn about the inner workings of the merchant guilds) but by rushing past everything the audience has been deprived of the context behind the actions like why Reeves aids the Survey Corps or why Sannes does what he does and it also dilutes the themes/moral ambiguity that the arc is trying to communicate to it's audience. So I don't know it just feels like they haven't quite nailed the balance so far as it like they took cold soggy soup and returned it piping hot with lots of the meat gone.

      - On a side note though I am loving that Kenny's second in command is getting more screen time (Traute is her name right?) as I enjoy the dynamic her and Kenny have.

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    • I enjoyed these last two episodes, but I think anime-only watchers will be a tad confused, and maybe miffed, at some of the cuts, mainly because of their speed and randomness.

      The constant re-shuffling of scenes (re-ordering the torture scene and Jean's hesitancy for example) makes the threads of this arc more difficult to follow then they were in the manga. RuneLai is right on the money regarding Jean's character and how the anime adaption flattens the impact of it. Reeves' character also gets so little time to change sides and then die that it seriously cheapens the impact he had. I'm starting to dread how the anime will handle the news reporters and their relationship with Hange, because if it's blitzed then that will lessen the impact of the government's collapse later on that they helped facilitate. Already skipping the talk between Ewrin and Nile has weakened that particular payoff. It's a nasty domino effect and I fear it's going to muck up the pacing too much for me to enjoy the story. Flashbacks will help but they still won't be as meaningful as the scenes happening at a more natural pace.

      Also, was it the girl that killed Keiji in the manga? If not, then that was a really poor addition, because it makes her hesitancy to shoot Jean more unbelievable. 

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