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    • anyone read this yet?

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    • Interesting chapter. Nice to get to the bottom of Zeke's motivations. Really goes to show how much Grisha screwed up, trying to use him to further the revolution as opposed to trying to be a dad.

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    • I thought that this was a pretty solid chapter that put all the pieces into focus and cemented AOT's endgame.

      Positives:

      - Zeke's backstory made for a pretty good read as it was propelled by solid dialogue and the strong characterization of Grisha and Xavier.

      - Xavier was a pretty cool one off character with a suitably tragic back story and a interesting dynamic with Zeke.

      - More Eldian history is always good in my book and it also clearly expressed what Zeke's endgame is and what Eren's plan most likely is (body composition change via the Founder = no titans)

      Mixed:

      - Zeke's plan and motives are perfectly logical with what I know about Zeke but I still feel that this amount of mystery boxes wasn't worth it considering it's a fairly common trope in media to have characters that have similar viewpoints so Isayama ain't winning no originality points here. 

      - Zeke blowing himself up was legitimately surprising and a great storytelling beat but the cliffhanger leaves potential that both Zeke and Levi make it out (Zeke's survival is 100% Levi is about 85% for me) and it would undermine the impactfulness of the scene and is kinda unrealistic. The only kind of character that could survive this would be one with unlimited regeneration (Ex. Deadpool) while Zeke's brain or spine would have to survive the intial explosion and sharpnel from the equivalent of a direct hit from a RPG with no titan to protect him. This scene would still be fine if Levi dies though but it looks like he's fine (I think his right hand got blown off but nothing else for certain) and as many pointed out in other threads it feels like it's Levi's time to ride off into the sunset so having him escape again would be kinda lame.

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    • Although I knew this chapter was eventually going to come, it surprised me by how much it resonated with me. Aside from this, I don't have much to say except for a small observation -- the monkey toy Zeke was holding at the end of Chapter 86 (That Day) is also present in Xaver's description of his wife and son's death scene.

      Proposing Zeke to become a warrior:

      • Monkey toy
      • Horse
      • Two wooden soldiers

      Xaver's family's death:

      • Monkey toy
      • Hammer
      • A ball
      • Clown
      • Various blocks
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    • Well, in short, this chapter shows that Isayama has not and will not change.  Everyone and their mother knows that Levi and Zeke will survive.  There is no question in the matter, Isayama does not have the guts to kill off Levi.  Zeke will simply pull off a Reiner.  Both are alive and fine (funny that Isayama let Sasha die with a measly gun shot but let Levi survive an explosion despite not being a Titan) 

      But as for my full opinion on the chapter.  I really enjoyed the back story on how Zeke was able to obtain the Beast Titan (though mad that we will NEVER see Tom's Beast Titan).  What really interests me is that the Manga showed us an event that was shown in the Anime almost 2 whole years ago.  The attack on Lago.  That really makes me wonder if the anime team is in the know of Attack on Titan's story and if Dot Pixis will actually become a Titan (since we see a Titan that looks exactly like him in episode one).  It would be great if the Garrison members turned into Titans, Anka and Gustav haven't done anything noteful other than the role Anka played in the Uprising arc.  If they become Titans, then it would be very interesting and intertaing to me, especially Dot, the Scouts wouldn't know what to do if he turned into a Titan (There's also Rogue.  Rogue Titan, get it????)

      None the less, this chapter wasn't that bad.  But Isayama has to realize that we aren't falling for the fake deaths anymore.  Isayama was never gonna kill Armin and a lot of fans knew Armin wasn't dead. He sure as HELL won't ever kill off Levi, let alone let him loose a limb.  As much as I hate his character, he is here to stay weather we like it or not.

      P.S If Zeke is "dead" then he will transfer his conciounse to another Eldian who drank his fluids.  That is all folks  

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    • I really liked the characterization in this chapter. We get a lot about Tom Xaver in this one chapter; what he's like as a person, why he bonds with Zeke, and why he's a Warrior.

      I also like that it's Xaver's idea that Zeke turn in his parents. I never liked the idea that Zeke just did it on his own (too much planning for a kid to be acting independently), nor did I think he was being groomed by The Owl. But Xaver and his separation from the Eldian Restorationist movement nicely fits the bill.

      I'm not sure I particularly like or understand Zeke's end game; sterilizing the Eldian race. If it's possible for the Founding Titan to change the physical bodies of the Subjects of Ymir, why not make a change so that they can no longer become Titans? Then they could still have families and just be like normal people.

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    • is anyone allowed to spoil what happened?

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    • Freeman1378 wrote:

      the cliffhanger leaves potential that both Zeke and Levi make it out (Zeke's survival is 100% Levi is about 85% for me) 

      Both are 100% alive.  I don't know why the wiki decided to mark them as 'Unknown.'  Especially Levi.  He has more of a chance of surviving than Zeke does

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    • Tommy,Klaus&Kol2012+ wrote:
      is anyone allowed to spoil what happened?

      The chapter is already officially out, so you can visit the official sources to read the chapter. Otherwise, a basic description of the chapter would be: "Some of Zeke's backstory (Zeke being taught "history" / propaganda, Zeke struggling before and as a warrior), Xaver's role is expanded upon and we receive a basic backstory (he was also confirmed to be the previous Beast Titan), Xaver and Zeke play baseball, Grisha and Dina's selfish parenting is seen through Zeke's perspective, and Zeke blows up the Thunder Spear.".

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    • well i have no access to it atm unfortunately



      but man zeke blowing up that spear is trouble for the resistance which I like!, I kinda want the bad guys to win

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    • but thanks for the summary

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    • OctoRift wrote:
      Freeman1378 wrote:

      the cliffhanger leaves potential that both Zeke and Levi make it out (Zeke's survival is 100% Levi is about 85% for me) 

      Both are 100% alive.  I don't know why the wiki decided to mark them as 'Unknown.'  Especially Levi.  He has more of a chance of surviving than Zeke does

      Hmm I didn't know the wiki had there status as unknown. I know Zeke lives because his spine and brain are intact and I strongly believe Levi is ok but the 15% is me being optimistic that Levi bleeds out after losing a limb (the image makes it seem like his hand might be gone and its a nice parallel to Erwin). I really like Levi as a character but I agree that Isayama has to pull the trigger and off someone big as the only recent losses we've had is a secondary (Sasha), tertiary (Zackley), and non existent (Tybur) character when everyone should be fair game in the series conclusion. 

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    • RuneLai wrote:
      I really liked the characterization in this chapter. We get a lot about Tom Xaver in this one chapter; what he's like as a person, why he bonds with Zeke, and why he's a Warrior.

      I also like that it's Xaver's idea that Zeke turn in his parents. I never liked the idea that Zeke just did it on his own (too much planning for a kid to be acting independently), nor did I think he was being groomed by The Owl. But Xaver and his separation from the Eldian Restorationist movement nicely fits the bill.

      I'm not sure I particularly like or understand Zeke's end game; sterilizing the Eldian race. If it's possible for the Founding Titan to change the physical bodies of the Subjects of Ymir, why not make a change so that they can no longer become Titans? Then they could still have families and just be like normal people.

      This is just my interpratation so take it with a grain of salt: Zeke wants to sterlize Eldians because he knows that if he leaves them alive they will be locked in a neverending war with the world as Marley and friends will never forgive the Eldians for their war crimes (even without the titans) and Eldia will never forgive Marley. So in order to spare the citizens of Eldia suffering he will sterilize them and hold the world ransom with the Wall titans (with Hizuru's aid) and everyone will live out their remaining days in peace (Historia's descendants excluded I assume as they need to keep passing the founder) and then when every Eldian has passed on the final holder of the founder will let the curse take them thus ending the curse once and for all. Of course Eren will not accept this as his plan is most likely similar to what you suggested and this will be the thematic crux of the climax.

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    • Freeman1378 wrote: I strongly believe Levi is ok but the 15% is me being optimistic that Levi bleeds out after losing a limb

      Trust me, Isayama isn't man enough

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    • Well, I guess you could say Zeke went out with a bang (rimshot).

      While I have some reservations about flashback issues (due to them being either a hit-or-miss), I really liked this one with Tom; I had a feeling he was the holder of the Beast Titan before Zeke, but the revelation about his family and his subsequent motivation in becoming the Beast Titan and a researcher was really well done. You can see the raw emotion between the two and how they both found something they were missing in their lives: Zeke as a surrogate son for Tom and Tom as the father Zeke wanted Grisha to be.

      But back to the ending. I'm surprised Zeke's status is listed as 'Unknown' after this issue; sure, he has survived from a Thunder Spear attack before, but that was while he was inside his Titan form: here, it was in his stomach (essentially at point blank range) and it looked like Zeke was blown apart from the explosion. Unless Zeke has another unknown ability due to his royal blood, I believe he's a dead man. In either case, I can't wait to see the aftermath of this!

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    • I don't think Levi is seriously injured at all, most likely he will wake up with some shrapnel wounds and nothing more. Zeke has clearly been sheared into 2 or more pieces though, you can see his torso on the right of the explosion and his lower body on the left. With some part of his arm and some smaller pieces flying in all directions. HOWEVER, his torso above where the spear was remains intact and that's all he needs to regenerate.

      I like that Zeke has his own plan rather than being just another restorationist or Marley double agent though. But how can he ever carry out his plan? Eren would never go along with it. And if he eats Eren, he won't be able to do it himself because he'll be possessed by the King's will.

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    • TKGriffiths wrote:
      I don't think Levi is seriously injured at all, most likely he will wake up with some shrapnel wounds and nothing more. Zeke has clearly been sheared into 2 or more pieces though, you can see his torso on the right of the explosion and his lower body on the left. With some part of his arm and some smaller pieces flying in all directions. HOWEVER, his torso above where the spear was remains intact and that's all he needs to regenerate.

      I like that Zeke has his own plan rather than being just another restorationist or Marley double agent though. But how can he ever carry out his plan? Eren would never go along with it. And if he eats Eren, he won't be able to do it himself because he'll be possessed by the King's will.

      Perhaps he's unaware of the king's will that holders of the Founding Titan with royal blood inherit?

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    • Amazing. I think I understand you better Rune. 

      I'm glad we saw more of Zeke's childhood and Xaver got some development. 

      As for Zeke's plan, it's very interesting. ... Not that I think that's the thing to do but I can't wait to see the reaction of the Yeagerists when they will hear about it, hoping they don't know it now. XD

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    • I like the cliffhanger.

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    • Glad this chapter happened. Finally good to see expositon for what Zeke's motivations and endgame are and honestly, when it comes to morality and weighing what is best for the world, his endgame is honestly probably the best we've gotten. The Eldians will become extinct, ending the cycle of tragedy surrounding them, but nobody has to be killed in the process, merely meeting their natural deaths.

      Zeke pulling what appears to be a suicide bomb catching Levi off guard is also something I'm really glad happened. It makes up for what I found to be a largely irritating last chapter.

      I didn't say it during the last discussion, the entirely of Levi last chapter urked me to no end. Sure he is a badass, but him managing to survive, kill the titans, and still manage to capture, defeat, and restrain Zeke all in one go was really really dumb and a huge ass pull. I mean, if Levi managed to just evade the Titans and rushed to get to Zeke, that'd be fine, but no they had to have him do literally everything.

      Though I'm really glad that Zeke's surprise suicide bombing at least definitely landed a devastating hit. It reflects how I've always wanted Levi to be taken out, unceremoniously, by an equilizer, not in some epic battle, but by an unexpected surprise.

      That being said, I'll be 100% frank, I don't want either of them to have survived.

      Not only for narrative reasons, but also for logical reasons as well.

      Zeke detonated what is essentially a RPG lodged into his stomach. A weapon which mind you is powerful enough to do serious damage to the Armored Titan. Even if his upper body is still somehow in tact, just the shockwave of the explosions would've logically killed both of them, or at the very least killed Zeke and left Levi beyond critically injured.

      I say Levi might survive into the next chapter, but I'm also expecting him not to make it past the next chapter. As in the next chapter will be his dying breath. If not, I want him to be injured beyond any sense of recovery, to be taken out from being a player.

      As for Zeke, I'm not sure how I feel about him surviving or dying. I can see him actually having died and being full aware he would die. Desperate people do desperate things, and with how much the two of them loathe each other, I can see Zeke pulling the trigger to just end both of them.

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    • TKGriffiths wrote:
      I don't think Levi is seriously injured at all, most likely he will wake up with some shrapnel wounds and nothing more. Zeke has clearly been sheared into 2 or more pieces though, you can see his torso on the right of the explosion and his lower body on the left. With some part of his arm and some smaller pieces flying in all directions. HOWEVER, his torso above where the spear was remains intact and that's all he needs to regenerate.

      I like that Zeke has his own plan rather than being just another restorationist or Marley double agent though. But how can he ever carry out his plan? Eren would never go along with it. And if he eats Eren, he won't be able to do it himself because he'll be possessed by the King's will.

      We've never seen any titan shifter sustain injured quite that severe before. Heck, when Pieck was blasted and has some of her intestines spilling out, that was considered a pretty grave injury, she survived but that was considered difficult to regenerate from. Zeke is literally missing the lower half of his body, that would be quite considerable of an injury.

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    • Thinker224 wrote:

      We've never seen any titan shifter sustain injured quite that severe before. Heck, when Pieck was blasted and has some of her intestines spilling out, that was considered a pretty grave injury, she survived but that was considered difficult to regenerate from. Zeke is literally missing the lower half of his body, that would be quite considerable of an injury.

      Reiner had his head blown off and survived, that's a far more serious injury.

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    • sorry, but this made NO FUCKING SENSE. And it just feels like another asspull

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    • TKGriffiths wrote: Reiner had his head blown off and survived, that's a far more serious injury.

      He was also in his titan and was able to transfer his neural function across the entire titan. But Zeke is not in titan form and cannot transfer his neural across his titan body because there is no titan to transfer it to.

      What I meant was, we've never seen a Titan Shifter sustain such damage while outside of their titan.

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    • 50-50 on this chapter

      Pros:

      -Finally got some Zeke backstory, and some parts were genuinely interesting such as the fact that he actually wasn't a perfect candidate from the start

      -For a minor flashback character, I like how they used Xaver and gave him a tragic backstory

      -Seeing how Grisha definitely had more trouble raising Zeke than he did Eren, but you know, he had his reasons.

      -Xaver teaching Zeke a little more Eldian history in terms of battles and war. 

      -SECOND consecutive chapter without Gabi

      Cons:

      -I already said last chapter I didn't want Zeke to have a tragic backstory, so I kinda don't really like that he's another 'misunderstood' character. His backstory, while interesting, doesn't really make me feel sympathy for him.

      -This one is less about the chapter itself and more about certain people in the fandom saying how much of a bitch Dina is, both for the way she raised Zeke and for eating Eren's mom. Look I get it, she's not a perfect mom, but let's not pretend Dina having no control over who she eats is a punishable offense while Warriors who consciously kill their enemies by their own choice are suddenly expected to be sympathetic.

      -No Yeagerists this time

      Mixed:

      -Another part that's less about the chapter and more about the fandom complaining about people concerned about Levi. Look, I get it, we had a decent chapter that explored Zeke's background, but can you really blame people for worrying about Levi? Literally saw a Tumblr post saying "Isayama writes chapter about a complex and intriguing character, and all the fandom can say is 'IF LEVI DIES WE RIOT'". Honestly, Levi has always been a more popular character, so it shouldn't be a surprise people are more concerned about his survival than whatever messed up childhood Zeke had.

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    • For everyone saying Dina ate Carla on purpose. 



      How would she know that Carla was married to Grisha if he wasn't even there?

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    • Zeke's idea of both Eldia's and the world's salvation is truly interesting to me. Rendering the Eldians sterile, leading to their eventual extinction, was something I never saw coming. It's good to find out about a new aspect of the Founding Titan's powers. While genocidal in theory and practice, it wouldn't really kill anyone, unlike what the rest of the world has planned for them, so it does have a certain moral high ground.

      It is still a questionable course of actions, taking away the choice of having children, but it's guaranteed that the rest of the human race would be against the Eldians for, at least, a very long time. I mean, we saw how that janitor reacted to the Yeager family; with the other nations are even worse, that sort of animosity won't go away any time soon. They'll keep attacking Paradis, killing the Eldians there, and they'll keep retaliating. See that conflict going on for centuries, and that's a whole lotta dead people on both sides, and that's only if one doesn't manage to wipe out the other via mass murder. Parents raising their children to be soldiers, taking away their freedom of choice, for the mere sake of survival and centuries-old prejudices. That's just fucked up.

      Zeke's idea essentially leads to all Eldians going extinct within approximately 80-90 years, without the need for slaughter on either side. The Eldians no longer suffer either intense racism and mistreatment or frequent attacks by the outside world, and the rest of humanity no longer has to worry about Titans. Circumstances have simply forced the situation where Zeke's goal seems the best win-win that can be managed, and that's what's tragic about this all.

      On a side note, anyone else think that the whole disease from 600 years ago is an AoT universe mirror of the Black Plague? If we look at their level of technological advancement, as well as the facets of the epidemic Xaver mentioned, the widespread disease would have occurred around the same time period in the timeline as our own epidemic did. Just a thought.

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    • Penguinluver1431 wrote: 50-50 on this chapter

      Pros:

      -Finally got some Zeke backstory, and some parts were genuinely interesting such as the fact that he actually wasn't a perfect candidate from the start

      -For a minor flashback character, I like how they used Xaver and gave him a tragic backstory

      -Seeing how Grisha definitely had more trouble raising Zeke than he did Eren, but you know, he had his reasons.

      -Xaver teaching Zeke a little more Eldian history in terms of battles and war. 

      -SECOND consecutive chapter without Gabi

      Cons:

      -I already said last chapter I didn't want Zeke to have a tragic backstory, so I kinda don't really like that he's another 'misunderstood' character. His backstory, while interesting, doesn't really make me feel sympathy for him.

      -This one is less about the chapter itself and more about certain people in the fandom saying how much of a bitch Dina is, both for the way she raised Zeke and for eating Eren's mom. Look I get it, she's not a perfect mom, but let's not pretend Dina having no control over who she eats is a punishable offense while Warriors who consciously kill their enemies by their own choice are suddenly expected to be sympathetic.

      -No Yeagerists this time

      Mixed:

      -Another part that's less about the chapter and more about the fandom complaining about people concerned about Levi. Look, I get it, we had a decent chapter that explored Zeke's background, but can you really blame people for worrying about Levi? Literally saw a Tumblr post saying "Isayama writes chapter about a complex and intriguing character, and all the fandom can say is 'IF LEVI DIES WE RIOT'". Honestly, Levi has always been a more popular character, so it shouldn't be a surprise people are more concerned about his survival than whatever messed up childhood Zeke had.

      I disagree and agree with you on Dina, she wasn't a "good" mother thats true. However she didn't ask to become a mindless Titan nor did she wanted to eat Carla.

      I disagree on Zeke, I don't think he is misunderstood at all really I think given all this weight or burden of responsibility he never asked for and so much pressure of trying to impress his parents. Xaver who was really the only one person he ever considered a true friend. Zeke knows what he is doing is wrong but the end he knows its the right way. Zeke is kinda sociopathic similar or vain of Thanos from Infinity War but they are both willing to do the hard choices that believed is right.

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    • Not going to lie I wasn't expecting a epic chapter however this was a chapter I believe was needed. Zeke's past and his point of view shown and how he became the Zeke he is now, Xaver and his reasons for being a warrior and showcasing that the world is pretty warped and twisted, giving all the more evidence there is no easy or peaceful answers to all of this, and it will all come down to a heavy decision and cost to it all.

      I don't think Levi will die, but I am willing to bet he will lose hand/arm and he will land unconsciously into the river. Won't wake up until much later.

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    • hopefully zeke aint dead



      also are the resistance screwed without that thunder spear?

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    • @Penguinluver1431 
      

      Since you and others are certainly not fans of a certain character that shall not be named. You should see this site https://gabibraunmustdie.tumblr.com/

      Got it from Fire Eater

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    • Tdfern14 wrote:
      @Penguinluver1431

      Since you and others are certainly not fans of a certain character that shall not be named. You should see this site https://gabibraunmustdie.tumblr.com/

      Got it from Fire Eater

      Oh I'm very familiar with that blog. There's also another one called ihategabibraun, but that one is much tamer in comparison.

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    • Penguinluver1431 wrote:
      Tdfern14 wrote:
      @Penguinluver1431

      Since you and others are certainly not fans of a certain character that shall not be named. You should see this site https://gabibraunmustdie.tumblr.com/

      Got it from Fire Eater

      Oh I'm very familiar with that blog. There's also another one called ihategabibraun, but that one is much tamer in comparison.

      Really? Well hatred is still hatred. There is also a YouTube video.

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    • I don't really consider the end of the chapter a cliffhanger, we all know that Isayama doesn't have the balls to kill Levi. At the very most he'll probably be crippled in some way, and then somehow still manage to be overpowered as hell. 

      Other then that I thought this was a great chapter. I really feel for Zeke much more then I did before reading this chapter. All his parents needed to do was show him just a little affection, and everything would probably have turned out differently. 

      I feel like Eren's plan is to change the Eldian people so they can no longer be turned into titans, take all the titan powers for himself, then crystalize like Annie for the rest of eternity. 

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    • LoverOfTragedy wrote:
      I feel like Eren's plan is to change the Eldian people so they can no longer be turned into titans, take all the titan powers for himself, then crystalize like Annie for the rest of eternity. 

      If that's possible I think Zeke would go for it rather than his sterilization idea.

      Also what would be the point of crystalizing himself? Nobody else could become a titan so there's no danger of being eaten and losing the founder. He could just let the curse kill him and he'd be the last titan.

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    • TKGriffiths wrote:

      If that's possible I think Zeke would go for it rather than his sterilization idea.

      Also what would be the point of crystalizing himself? Nobody else could become a titan so there's no danger of being eaten and losing the founder. He could just let the curse kill him and he'd be the last titan.

      While I too agree with your first statement. Like, if the Founding Titan could just do that, why didn't the Karl or any of descendants try?

      But onto your second point, even if the ability to transform into titans was removed, the Eldians are still connected by paths, unless its powers could somehow completely make somebody not Eldian, in which the above statement is even more prevalent. So if Eren were to die, the powers will still end up in other hosts randomly. So assuming crystalizing acts like an indefinite stasis, that would be one way to keep it out of people's hands.

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    • Thinker224 wrote:
      TKGriffiths wrote:

      If that's possible I think Zeke would go for it rather than his sterilization idea.

      Also what would be the point of crystalizing himself? Nobody else could become a titan so there's no danger of being eaten and losing the founder. He could just let the curse kill him and he'd be the last titan.

      While I too agree with your first statement. Like, if the Founding Titan could just do that, why didn't the Karl or any of descendants try?

      But onto your second point, even if the ability to transform into titans was removed, the Eldians are still connected by paths, unless its powers could somehow completely make somebody not Eldian, in which the above statement is even more prevalent. So if Eren were to die, the powers will still end up in other hosts randomly. So assuming crystalizing acts like an indefinite stasis, that would be one way to keep it out of people's hands.

      Maybe unless Eren takes that power of paths.  I think Karl didn't try that because he values his people's lives and wanted to create a safe paradise of course his way of doing things was messed up but I think he thought that nobody would wanted to be in Crystal prison forever.

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    • Thinker224 wrote: But onto your second point, even if the ability to transform into titans was removed, the Eldians are still connected by paths, unless its powers could somehow completely make somebody not Eldian, in which the above statement is even more prevalent. So if Eren were to die, the powers will still end up in other hosts randomly. So assuming crystalizing acts like an indefinite stasis, that would be one way to keep it out of people's hands.

      I don't understand this point. If someone becomes a titan after he dies, then obviously he didn't actually remove the Eldian race's ability to become a titan.

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    • Man. Dina and Grisha were really shitty parents.

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    • TKGriffiths wrote:

      I don't understand this point. If someone becomes a titan after he dies, then obviously he didn't actually remove the Eldian race's ability to become a titan.

      I mean, the power of the 9 Titans, especially the Founding Titan aren't just gonna disappear.

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    • Thinker224 wrote:

      I mean, the power of the 9 Titans, especially the Founding Titan aren't just gonna disappear.

      Yes they are if there's no one left capable of inheriting them, that's the whole point of Zeke's plan.

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    • Titan7291$ wrote: Man. Dina and Grisha were really shitty parents.

      Yeah but at least Grisha was a better dad to Eren than was to Zeke.

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    • TKGriffiths wrote:
      Yes they are if there's no one left capable of inheriting them, that's the whole point of Zeke's plan.

      The whole point of Zeke's plan is to cause the Eldian race's extinction so it is actually impossible for the Titans to exist circa 100 years.

      Even if the Founding Titan could remove the inherent ability to transform into a Titan, they're still Eldian, and when a pre-existing shiftier dies, their power will still transfer through the paths. And what is to say the powers don't override everything? Shifters aren't under the absolute authority of the Founding Titan.

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    • Thinker224 wrote:

      Even if the Founding Titan could remove the inherent ability to transform into a Titan, they're still Eldian, and when a pre-existing shiftier dies, their power will still transfer through the paths. And what is to say the powers don't override everything? Shifters aren't under the absolute authority of the Founding Titan.

      I still don't understand why you're making this exception for the 9 titans. They're titans as well, they can't be passed on to people who are inherently unable to become titans. You seem to be implying the reason is 'the paths', but all titans are created through the paths, even pure titans. That's where all the materialized flesh comes from.

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    • OctoRift wrote:
      Freeman1378 wrote: I strongly believe Levi is ok but the 15% is me being optimistic that Levi bleeds out after losing a limb

      Trust me, Isayama isn't man enough

      Best to take it with a grain of salt for now

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