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  • Based on the most recent chapter, it seems as though Mikasa has lost her faith in Eren, symbolized by the leaving of the scarf he gave her. But this is only my belief.

    What do you think?

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    • I don't think she lost faith in Eren. I think it's her simply realizing that she needs to move on on her own without being always by Eren's side needlessly and developing as a character. She probably realised what Eren wanted to say after he said he'd always "hated" her. So in my view that's the reason by leaving the scarf behind which is the precious symbol of her love for Eren. 

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    • I don't think that's a loss of faith so much as I think she's decided to view everything with open eyes now. Instead of blinding following Eren around, she's going to decide for herself what she wants and what kind of person she wants to be. She may eventually decide she still wants to be by Eren, but if she does, it will now be because she chooses to be, and not because of any prior emotional connection.

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    • It's possible that Mikasa's faith in Eren had been lost. She's now close to Armin and Jean. Eren mentioned only tolerated Mikasa because she was undergoing a lot of grief after her parents were murdered and that he was the closest to her having family. Having her overbearingly needing to be by his side has annoyed him at all times and finally tells her off how he felt all those years. Having now realized that Eren hated her, Mikasa realizes she must go her own way and discards the scarf which she has held on to as a symbol of familiar desires.

      It's also possible that the final chapter will be fight between the two of them. Mikasa will end up undergoing a mental breakdown after killing Eren

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    • If Eren really despises her, then he’s an awful person and no better than the other people of other franchises where the bad guys are flawed.

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    • Aggression25 wrote:
      If Eren really despiser her, then he’s an awful person and no better than the other people of other franchises where the bad guys are flawed.

      I highly doubt that a 9 year old boy could spend all of his time with someone he doesn't like. Usually, when children doesn't like each others, they make it evident. Of course, Eren might have found Mikasa a bit boring because she's always after him, even as a child (he's angry at her when she told the parents that he plans to join de Scouts, but even the closests siblings can have an argument), but that doesn't mean he's always hated her, far from it. 

      If he ever has hated her, it's just recent stuff then. It might have started about years 853/854, but clearly not in the years 844/845/846/847/848/849/850. And even if he's currently really hating her (which I doubt, I think he likes her "less than before", but I don't think he hates her), he still has done his "I've always hated you" in order to force her to get independant. And if she dies, I'd say that he'd be sad, no matter what he might have said about hating her.

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    • Razzylada wrote:

      Aggression25 wrote:
      If Eren really despiser her, then he’s an awful person and no better than the other people of other franchises where the bad guys are flawed.

      I highly doubt that a 9 year old boy could spend all of his time with someone he doesn't like. Usually, when children doesn't like each others, they make it evident. Of course, Eren might have found Mikasa a bit boring because she's always after him, even as a child (he's angry at her when she told the parents that he plans to join de Scouts, but even the closests siblings can have an argument), but that doesn't mean he's always hated her, far from it. 

      If he ever has hated her, it's just recent stuff then. It might have started about years 853/854, but clearly not in the years 844/845/846/847/848/849/850. And even if he's currently really hating her (which I doubt, I think he likes her "less than before", but I don't think he hates her), he still has done his "I've always hated you" in order to force her to get independant. And if she dies, I'd say that he'd be sad, no matter what he might have said about hating her.

      Still, there are some lines that are better off not being crossed, and Eren crossed them to a large degree with his actions, both physical and verbal.

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    • Aggression25 wrote:

      Still, there are some lines that are better off not being crossed, and Eren crossed them to a large degree with his actions, both physical and verbal.

      Oh, of course, he went too far, but maybe if he didn't went that far, maybe she wouldn't start to be "free of him". I remember when I discovered this chapter with a friend, every time Eren aded something we were "Damn he's harsh", so imagine our reactions when he called her a slave, and after saying he's always hated her, with her facial expression. While reading this chapter, even if we knew that is was the half of a lie, our reactions were more emotionnal than the ones we had for Sasha's death. What Mikasa has lived here must have been awfull, one of the worst moment of her life, along with the death of her biological and adoptive parents. 

      If Mikasa ever comes back to Eren (at least just not to be in a "We will never talk again relationship"), for sure it'll never be the same as before. Eren might have done it so she frees herself from him, without meaning what he said, he destroyed something for sure (and for Armin too, we talk about Mikasa, but Eren was harsh to him too, it must have been a horrible moment to live to for him too), and no matter what, but nothing will be as it was before. Remember when EMA, the night before ratking wall Maria, were talking about after? If things were ever going to be like before? Well, Eren destroyed any hope of this. 

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    • I don't believe she has lost faith in him entirely. It's more like other people here have mentioned that she will no longer follow him or anyone blindly. After the death of Sasha, I believe that in order to protect those he cares about from dying, Eren would have to distance himself from them. He's "turned into the villain" to push them away, which is why he berated Armin and Mikasa. Let's not forget that this is the guy who said that he would wrap that red scarf around her as many times he needs to. Isayama is a great storyteller, so I don't believe he will forget something like that. There will most likely be another scene coming up of Eren wrapping that scarf around Mikasa one more time. And just to throw it out there, I believe they will end up together if they both survive 

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    • Elbarto013 wrote: I don't believe she has lost faith in him entirely. It's more like other people here have mentioned that she will no longer follow him or anyone blindly. After the death of Sasha, I believe that in order to protect those he cares about from dying, Eren would have to distance himself from them. He's "turned into the villain" to push them away, which is why he berated Armin and Mikasa. Let's not forget that this is the guy who said that he would wrap that red scarf around her as many times he needs to. Isayama is a great storyteller, so I don't believe he will forget something like that. There will most likely be another scene coming up of Eren wrapping that scarf around Mikasa one more time. And just to throw it out there, I believe they will end up together if they both survive 

      His becoming a villain only shows that he has become what some people that make such a choice become over time: A real jerk.

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    • I don't believe Eren despises her. Not for a single second have I believed that. For one thing, the idea of him "always hating her" would conflict with so many previous scenes. Particularly Chapter 50 when he promised he would be there for her always. Eren's not the type to lie in situations like that. He's way too blunt and wears his emotions on his sleeve for that, at least at that point in time.

      The way I see it, if there's any hatred, it's at himself. If Mikasa was a "slave" as he put it, that would make him the "slave driver", exactly the kind of person he hates since he's always hated those who take freedom away from others. So he did this to break Mikasa out of it. It was harsh for sure, but probably the only way to break her programming.

      Now Mikasa can choose where she wants to go. Honestly, it may very well lead back to Eren, and if it does it would give the chance for their bond to be re-forged on a stronger level.

      So, as someone else said, I would go with the idea that Eren perhaps likes her a little less than before, but no where close to hate.

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    • Personally, I feel the look on Mikasa's face and her actions are those of someone who is finally free from an f-boi. However, considering their long history and the complexities of their relationship ties I don't think it's as cut and dry. 

      But something needs to happen with Eren's character, be it his death or turnaround. Or he will go against everything that makes a lead of a shounen manga. How do you destroy your relations with the two people that had your back when you were the angry, high-strung teenager everyone wanted dead? That makes absolutely no sense. I read comments, about him doing it for their own good, but I hope the author doesn't give us some wishy-washy reconcilation that doesn't make Eren accountable.

      He went too far. He beat up Armin! Called Mikasa names! No, I can't. To think I held a grudge against Levi for beating him up, now I see Levi was just trying to maintain control of one crazy kid.

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    • PaidSista wrote: Personally, I feel the look on Mikasa's face and her actions are those of someone who is finally free from an f-boi. However, considering their long history and the complexities of their relationship ties I don't think it's as cut and dry. 

      But something needs to happen with Eren's character, be it his death or turnaround. Or he will go against everything that makes a lead of a shounen manga. How do you destroy your relations with the two people that had your back when you were the angry, high-strung teenager everyone wanted dead? That makes absolutely no sense. I read comments, about him doing it for their own good, but I hope the author doesn't give us some wishy-washy reconcilation that doesn't make Eren accountable.

      He went too far. He beat up Armin! Called Mikasa names! No, I can't. To think I held a grudge against Levi for beating him up, now I see Levi was just trying to maintain control of one crazy kid.

      At this point, if redemption is impossible for Eren, I'd settle for his premature demise. Let someone else be the Attack Titan and do right by the Eldians.

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    • LadyNeko wrote:
      It's possible that Mikasa's faith in Eren had been lost. She's now close to Armin and Jean. Eren mentioned only tolerated Mikasa because she was undergoing a lot of grief after her parents were murdered and that he was the closest to her having family. Having her overbearingly needing to be by his side has annoyed him at all times and finally tells her off how he felt all those years. Having now realized that Eren hated her, Mikasa realizes she must go her own way and discards the scarf which she has held on to as a symbol of familiar desires.

      It's also possible that the final chapter will be fight between the two of them. Mikasa will end up undergoing a mental breakdown after killing Eren

      She's not close to Jean, comrades yes but close friends ?? nope,they barely any interaction between them tho, nevermind close friends. and Mikasa is not going to kill Eren.

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    • I think she has. However, she is still bound to the Ackerman instinct and no ammount of pain or betrayal could fix or undo that

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    • DrXshock wrote:
      I think she has. However, she is still bound to the Ackerman instinct and no ammount of pain or betrayal could fix or undo that

      I think this part of the "conversation" was just a lie of Eren told her.

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    • Turi123456 wrote:

      DrXshock wrote:
      I think she has. However, she is still bound to the Ackerman instinct and no ammount of pain or betrayal could fix or undo that

      I think this part of the "conversation" was just a lie of Eren told her.

      Unless Eren can survive decapitation, we won’t know for sure.

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    • Aggression25 wrote:

      Turi123456 wrote:

      DrXshock wrote:
      I think she has. However, she is still bound to the Ackerman instinct and no ammount of pain or betrayal could fix or undo that
      I think this part of the "conversation" was just a lie of Eren told her.
      Unless Eren can survive decapitation, we won’t know for sure.

      I hope he is but even if not we still have the option of flashback and Zeke is still alive (for now).

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    • Turi123456 wrote:
      DrXshock wrote:
      I think she has. However, she is still bound to the Ackerman instinct and no ammount of pain or betrayal could fix or undo that
      I think this part of the "conversation" was just a lie of Eren told her.

      After reading a bunch it seems there is the possibility he is pushing her and Armin away for fear of them ruining his plans, since Mikasa always has to jump in and save him it seems he could have possibly tried to do this so that nobody else close to him ends up dying, also him being swayed by all the memories he as gotten from several titans could be taking a toll on him.

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    • Mikasaxe wrote:
      Turi123456 wrote:
      DrXshock wrote:
      I think she has. However, she is still bound to the Ackerman instinct and no ammount of pain or betrayal could fix or undo that
      I think this part of the "conversation" was just a lie of Eren told her.
      After reading a bunch it seems there is the possibility he is pushing her and Armin away for fear of them ruining his plans, since Mikasa always has to jump in and save him it seems he could have possibly tried to do this so that nobody else close to him ends up dying, also him being swayed by all the memories he as gotten from several titans could be taking a toll on him.

      He shouldn't be excused just because he wants to keep them safe. There's a huge difference between freedom...and peace, and his behavior makes him seem like he can't decide which is which.

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    • Aggression25 wrote:
      Mikasaxe wrote:
      Turi123456 wrote:
      DrXshock wrote:
      I think she has. However, she is still bound to the Ackerman instinct and no ammount of pain or betrayal could fix or undo that
      I think this part of the "conversation" was just a lie of Eren told her.
      After reading a bunch it seems there is the possibility he is pushing her and Armin away for fear of them ruining his plans, since Mikasa always has to jump in and save him it seems he could have possibly tried to do this so that nobody else close to him ends up dying, also him being swayed by all the memories he as gotten from several titans could be taking a toll on him.
      He shouldn't be excused just because he wants to keep them safe. There's a huge difference between freedom...and peace, and his behavior makes him seem like he can't decide which is which.

      I do not think he should either, but something has him confused and everything

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    • Mikasaxe wrote:

      Aggression25 wrote:
      Mikasaxe wrote:
      Turi123456 wrote:
      DrXshock wrote:
      I think she has. However, she is still bound to the Ackerman instinct and no ammount of pain or betrayal could fix or undo that
      I think this part of the "conversation" was just a lie of Eren told her.
      After reading a bunch it seems there is the possibility he is pushing her and Armin away for fear of them ruining his plans, since Mikasa always has to jump in and save him it seems he could have possibly tried to do this so that nobody else close to him ends up dying, also him being swayed by all the memories he as gotten from several titans could be taking a toll on him.
      He shouldn't be excused just because he wants to keep them safe. There's a huge difference between freedom...and peace, and his behavior makes him seem like he can't decide which is which.

      I do not think he should either, but something has him confused and everything

      Or there's this possibility that just came to mind: Eren is just an ice-cold maniac dead-set on letting rage and hate drive him when there are other ways to win a war.

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