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    • Since Fandom very smartly no longer allows us to highlight more than one post at a time, and the Season 4 announcement is equally important, I'm leaving the link here:

      Attack on Titan Season 4 (Final Season) confirmed for Fall 2020!

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    • SPOILER: This was both a good and bad finale. I did hope I guess for some big action scene or big revelation but not really. I did like the reactions to eren when he felt his dads memories, his reaction was pretty cool I guess. The flashbacks felt a bit odd to me, well not the first one, that felt appropriate but when he flashbacked of his dad trying to get through to the reiss family, I didnt get what that meant. I did like them reaching the sea in that it felt a bit rewarding cause for so long, they were held captive in the wall. Speaking of the wall, it was said they got rid of the titans inside the wall, so can someone elaborate what that means please? What I didnt particulary like is how it took them a year to go on their journey to I guess find their enemies and take them out, why does it take a year to do that? Plus that remaining titan who couldnt get there, I felt kinda bad for him cause honestly he was starving and its not like titans are evil, they are just hungry like all of us and dont know morals and whatnot. I think it was dead but with its eyes open but that one soldier, floch I think said if they should have killed it or not. Idk, I was under the impression he was dead otherwise he would have grabbed for the humans.I guess this was an alright cliffhanger overall to set up for what is to come, I guess I just hoped maybe to see the marlenians and their battle plan. But yeah that is my closing thought on season 3, I will create a blog of what I hope to see in season 4. Overall this was my favorite season of AOT, it felt like things were actually happening and progressing, season 2 felt kinda slowed down to me but season 3 picked up the pace but the whole like murder mystery, I think it was with this season with kenny the ripper, I didnt hate it but it did slow down the overall story so hopefully no more of that in season 4.
      
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    • Tommy,Klaus&Kol2012+ wrote:
      SPOILER: This was both a good and bad finale. I did hope I guess for some big action scene or big revelation but not really. I did like the reactions to eren when he felt his dads memories, his reaction was pretty cool I guess. The flashbacks felt a bit odd to me, well not the first one, that felt appropriate but when he flashbacked of his dad trying to get through to the reiss family, I didnt get what that meant. I did like them reaching the sea in that it felt a bit rewarding cause for so long, they were held captive in the wall. Speaking of the wall, it was said they got rid of the titans inside the wall, so can someone elaborate what that means please? What I didnt particulary like is how it took them a year to go on their journey to I guess find their enemies and take them out, why does it take a year to do that? Plus that remaining titan who couldnt get there, I felt kinda bad for him cause honestly he was starving and its not like titans are evil, they are just hungry like all of us and dont know morals and whatnot. I think it was dead but with its eyes open but that one soldier, floch I think said if they should have killed it or not. Idk, I was under the impression he was dead otherwise he would have grabbed for the humans.I guess this was an alright cliffhanger overall to set up for what is to come, I guess I just hoped maybe to see the marlenians and their battle plan. But yeah that is my closing thought on season 3, I will create a blog of what I hope to see in season 4. Overall this was my favorite season of AOT, it felt like things were actually happening and progressing, season 2 felt kinda slowed down to me but season 3 picked up the pace but the whole like murder mystery, I think it was with this season with kenny the ripper, I didnt hate it but it did slow down the overall story so hopefully no more of that in season 4.

      Wait you have A blog?

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    • im about to make one



      a blog post I mean

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    • Okay this finale felt like another emotional gut punch, as in it was happy one moment then it got all depressing later. I also like the end credits music, it felt epic and foreshadowed what is to come later. 

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    • I also wanted to add that someone said at the end of the episode it would reveal the final season poster, which it didnt so that means if I didnt know of this wiki or keep up with internet news, I'd have no idea if next season is the last or when it comes back



      but strangely enough, the picture of older eren looking at the sky was leaked on imdb before the episode even aired in japan or america, so that means someone leaked it, possibly someone working on the show.

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    • Tommy,Klaus&Kol2012+ wrote:
      im about to make one


      a blog post I mean

      Where...?

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    • It didn't take me as long to write the episode summary this time as I thought (probably because this adapted a single manga chapter rather than two). As an ending to Season 3 it doesn't work so well on account of being the calm before the storm. We just had a massive info time and setup for what the future is going to be like. But it's the way the manga was written so only so much Wit could do, though the filler scene with the patriot Titan was a nice touch (even though I don't know how Eren can mindread Titans now).

      SPOILER: I also want to say that this episode reminds me that I actually liked Floch a lot back in the RtS arc. Though I know he comes around to forming the cult of Eren with the other Yeagerists, now I want to see the transition from a guy willing to stand up to Eren to a guy possibly willing to die for Eren. Since he's a secondary/tertiary character it's possibly Isayama just didn't put much thought into it, but I don't see the Floch in this episode in the current manga Floch anymore.

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    • I won't comment on the episode itself, but on the credits. Some pictures from that part are panels we've seen in chapter 91, 104, 106, 108 and one I suspect to be from chapter 115 (the pannel where we see the flowers and a bit of smoke). However, there are two panels, very mysterious, that we haven't seen (yet?) in the manga.

      SPOILER: The panel where we see children in suits, and the black-haired girl looks surprised, and the panel where people are getting shot by soldiers, like an execution

      Do you think those panels will be seen in the future chapters, or those panels might be "anime-only" panels, that would illustrate something evocated in the chapters, but only through a discussion and not with a pannel dedicated to it? Any idea about what do they represent? (Of course, answer with spoiler tags, for anime-onlies).

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    • Great episode. A fantastic way to end the season. It was appropriately bittersweet, edgy, and excelled at making me want more. I don't think I've ever experienced a stronger cliffhanger ending (even though, having read the manga, I'm fully aware of what is going to happen).

      I'm glad nothing was left out, especially Floch's speech. I always felt that he was correct about Eren, how he always believed himself to be right. I also thought it to be something of a potshot at the 'never giving up' mindframe; where other shonen ALWAYS praise the trait, Isayama points out that there's a limit where, after passing it, it becomes childish stubborness and in no way a sign of strength or maturity. I always considered AoT to be something of a deconstruction of many popular shonen tropes, even thought it's not labelled or intended as that.

      I'm SO hyped for next season, which is probably gonna be the final one. Fair warning, though I don't believe it to be a spoiler, the first quarter or third is pretty dialogue and character interaction intensive, and I hope the anime adaptation doesn't change that. One negative criticism I have towards the anime is its inclination to cut short or totally omit dialogue sections from the manga, especially ones important for character development. I'm aware the ones omitted during the Uprising Arc were done at the behest of Isayama himself (and I REALLY don't get why), but still, I hope nothing is leftout this time around.

      Despite what the short and narrow-minded may think, AoT is not all action and it was never intended to be. The initial idea of humanity vs titans was done deliberately to mislead us into thinking it was going to be a straightforward black-and-white scenario, to make the impact when that changes all the stronger. However, many were so captured by that idea, that when things did change, they were unable to cope or accept. I can understand personal peferences, and there are plenty of action-packed shows out there for such people, but it still makes me a bit sad.

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    • ost at 13:15 name?

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    • Razzylada wrote: Do you think those panels will be seen in the future chapters, or those panels might be "anime-only" panels, that would illustrate something evocated in the chapters, but only through a discussion and not with a pannel dedicated to it? Any idea about what do they represent? (Of course, answer with spoiler tags, for anime-onlies).

      SPOILER: I figured they were giving us a glimpse of what life under Marley is like for present day Eldians, since Grisha left a couple decades ago and a lot can change in that amount of time. The Gabi shot I figured was a tease since we'll be seeing her in Season 4, but the execution scene intrigued me because we haven't seen that before and it's not tied to any event we know of. It's probably only to evoke a sense of feeling though, because I can't see that being done under Magath's command and given how close we're to the end I don't think we're going to see him replaced. Also, Marley's idea of execution for Eldians is to turn them into Titans, so the people they're executing would have to be non-Marleyans, which gets complicated, and that's why I think it's more a panel to evoke the feeling of a military regime and not that it's supposed to belong in the story.

      Marco1995mega wrote: I'm glad nothing was left out, especially Floch's speech. I always felt that he was correct about Eren, how he always believed himself to be right. I also thought it to be something of a potshot at the 'never giving up' mindframe; where other shonen ALWAYS praise the trait, Isayama points out that there's a limit where, after passing it, it becomes childish stubborness and in no way a sign of strength or maturity. I always considered AoT to be something of a deconstruction of many popular shonen tropes, even thought it's not labelled or intended as that.

      Yeah, Floch's speech to Eren was brilliant. Eren's stubborn insistence that his way is right has been his defining quality in the show, so for someone to come out and cast it in a negative light is shocking, but it completely makes sense when we're coming from Floch's point of view.

      I like the conversation where Eren asks Floch what he knows about Armin that makes him a poorer choice than Erwin, and Floch rightly comes back with the fact that he doesn't know Armin because he's not childhood friends with him. It shows why Eren has a bias, while Floch does not, being a third party with no personal attachments to either of the lives that could have been saved.

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    • The ending to season 3 so so good that there are no cliffhangers this is so perfectly set up the events to season 4 of the anime. 

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    • RuneLai wrote:

      Razzylada wrote: Do you think those panels will be seen in the future chapters, or those panels might be "anime-only" panels, that would illustrate something evocated in the chapters, but only through a discussion and not with a pannel dedicated to it? Any idea about what do they represent? (Of course, answer with spoiler tags, for anime-onlies).

      SPOILER: I figured they were giving us a glimpse of what life under Marley is like for present day Eldians, since Grisha left a couple decades ago and a lot can change in that amount of time. The Gabi shot I figured was a tease since we'll be seeing her in Season 4, but the execution scene intrigued me because we haven't seen that before and it's not tied to any event we know of. It's probably only to evoke a sense of feeling though, because I can't see that being done under Magath's command and given how close we're to the end I don't think we're going to see him replaced. Also, Marley's idea of execution for Eldians is to turn them into Titans, so the people they're executing would have to be non-Marleyans, which gets complicated, and that's why I think it's more a panel to evoke the feeling of a military regime and not that it's supposed to belong in the story.

      Marco1995mega wrote: I'm glad nothing was left out, especially Floch's speech. I always felt that he was correct about Eren, how he always believed himself to be right. I also thought it to be something of a potshot at the 'never giving up' mindframe; where other shonen ALWAYS praise the trait, Isayama points out that there's a limit where, after passing it, it becomes childish stubborness and in no way a sign of strength or maturity. I always considered AoT to be something of a deconstruction of many popular shonen tropes, even thought it's not labelled or intended as that.

      Yeah, Floch's speech to Eren was brilliant. Eren's stubborn insistence that his way is right has been his defining quality in the show, so for someone to come out and cast it in a negative light is shocking, but it completely makes sense when we're coming from Floch's point of view.

      I like the conversation where Eren asks Floch what he knows about Armin that makes him a poorer choice than Erwin, and Floch rightly comes back with the fact that he doesn't know Armin because he's not childhood friends with him. It shows why Eren has a bias, while Floch does not, being a third party with no personal attachments to either of the lives that could have been saved.

      I cannot really agree. Because Eren was kinda right. Without Armin the scouts would still be absolutely nowhere.

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    • WhiteOni wrote:

      I cannot really agree. Because Eren was kinda right. Without Armin the scouts would still be absolutely nowhere.

      Perhaps Eren was right about Armin, but Floch was also right about Eren (and Mikasa), and Floch is not wrong for pointing out that his objective standpoint should triumph over Eren's emotionally biased one. Heck, Armin himself believes that tactical and strategic decisions should be made based on logic rather than emotion. Floch and Hange weren't wrong about Erwin's leadership, experience, and willingness to make ruthless decisions, and logically, he was the best choice. In the end, the Scouts wouldn't have gotten this far without Erwin either.

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    • Marco1995mega wrote:

      WhiteOni wrote:

      I cannot really agree. Because Eren was kinda right. Without Armin the scouts would still be absolutely nowhere.

      Perhaps Eren was right about Armin, but Floch was also right about Eren (and Mikasa), and Floch is not wrong for pointing out that his objective standpoint should triumph over Eren's emotionally biased one. Heck, Armin himself believes that tactical and strategic decisions should be made based on logic rather than emotion. Floch and Hange weren't wrong about Erwin's leadership, experience, and willingness to make ruthless decisions, and logically, he was the best choice. In the end, the Scouts wouldn't have gotten this far without Erwin either.

      Yeah Floch may be a dick but he does bring some good points. He is just telling what it is, its harsh but its better to be honest than lying and pretending whats not.

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    • I have some questions about stuff i'm thinking about, but i dno anyone is still properly lurking here...

      So, over the span of 6 years all the Titans that were outside the wall moved in towards the humans and have slowly but surely been eradicated and now there are almost no Titans outside of the wall which i can somewhat understand. But have the Marlayans been dropping of more Titans over those 6 years? I got the sense that they didn't, and why didn't they? Why did they stop dropping in Titans?

      Why is Eren so scared about telling the Truth about being able to control the Titans when touching Royal blood? Afraid of what the military might do? Do what? Have Eren touch her? So what? And why isn't anyone questioning Eren about that Ability? This has bothered me since the start of the season tbh… But they never explored it or tried to figure out how he did it.. They just mentioned he did it and that's it... It was shown he trained Crystal powers but not the power to control titans.. Which seems million times more vital? Why isn't Hange for example helping him try to learn it? Seems like a plothole to me.

      Last question that has bothered me since it's introduction… The Titan killing wooden log traps… They mentioned Eren's crysal powers were vital in developing this tool... And now it killed all Titans. Uuuh… It's just a wooden log that drops down and then just gets hoisted back up... A log, some wood, some rope and that's it. How is the Crystalisation vital to make this thing work?

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    • WhiteOni wrote:
      I have some questions about stuff i'm thinking about, but i dno anyone is still properly lurking here...

      So, over the span of 6 years all the Titans that were outside the wall moved in towards the humans and have slowly but surely been eradicated and now there are almost no Titans outside of the wall which i can somewhat understand. But have the Marlayans been dropping of more Titans over those 6 years? I got the sense that they didn't, and why didn't they? Why did they stop dropping in Titans?

      Why is Eren so scared about telling the Truth about being able to control the Titans when touching Royal blood? Afraid of what the military might do? Do what? Have Eren touch her? So what? And why isn't anyone questioning Eren about that Ability? This has bothered me since the start of the season tbh… But they never explored it or tried to figure out how he did it.. They just mentioned he did it and that's it... It was shown he trained Crystal powers but not the power to control titans.. Which seems million times more vital? Why isn't Hange for example helping him try to learn it? Seems like a plothole to me.

      Last question that has bothered me since it's introduction… The Titan killing wooden log traps… They mentioned Eren's crysal powers were vital in developing this tool... And now it killed all Titans. Uuuh… It's just a wooden log that drops down and then just gets hoisted back up... A log, some wood, some rope and that's it. How is the Crystalisation vital to make this thing work?

      I imagine Marley did continue dropping Eldians, but after the several failed restorationist movements and the introduction of the Warrior program, the number probably declined significantly.

      The reason Eren is scared is because the power doesn't work by touching someone of royal blood, but a Titan of royal blood. He's afraid Historia would be turned into one against her will. Heck, even if she'd given her consent, he was unwilling to accept it.

      I think the military did try to figure out how Eren used the Founder, but since they don't know that Dina was the Titan Eren touched that day, there's no lead for them to use.

      The log can only be used with Eren's help becuase it's installed INTO the wall, the same wall made of hardened Titan skin, which is incredibly durable. Plus, they'd have to make it on the outside part of the wall, which would be incredibly dangerous with Titans coming at them, not to mention the time it woud take.

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    • Marco1995mega wrote:

      WhiteOni wrote:
      I have some questions about stuff i'm thinking about, but i dno anyone is still properly lurking here...

      So, over the span of 6 years all the Titans that were outside the wall moved in towards the humans and have slowly but surely been eradicated and now there are almost no Titans outside of the wall which i can somewhat understand. But have the Marlayans been dropping of more Titans over those 6 years? I got the sense that they didn't, and why didn't they? Why did they stop dropping in Titans?

      Why is Eren so scared about telling the Truth about being able to control the Titans when touching Royal blood? Afraid of what the military might do? Do what? Have Eren touch her? So what? And why isn't anyone questioning Eren about that Ability? This has bothered me since the start of the season tbh… But they never explored it or tried to figure out how he did it.. They just mentioned he did it and that's it... It was shown he trained Crystal powers but not the power to control titans.. Which seems million times more vital? Why isn't Hange for example helping him try to learn it? Seems like a plothole to me.

      Last question that has bothered me since it's introduction… The Titan killing wooden log traps… They mentioned Eren's crysal powers were vital in developing this tool... And now it killed all Titans. Uuuh… It's just a wooden log that drops down and then just gets hoisted back up... A log, some wood, some rope and that's it. How is the Crystalisation vital to make this thing work?

      I imagine Marley did continue dropping Eldians, but after the several failed restorationist movements and the introduction of the Warrior program, the number probably declined significantly.

      The reason Eren is scared is because the power doesn't work by touching someone of royal blood, but a Titan of royal blood. He's afraid Historia would be turned into one against her will. Heck, even if she'd given her consent, he was unwilling to accept it.

      I think the military did try to figure out how Eren used the Founder, but since they don't know that Dina was the Titan Eren touched that day, there's no lead for them to use.

      The log can only be used with Eren's help becuase it's installed INTO the wall, the same wall made of hardened Titan skin, which is incredibly durable. Plus, they'd have to make it on the outside part of the wall, which would be incredibly dangerous with Titans coming at them, not to mention the time it woud take.

      How does Eren even know that it only works with a TITAN of royal blood, and not a person of Royal blood… There is no way he could know that for sure… There is no reason that he couldn't tell her in private and test it... And How would they turn Historia in to a titan? They have 0 Titan fluid...

      But they could also just install it UNTOP of the wall and hoist it back up, Titans would never reach it... It doesn't make any sense.

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    • WhiteOni wrote:

      Marco1995mega wrote:

      WhiteOni wrote:
      I have some questions about stuff i'm thinking about, but i dno anyone is still properly lurking here...

      So, over the span of 6 years all the Titans that were outside the wall moved in towards the humans and have slowly but surely been eradicated and now there are almost no Titans outside of the wall which i can somewhat understand. But have the Marlayans been dropping of more Titans over those 6 years? I got the sense that they didn't, and why didn't they? Why did they stop dropping in Titans?

      Why is Eren so scared about telling the Truth about being able to control the Titans when touching Royal blood? Afraid of what the military might do? Do what? Have Eren touch her? So what? And why isn't anyone questioning Eren about that Ability? This has bothered me since the start of the season tbh… But they never explored it or tried to figure out how he did it.. They just mentioned he did it and that's it... It was shown he trained Crystal powers but not the power to control titans.. Which seems million times more vital? Why isn't Hange for example helping him try to learn it? Seems like a plothole to me.

      Last question that has bothered me since it's introduction… The Titan killing wooden log traps… They mentioned Eren's crysal powers were vital in developing this tool... And now it killed all Titans. Uuuh… It's just a wooden log that drops down and then just gets hoisted back up... A log, some wood, some rope and that's it. How is the Crystalisation vital to make this thing work?

      I imagine Marley did continue dropping Eldians, but after the several failed restorationist movements and the introduction of the Warrior program, the number probably declined significantly.

      The reason Eren is scared is because the power doesn't work by touching someone of royal blood, but a Titan of royal blood. He's afraid Historia would be turned into one against her will. Heck, even if she'd given her consent, he was unwilling to accept it.

      I think the military did try to figure out how Eren used the Founder, but since they don't know that Dina was the Titan Eren touched that day, there's no lead for them to use.

      The log can only be used with Eren's help becuase it's installed INTO the wall, the same wall made of hardened Titan skin, which is incredibly durable. Plus, they'd have to make it on the outside part of the wall, which would be incredibly dangerous with Titans coming at them, not to mention the time it woud take.

      How does Eren even know that it only works with a TITAN of royal blood, and not a person of Royal blood… There is no way he could know that for sure… There is no reason that he couldn't tell her in private and test it... And How would they turn Historia in to a titan? They have 0 Titan fluid...

      But they could also just install it UNTOP of the wall and hoist it back up, Titans would never reach it... It doesn't make any sense.

      Because he has touched Historia multiple times, and, while he did awaken memories, he never felt the sensation of "everything feeling connected" as he described it.

      It's not that simple. The log has to fall STRAIGHT down with business end aimed for the Titan at the bottom. That means making sure it doesn't swing to the side or falls awakwardly (as in, hit the Titan with the edge instead of the flat end), reducing the damage. For that, they need to have a mechanism or construct on the outside of the wall to ensure it falls completely vertically down a very certain and defined path.

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    • I guess this episode makes for a decent farewell episode for me, I certainly like the ocean scene better here than in the manga.

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    • I finally caught up with the end of the season and I have to say this was another strong adaptation of a chapter I loved in the manga.

      Pros:

      - I always felt that this chapter was pitch perfect in tone, thematic relevance, and juxtaposing triumph against melancholy and the anime translated this perfectly to the big screen with the voice actors and Studio WIT hitting all the right beats.

      - There has already been lengthy discussions about Floch's speech and I agree with the others here that it really is a great moment. However I want to give special mention to Floch's VA who perfectly captures the brutally honest and pragmatic Floch and dare I say made him somehow extremely likeable despite his harsh words due to the lack of malice that he put into his performance.

      - Another excellent performance was Eren's VA Yuki Kaji who perfectly captured the despair and growth of Eren here with that last scene especially hitting like a truck because of this.

      Overall Season Thoughts:

      I thought this was another good season of Attack On Titan with the last few episodes in particular being excellent adaptations. I would say though that this wasn't the shows best season with the animation feeling messier than prior seasons as It was really easy to see where corners were cut this season with That Day and Thunder Spears being the core offenders (lots of stills and missing animation respectively). The Colossal Titan's CGI was also incredibly hideous somehow looking worse than Envy from FA:B (I just wrapped this up yesterday) a show from 2010. These scenes I honestly would have preferred that they took their time doing handrawn animation as the CGI failed in everyway conceivable as it clashed badly with the hand drawn background, the colouring just looked wrong, the steam looked fake and was overused to mask the lacklustre model, and the Colossal looked and felt weightless with the fall scene especially being a massive downgrade compared to the manga as that panel really captured the magnitude of Bert's defeat whereas the anime just had the Colossal weakly slump over like a deflated balloon. Another problem with this season was that it barely deviated from the manga and thus carried the same critical flaw of RTS which was that everything is grand and epic but also incredibly hollow with very few big deaths (the only ones that count are Bert the least developed warrior, Marlowe a likeable tertiary character, and Erwin who's sacrifice rocks in the moment but is undercut by the lacklustre Midnight Sun) and far too much plot armour (Armin and Reiner especially) with nameless extras creating most of the casualties. Armin's resurrection is still one of the worst moments in the series as it made little to no sense (dude was incinerated and fell from 60 feet onto a brick house the chance of survival is like negative 10 thousand) , left Armin listless in the series for a incredibly long time (no spoilers), and deprived him of a satisfying character arc. This moment was perfect but Isayama immediately screwed it up by not allowing this death to stick as it gave a primary Non-shifter character a 13 in Endurance when he is shown to be frail as hell before this and the melodrama around the serum undercut both Armin and Erwin's big moments. The serum struggle would have also been better if this was used to upgrade a secondary to a main character and would have made the 13 year rule hit harder by dooming someone to a painful existence all so Eldia could gain a powerful weapon rather than because they were dying. Overall these weaknesses were prominent enough for me to say this was probably AOT's weakest season as the adaptation for once didn't really improve on what it came from (S3 P1 got quicker pacing and the earlier seasons got great animation to bring Isayama's meh early work to life) and felt like it followed the same highs (The denounment of RTS is a 100 times better than the battle and is some of AOT's greatest material) but also had the same weaknesses coupled with new flaws (animation and budget problems). It was still supremely entertaining and the last two episodes are fantastic but after wavering between a 8 and a 9 I will score the season a 8/10 as it was still very good but undeniably on the weaker side of recent watches which to be fair this is probably the greatest stretch of shows I've watched in a bit (only like two misses out of 10 shows) but still I felt like this could have been a lot better with a little bit more time and a few plot adjustments.

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    • The CGI is just a inevitability for most Japanese anime companies to cut cost because its cheap. I mean it's not a excuse of course the CGI could have been done better. But honestly there is much worse anime with much worse CGI.

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    • I know why it was done and I don't fault them for using it to speed up the schedule but I just would have preferred that they take a few extra months if needed and I know this unrealistic because the anime industry is freakishly similar to game industry but I still believe it is the right thing to do. It was excusable in S2 because it was so brief but here it was more important to nail this character when 1 third of the story relies on it for maximum impact. Honestly I know there are worse examples out there (that Berserk adaptation is a real horror) but this is a series that had been nothing short of incredible animation wise minus ironically enough the colossal in S2 and I thought that with Rod's titan being primarily being hand drawn (and damn fine too) that it would be the same here. RTS first half is primarily a visual experience as its narrative is entertaining but also flawed so this is where you have to go for it and the CGI was unfortunately remarkably poor by the series standards not industry standards (Ufotable reigns supreme here and everything else is serviceable to bad from my admittedly limited experience). 

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    • Freeman1378 wrote:
      I know why it was done and I don't fault them for using it to speed up the schedule but I just would have preferred that they take a few extra months if needed and I know this unrealistic because the anime industry is freakishly similar to game industry but I still believe it is the right thing to do. It was excusable in S2 because it was so brief but here it was more important to nail this character when 1 third of the story relies on it for maximum impact. Honestly I know there are worse examples out there (that Berserk adaptation is a real horror) but this is a series that had been nothing short of incredible animation wise minus ironically enough the colossal in S2 and I thought that with Rod's titan being primarily being hand drawn (and damn fine too) that it would be the same here. RTS first half is primarily a visual experience as its narrative is entertaining but also flawed so this is where you have to go for it and the CGI was unfortunately remarkably poor by the series standards not industry standards (Ufotable reigns supreme here and everything else is serviceable to bad from my admittedly limited experience). 

      I Do hope one day That the anime industry takes a more relax approach and makes fewer anime and of course above all else treats the animators right, and gives them credit where it's deserved. Same with the video game industry, I hope they don't take a page from EA, ACTIVISION, or Bethseda and always focusing on money but on quality and replay value. Unfortunately it's always the people on top with money that gets to make the calls. Hopefully it will take a special form of socialism to fix it. 

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    • Marco1995mega wrote:

      WhiteOni wrote:

      Marco1995mega wrote:

      WhiteOni wrote:
      I have some questions about stuff i'm thinking about, but i dno anyone is still properly lurking here...

      So, over the span of 6 years all the Titans that were outside the wall moved in towards the humans and have slowly but surely been eradicated and now there are almost no Titans outside of the wall which i can somewhat understand. But have the Marlayans been dropping of more Titans over those 6 years? I got the sense that they didn't, and why didn't they? Why did they stop dropping in Titans?

      Why is Eren so scared about telling the Truth about being able to control the Titans when touching Royal blood? Afraid of what the military might do? Do what? Have Eren touch her? So what? And why isn't anyone questioning Eren about that Ability? This has bothered me since the start of the season tbh… But they never explored it or tried to figure out how he did it.. They just mentioned he did it and that's it... It was shown he trained Crystal powers but not the power to control titans.. Which seems million times more vital? Why isn't Hange for example helping him try to learn it? Seems like a plothole to me.

      Last question that has bothered me since it's introduction… The Titan killing wooden log traps… They mentioned Eren's crysal powers were vital in developing this tool... And now it killed all Titans. Uuuh… It's just a wooden log that drops down and then just gets hoisted back up... A log, some wood, some rope and that's it. How is the Crystalisation vital to make this thing work?

      I imagine Marley did continue dropping Eldians, but after the several failed restorationist movements and the introduction of the Warrior program, the number probably declined significantly.

      The reason Eren is scared is because the power doesn't work by touching someone of royal blood, but a Titan of royal blood. He's afraid Historia would be turned into one against her will. Heck, even if she'd given her consent, he was unwilling to accept it.

      I think the military did try to figure out how Eren used the Founder, but since they don't know that Dina was the Titan Eren touched that day, there's no lead for them to use.

      The log can only be used with Eren's help becuase it's installed INTO the wall, the same wall made of hardened Titan skin, which is incredibly durable. Plus, they'd have to make it on the outside part of the wall, which would be incredibly dangerous with Titans coming at them, not to mention the time it woud take.

      How does Eren even know that it only works with a TITAN of royal blood, and not a person of Royal blood… There is no way he could know that for sure… There is no reason that he couldn't tell her in private and test it... And How would they turn Historia in to a titan? They have 0 Titan fluid...

      But they could also just install it UNTOP of the wall and hoist it back up, Titans would never reach it... It doesn't make any sense.

      Because he has touched Historia multiple times, and, while he did awaken memories, he never felt the sensation of "everything feeling connected" as he described it.

      Very late responce from me but... Did Eren actually say that? That he only felt that sensation when touching Dina's Titan form? I don't recall him saying that at all… or is this just your headcannon?

      When he touches Historia touches him earlier in the season he finally sees his father's memories... Same in the final episode, only when he touches her... So there is clearly something there. I honestly do not understand why Eren jumps to the conclusion why it only works when touching royal TITAN blood. I really think that conclusion comes out of nowhere...

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      Marco1995mega wrote:

      WhiteOni wrote:

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      WhiteOni wrote:
      I have some questions about stuff i'm thinking about, but i dno anyone is still properly lurking here...

      So, over the span of 6 years all the Titans that were outside the wall moved in towards the humans and have slowly but surely been eradicated and now there are almost no Titans outside of the wall which i can somewhat understand. But have the Marlayans been dropping of more Titans over those 6 years? I got the sense that they didn't, and why didn't they? Why did they stop dropping in Titans?

      Why is Eren so scared about telling the Truth about being able to control the Titans when touching Royal blood? Afraid of what the military might do? Do what? Have Eren touch her? So what? And why isn't anyone questioning Eren about that Ability? This has bothered me since the start of the season tbh… But they never explored it or tried to figure out how he did it.. They just mentioned he did it and that's it... It was shown he trained Crystal powers but not the power to control titans.. Which seems million times more vital? Why isn't Hange for example helping him try to learn it? Seems like a plothole to me.

      Last question that has bothered me since it's introduction… The Titan killing wooden log traps… They mentioned Eren's crysal powers were vital in developing this tool... And now it killed all Titans. Uuuh… It's just a wooden log that drops down and then just gets hoisted back up... A log, some wood, some rope and that's it. How is the Crystalisation vital to make this thing work?

      I imagine Marley did continue dropping Eldians, but after the several failed restorationist movements and the introduction of the Warrior program, the number probably declined significantly.

      The reason Eren is scared is because the power doesn't work by touching someone of royal blood, but a Titan of royal blood. He's afraid Historia would be turned into one against her will. Heck, even if she'd given her consent, he was unwilling to accept it.

      I think the military did try to figure out how Eren used the Founder, but since they don't know that Dina was the Titan Eren touched that day, there's no lead for them to use.

      The log can only be used with Eren's help becuase it's installed INTO the wall, the same wall made of hardened Titan skin, which is incredibly durable. Plus, they'd have to make it on the outside part of the wall, which would be incredibly dangerous with Titans coming at them, not to mention the time it woud take.

      How does Eren even know that it only works with a TITAN of royal blood, and not a person of Royal blood… There is no way he could know that for sure… There is no reason that he couldn't tell her in private and test it... And How would they turn Historia in to a titan? They have 0 Titan fluid...

      But they could also just install it UNTOP of the wall and hoist it back up, Titans would never reach it... It doesn't make any sense.

      Because he has touched Historia multiple times, and, while he did awaken memories, he never felt the sensation of "everything feeling connected" as he described it.
      Very late responce from me but... Did Eren actually say that? That he only felt that sensation when touching Dina's Titan form? I don't recall him saying that at all… or is this just your headcannon?

      When he touches Historia touches him earlier in the season he finally sees his father's memories... Same in the final episode, only when he touches her... So there is clearly something there. I honestly do not understand why Eren jumps to the conclusion why it only works when touching royal TITAN blood. I really think that conclusion comes out of nowhere...

      No, it's not headcanon. He said that, when he touched Dina's Titan, "everything felt connected". He did not explicitly mention that he didn't feel it with Historia, but the way he said it, very clearly and strongly implies it's the only time he ever felt that sensation. Yeah, he got memories by touching Historia, but it's obviously not the same feeling. The very fact he speculated that only by touching a royal-blood Titan would he be able to use the Founder means he didn't get that sensation with her; that is, the feeling when touching Dina's Titan (and using the Founder) and when touching Historia were not the same. Besides, other Titan shifters also received memories from previous shiifters, but they certainly can't get the feeling of "everything being connected" since none of them have the Founder. The Founder's power and the receiving of memories are two different sensations.

      Don't forget one thing: like I mentioned above, it's Eren himself who says it, who felt the sensations, who both used the Founder and received memories by touching a royal Subject of Ymir. The fact HE says it all, means he was able to differentiate the experiences and tell that simply touching royal, still human Eldian cannot grant him the power of the Founding Titan.

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