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    • I found this to be such an immensly satisfying chapter (especially with the unexpected extra suspense building over the last month). We now see Falco as a member of the Nine/Seven Titans and it was worth the wait! I noticed distinct similarities between Eren and Falco during their initial transformations into thier respective Titans, losing control and attacking their friends/comrades after transforming; I was always curious if this was a common thing for all the Titan Shifters or if Eren was just inexperienced.

      The interaction we got with Keith Shadis and Theo Magath was I think one of my favorite parts from this chapter; it certainly was an unexpected (and welcome) scene. Two world-weary soldiers from different sides have recognized both countries have altered history for their own agendas. To atone for their parts of it, they go out on their own terms to accomplish a common goal.

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    • It was "Nostalgia"?

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    • I thought they'd left Levi behind for a second, but if you look carefully he was carried to the ship on the Cart and unloaded there before the Cart went off to join the battle.

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    • Well this chapter was a mix of emotion, intense excitement, but meh in others.

      For starters, you got the protect Hazubito workers to fix the plane, which says takes a week to finish repairing which adds more fuel to the fire of "time is of the essence" here. We still have Floch and Yeagerists to taking out the Annie and Reiner with ease (they were members of the Survey Corp after all). It was cool seeing Falco's Jaw Titan form which is really different compare to the previous Titan forms, but as expected he doesn't know how to control it as it is his first try.

      Floch trying to take out the ship with one thunder spear which probably could have done some external damage but he was shot in the abdomen by Gabi, and I know some are going to say "great, Gabi took out another beloved character", but trust me I don't think Floch is dead given he feel in the water and he didn't seem too phased out. So he is definitely going to come back (much to my chagrin but he is ultranationalist that AoT needs).

      Last thing major thing (and I believe this is where the title of this chapter Retrospective comes in), was the Theo Magath and Keith Shadis moment in destroying the battleship which made me a bit sad but questioning why, because I thought they would both have a bigger role to play in rebuilding the world but nope. However I did think them interacting and comparing their experiences of trying to change the way they lived and teaching the new generation was kinda neat as they are both similar. While Theo Magath is probably everyone's least favorite character given how uninteresting he looks and acts most of the time, but he does actually have his own moments he feels to question Marley's way of living and the Eldians to some degree. He wasn't always 100% in conjecture or in agreement with military and political establishment of Marely but reluctantly followed orders as he is a soldier but is good to see that he saw the errors in his ways. Keith Shadis who wanted to change the way people think while Failed but he does believe to teach the next generation to make sure they would grow and maybe change the way of living. And respect to Shadis for taking out the train that was carrying reinforcements to the Yeagerists.

      So a good chapter not perfect but good enough.

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    • Tdfern14 wrote:
      Well this chapter was a mix of emotion, intense excitement, but meh in others.

      For starters, you got the protect Hazubito workers to fix the plane, which says takes a week to finish repairing which adds more fuel to the fire of "time is of the essence" here. We still have Floch and Yeagerists to taking out the Annie and Reiner with ease (they were members of the Survey Corp after all). It was cool seeing Falco's Jaw Titan form which is really different compare to the previous Titan forms, but as expected he doesn't know how to control it as it is his first try.

      Floch trying to take out the ship with one thunder spear which probably could have done some external damage but he was shot in the abdomen by Gabi, and I know some are going to say "great, Gabi took out another beloved character", but trust me I don't think Floch is dead given he feel in the water and he didn't seem too phased out. So he is definitely going to come back (much to my chagrin but he is ultranationalist that AoT needs).

      Last thing major thing (and I believe this is where the title of this chapter Retrospective comes in), was the Theo Magath and Keith Shadis moment in destroying the battleship which made me a bit sad but questioning why, because I thought they would both have a bigger role to play in rebuilding the world but nope. However I did think them interacting and comparing their experiences of trying to change the way they lived and teaching the new generation was kinda neat as they are both similar. While Theo Magath is probably everyone's least favorite character given how uninteresting he looks and acts most of the time, but he does actually have his own moments he feels to question Marley's way of living and the Eldians to some degree. He wasn't always 100% in conjecture or in agreement with military and political establishment of Marely but reluctantly followed orders as he is a soldier but is good to see that he saw the errors in his ways. Keith Shadis who wanted to change the way people think while Failed but he does believe to teach the next generation to make sure they would grow and maybe change the way of living. And respect to Shadis for taking out the train that was carrying reinforcements to the Yeagerists.

      So a good chapter not perfect but good enough.

      Anyway, why Theo and Keith are destroying the battleship? Where is Levi? Where is Eren? What happened to the others? This is such a sad... They are appear in the next chapter.

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    • This chapter was released in May 9th, but It was released today in English release and Original release is tomorrow. Last month, it wasn't released becase the goddamn Coronavirus (COVID-19), but the chapter 130 is the final chapter and the manga is over? Isn't it?

      The anime series is was delayed. It was airing in Fall 2020 because is not show the release date. What the hell is happening? When isn't have a Season 5 or more spin-off? 

      Do you think about the the penultimate chapter, guys? How y'all feeling?

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    • Tdfern14 wrote:

      For starters, you got the protect Hazubito workers to fix the plane, which says takes a week to finish repairing which adds more fuel to the fire of "time is of the essence" here.

      Actually, they said it would take a day to run maintenance on the plane; half a day with good equipment.

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    • Elal08 wrote: It was "Nostalgia"?

      It should be called "Nostalgia", yes. The Japanese title is 懐古 (kaiko), which translates to nostalgia. Not sure why it's being called "Retrospective" on here. Everywhere else has it titled "Nostalgia".

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    • CaptFredricks wrote:

      Elal08 wrote: It was "Nostalgia"?

      It should be called "Nostalgia", yes. The Japanese title is 懐古 (kaiko), which translates to nostalgia. Not sure why it's being called "Retrospective" on here. Everywhere else has it titled "Nostalgia".

      You're right! The title of this chapter is the unofficial translate because I was reading before release. It's titled "Nostalgia", not "Retrospective".

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    • Elal08 wrote: This chapter was released in May 9th, but It was released today in English release and Original release is tomorrow. Last month, it wasn't released becase the goddamn Coronavirus (COVID-19), but the chapter 130 is the final chapter and the manga is over? Isn't it?

      The anime series is was delayed. It was airing in Fall 2020 because is not show the release date. What the hell is happening? When isn't have a Season 5 or more spin-off? 

      Do you think about the the penultimate chapter, guys? How y'all feeling?

      There's no way 130 is the last chapter. The last one might be 134. Too much still has to happen for only 1 chapter.

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    • CaptFredricks wrote:

      Elal08 wrote: This chapter was released in May 9th, but It was released today in English release and Original release is tomorrow. Last month, it wasn't released becase the goddamn Coronavirus (COVID-19), but the chapter 130 is the final chapter and the manga is over? Isn't it?

      The anime series is was delayed. It was airing in Fall 2020 because is not show the release date. What the hell is happening? When isn't have a Season 5 or more spin-off? 

      Do you think about the the penultimate chapter, guys? How y'all feeling?

      There's no way 130 is the last chapter. The last one might be 134. Too much still has to happen for only 1 chapter.

      Good grief. It have a Volume 33?

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    • Elal08 wrote:
      This chapter was released in May 9th, but It was released today in English release and Original release is tomorrow. Last month, it wasn't released becase the goddamn Coronavirus (COVID-19), but the chapter 130 is the final chapter and the manga is over? Isn't it?

      The anime series is was delayed. It was airing in Fall 2020 because is not show the release date. What the hell is happening? When isn't have a Season 5 or more spin-off? 

      Do you think about the the penultimate chapter, guys? How y'all feeling?

      How could chapter 130 be the final chapter ? Only one chapter left would be hella rushed. And Isayama said in a recent interview (6 june) that 5% of the story was still to tell. Which means something between one or two volumes (or a big volume, with 6 chapters, maybe something like that).

      For the chapter, my first impression was not really good, but the two-months waiting are mostly to blame, after some re-readings, it felt better, and now I like the chapter.

      Pros :

      - The fights were nice to read. It wasn't the most exciting fights of the manga, but that was still a good moment. 

      - Now that this is done, we're trully entering in the final part of the manga. We might have have chapter 130 ends with an actual appearance of the Rumbling, with Eren's Titan form. 

      - Seems like a part of the final will be at Odiha. It's nice because it ads some lore. And lore is always welcomed.

      - The Magath/Shadis scene. I didn't get vibes from this scene, but I think in the anime I will, with the OST, the voice acting, all that. 

      Cons :

      - I get that most of the Yeagerists are newbies, but sometimes the way they missed the member of the alliance was really too much (I think that some of them were in Liberio and they did well there). It really felt anticlimatic, there wasn't any tension. And at the end, the sacrifice of Shadis and Magath feels like a synthetic way to give this battle more weight (doesn't mean I didn't like that scene by itself tho).

      Other :

      - I really don't like at all the design of Falco's Titan. Yeah, I get the Falco/falcon thing, but I can't appreciate this design. Especially as on some panels the Titan litterally changes of face (look at the first panel and compare with other panels of the Titan). However, I don't put that as a cons, because it's just a visual, an artistic choice.

      - Why would Annie still thinks she still might see her father in Liberio ? It is already destroyed ! However, that doesn't mean all of the habitants were killed. I think the point of the short part of Liberio in 125 (with the rebellion) was not just to show the reaction of Eren's message but also to make us understand that the people living in the camp might have fleed by taking the train (right after they made their rebellion).

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    • Razzylada wrote:
      Elal08 wrote:
      This chapter was released in May 9th, but It was released today in English release and Original release is tomorrow. Last month, it wasn't released becase the goddamn Coronavirus (COVID-19), but the chapter 130 is the final chapter and the manga is over? Isn't it?

      The anime series is was delayed. It was airing in Fall 2020 because is not show the release date. What the hell is happening? When isn't have a Season 5 or more spin-off? 

      Do you think about the the penultimate chapter, guys? How y'all feeling?

      How could chapter 130 be the final chapter ? Only one chapter left would be hella rushed. And Isayama said in a recent interview (6 june) that 5% of the story was still to tell. Which means something between one or two volumes (or a big volume, with 6 chapters, maybe something like that).

      For the chapter, my first impression was not really good, but the two-months waiting are mostly to blame, after some re-readings, it felt better, and now I like the chapter.

      Pros :

      - The fights were nice to read. It wasn't the most exciting fights of the manga, but that was still a good moment. 

      - Now that this is done, we're trully entering in the final part of the manga. We might have have chapter 130 ends with an actual appearance of the Rumbling, with Eren's Titan form. 

      - Seems like a part of the final will be at Odiha. It's nice because it ads some lore. And lore is always welcomed.

      - The Magath/Shadis scene. I didn't get vibes from this scene, but I think in the anime I will, with the OST, the voice acting, all that. 

      Cons :

      - I get that most of the Yeagerists are newbies, but sometimes the way they missed the member of the alliance was really too much (I think that some of them were in Liberio and they did well there). It really felt anticlimatic, there wasn't any tension. And at the end, the sacrifice of Shadis and Magath feels like a synthetic way to give this battle more weight (doesn't mean I didn't like that scene by itself tho).

      Other :

      - I really don't like at all the design of Falco's Titan. Yeah, I get the Falco/falcon thing, but I can't appreciate this design. Especially as on some panels the Titan litterally changes of face (look at the first panel and compare with other panels of the Titan). However, I don't put that as a cons, because it's just a visual, an artistic choice.

      - Why would Annie still thinks she still might see her father in Liberio ? It is already destroyed ! However, that doesn't mean all of the habitants were killed. I think the point of the short part of Liberio in 125 (with the rebellion) was not just to show the reaction of Eren's message but also to make us understand that the people living in the camp might have fleed by taking the train (right after they made their rebellion).

      Oh wow... How...? Yes, it's true

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    • CaptFredricks wrote:

      Elal08 wrote: This chapter was released in May 9th, but It was released today in English release and Original release is tomorrow. Last month, it wasn't released becase the goddamn Coronavirus (COVID-19), but the chapter 130 is the final chapter and the manga is over? Isn't it?

      The anime series is was delayed. It was airing in Fall 2020 because is not show the release date. What the hell is happening? When isn't have a Season 5 or more spin-off? 

      Do you think about the the penultimate chapter, guys? How y'all feeling?

      There's no way 130 is the last chapter. The last one might be 134. Too much still has to happen for only 1 chapter.

      In view of the latest news (Isayama said recently he lacks 5% to finish his work, but that 5% could be referring to his basic manuscript - that it is subject to final changes; for example, in his basic manuscript, Pieck was a man-; after all, in 2015 he mentioned that he had already exceeded 50/60% when it was finished to reach volume 15/16, so in theory he should finish it with the volume 27, but we are already going through chapters that would make up volume 33), and the high chances that anime and manga will end at the same time (considering that this season will probably be divided into 2 parts as the third season or, otherwise, it will begin its broadcast in November/December), I think the last chapter will be 138.

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    • I can't wait for Penguinluver's reaction to Gabi killing Floch. XD

      Also, Gabi should teach a master class on noscoping people.

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    • CaptFredricks wrote:
      I can't wait for Penguinluver's reaction to Gabi killing Floch. XD

      Also, Gabi should teach a master class on noscoping people.

      Floch isn't dead. I think we will see him again.

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    • Linense wrote:

      CaptFredricks wrote:
      I can't wait for Penguinluver's reaction to Gabi killing Floch. XD

      Also, Gabi should teach a master class on noscoping people.

      Floch isn't dead. I think we will see him again.

      The Yeagerists have been wiped out. Even if he's not dead, what can he do at this point?

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    • Well, that is a very interesting chapter.  It has a lot of actions in it, and answered some old questions such as about Erens' first transformation during the 'Battle of Trost'.

      Something is telling me that Isayama Hajime is planning to set up the Survey Corp/Marley Warrior alliance towards failing and getting defeated.  With the death of Theo Magath, it feels like that this alliance has just got out of one trouble and is going into another.  In another words 'Out of a frying pan...and into the fire'.  It is telling me that this will be the end of their alliance in several chapters later.

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    • CaptFredricks wrote:
      I can't wait for Penguinluver's reaction to Gabi killing Floch. XD

      Also, Gabi should teach a master class on noscoping people.

      I hope it inspires them to at least come up with some new material rather than copy pasting the same words from the other threads.

      Also I agree with the sentiment in the above posts that I never felt any of the good guys were in danger in this battle. Nobody even got injured. I at least expected some of the Azumabito to be killed or injured. But literally everyone got out of there without a scratch, except the titan shifters where obviously the injuries mean nothing.

      Even Shadis only died because he more or less committed suicide. Imagine how impactful Magath's death would have been if Floch went onto the ship, talked a little, killed both Magath and Shadis, only to realize that they had already set the ship to explode. It then explodes, and we still get the mystery about whether Floch died or escaped the explosion.

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    • Razzylada wrote:

      - Why would Annie still thinks she still might see her father in Liberio ? It is already destroyed !

      It's not yet. Hange says "Even if we stopped Eren using the best methods possible, it would already be too late for Liberio." Since she uses "would," this means at the point she's saying it, Liberio still exists. It won't exist for much longer given the half of a day delay Kiyomi was talking about, but judging from Hange's reaction the original plan did not account for that. They expected to get out in time.

      Notably, Annie is not around to hear this conversation, and Mikasa doesn't exactly elaborate about the change on plans, so Annie has no idea what's going on other than she needs to provide cover. It's reasonable for her to still think about going back to Liberio and finding her dad.


      Anyway, my thoughts on the chapter:

      I really don't like Isayama's sense of geographic scale. As in, I don't think he has any. Hange says the Titans will cover 600km in the half day it would take the engineers to prep the plane. Being generous and assuming the engineers only talking about waking hours, let's give the Titans a walking speed of 100km/hr (62 mph for American folks).

      The state of California is about 1300km (or 800 miles) long. This is going north to south. So the Wall Titans could cover the entire state in a little over half a day. We can be generous and assume that there are enough Titans that they can stand shoulder to shoulder and cover the state west-east as they march from the southern border to the north. This means we have a line of Titans 400km (250 mi) wide. That's a long line of Titans!

      However California is not the entire west coast of the North American continent. There's another 1100km (700 miles) to get to Canada. So that's a full day just to get from Mexico to Canada and we're only covering the United States. If we keep the 400km wide line of Titans, and assuming repositioning them takes no additional time, it would take them roughly ten sweeps going north to south, or ten full days, to wipe out just the United States (ignoring Alaska and Hawaii).

      In a nutshell, Marley has to be on a small continent, roughly the size of Australia for them to be flattened in four days. It would still be a tragedy, but most of the world's population would still be intact. And I don't think this is the scale Isayama is picturing.

      Ever since Hange started predicting Titan arrival times last chapter I can't help feeling that Isayama is playing fast and lose with time and distance because he actually doesn't have a good concept of how far away or how big anything is, which is why it keeps tripping my BS-detector.

      Quick thoughts for the rest:

      • Don't like the weird double jaw thing on Falco's Jaw Titan. It's got beast jaws and then human jaws, which just looks strange to me.
      • Reiner protecting Annie was a nice moment. It doesn't strike me as something he would have done when he was trying to be a Marco replacement, nor something he would have done when he was a weaker kid.
      • Falco's not a very inspiring leader, even though he asks people to devote their hearts like Erwin. I'm not sure if Isayama was intentionally making him a pale echo, but he certainly felt like one. I don't like the guy, but I feel like it should have been presented as a more inspiring moment so we understand why all these nameless Yeagerist characters are following him.
      • The reinforcement train was not well handled. I get that it was foreshadowing that they had help in the form of Shadis, but the narrative whiplash from "oh no, we have to stop it!" to "oh no, it blew up!" on a single page was pretty painful. Isayama could have had a couple panels of a lone Yeagerist trying to draw a bead on someone from a good sniping position only to have him killed by a mysterious attacker and it would have served the same purpose without janking the reader around.
      • Gabi shooting Floch was great. Girl's got good aim.
      • Magath freeing Falco also great. Given his instructions for Pieck to hold him down, I have to wonder if Magath has actually cut open multiple Titan napes to free various Warriors following their first transformation. Dude's gotta have guts to do this every time a new Warrior gets a Titan.
      • Regarding the ending sacrifice, Magath dying was good. I bought it. He realized he'd done horrible things by making soldiers out of children and the least he can do now is make sure those kids get to freedom and possibly save the world. While someone else could have stayed behind, Magath decided he'd be the one to do it instead of sharing his plans.
      • On the other hand, Keith dying was dumb. I'm glad he found something worth fighting for again. He's wearing the wings of freedom on his jacket in this chapter. But the whole "yeah, I've been looking for a time to die" doesn't speak to me. If he was actively holding off the Yeagerists so the room couldn't be breached, that would have been fine, but he was just hanging out. I'm guessing he was there to serve as a parallel to Magath, being another older mentor figure, but it didn't work for me.
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    • Linense wrote:

      Floch isn't dead. I think we will see him again.

      He most likely has survived but injured from that explosion.  We will know for certain when Survey Corp returns and gets arrested for their warcrimes against Paradise Island (a hunch).  After all, they did betrayed their nation in order to save humanity.  The Paradisians will not see them or anyone working with the Survey Corp as heros and saviours.

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    • RuneLai wrote:

      Razzylada wrote:

      - Why would Annie still thinks she still might see her father in Liberio ? It is already destroyed !

      It's not yet. Hange says "Even if we stopped Eren using the best methods possible, it would already be too late for Liberio." Since she uses "would," this means at the point she's saying it, Liberio still exists. It won't exist for much longer given the half of a day delay Kiyomi was talking about, but judging from Hange's reaction the original plan did not account for that. They expected to get out in time.

      Notably, Annie is not around to hear this conversation, and Mikasa doesn't exactly elaborate about the change on plans, so Annie has no idea what's going on other than she needs to provide cover. It's reasonable for her to still think about going back to Liberio and finding her dad.


      Anyway, my thoughts on the chapter:

      I really don't like Isayama's sense of geographic scale. As in, I don't think he has any. Hange says the Titans will cover 600km in the half day it would take the engineers to prep the plane. Being generous and assuming the engineers only talking about waking hours, let's give the Titans a walking speed of 100km/hr (62 mph for American folks).

      The state of California is about 1300km (or 800 miles) long. This is going north to south. So the Wall Titans could cover the entire state in a little over half a day. We can be generous and assume that there are enough Titans that they can stand shoulder to shoulder and cover the state west-east as they march from the southern border to the north. This means we have a line of Titans 400km (250 mi) wide. That's a long line of Titans!

      However California is not the entire west coast of the North American continent. There's another 1100km (700 miles) to get to Canada. So that's a full day just to get from Mexico to Canada and we're only covering the United States. If we keep the 400km wide line of Titans, and assuming repositioning them takes no additional time, it would take them roughly ten sweeps going north to south, or ten full days, to wipe out just the United States (ignoring Alaska and Hawaii).

      In a nutshell, Marley has to be on a small continent, roughly the size of Australia for them to be flattened in four days. It would still be a tragedy, but most of the world's population would still be intact. And I don't think this is the scale Isayama is picturing.

      Ever since Hange started predicting Titan arrival times last chapter I can't help feeling that Isayama is playing fast and lose with time and distance because he actually doesn't have a good concept of how far away or how big anything is, which is why it keeps tripping my BS-detector.

      I agree with you that Isayama has no sense of geographic distances. After all, the world of AoT is identical to ours but backwards (our north is their south, and viceversa), with Madagascar being the island of Paradis.

      However, Madagascar has an extension of about 587,000 square kilometers and the territory within the walls (based on the distances between the Walls (the Maria Wall is about 100 km from the Rose Wall, the Rose Wall is about 130 km from the Sina Wall, and the Sina Wall has a radius of 250 km), and knowing that the Walls are not perfect circles), at a minimum, the territory within the Maria wall must exceed 700,000 square kilometers.

      And we still have the distance between the Maria Wall and the coast, which must be similar to the 2 thirds of the distance between the Maria and Rose Walls, at a minimum, because otherwise, some expedition outside the Walls would have already discovered the sea before the chapter 90.

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    • RuneLai you made some mistakes your 3rd Quick Thought, you mistakenly said Falco instead of Floch. Likewise I think you meant Marcel instead of Marco for who Reiner was trying to replace. Regardless I liked the chapter & look forward to the conclusion of Volume 32 next month. Still with how much remains in the story I find it hard to believe Attack on Titan can just end within the next 6 chapters without feeling rushed.

      We still have Zeke in play & we haven't seen him since Volume 30, I wouldn't be surprised if he ended up returning before this all ended. For all we know Magath & Shadis could end up still being barely alive after this chapter somehow, we just don't know. Isayama's good at keeping us guessing as to what will happen next in this action packed series & we'll probably have to wait another 2 months before we can learn what's happening with Eren.

      I heard a theory that Eren has no intention of ending the world, in which case that would explain how the series could end in Volume 33. Of course if that happened it would be kind of disappointing for a climax & we still need an explanation to Chapter 121 which contradicts that theory. All we can do is wait until December & see what happens in this series. It would be awesome if we were still getting chapters 1 year from now, even though Isayama wants to end things by the end of this year. I personally want the Final Season to have at least 33 Episodes & be split into 3 parts.

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    • Floch got fucked. Not that I care enough about him to feel bad. Also kinda hoped Shadis and Magath would last longer but I did like there final scene.

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    • Elal08 wrote:
      CaptFredricks wrote:

      Elal08 wrote: This chapter was released in May 9th, but It was released today in English release and Original release is tomorrow. Last month, it wasn't released becase the goddamn Coronavirus (COVID-19), but the chapter 130 is the final chapter and the manga is over? Isn't it?

      The anime series is was delayed. It was airing in Fall 2020 because is not show the release date. What the hell is happening? When isn't have a Season 5 or more spin-off? 

      Do you think about the the penultimate chapter, guys? How y'all feeling?

      There's no way 130 is the last chapter. The last one might be 134. Too much still has to happen for only 1 chapter.
      Good grief. It have a Volume 33?

      There's going to be 1-2 new volumes for sure. As others have mentioned here, Isayama gave a rought estimate of "about 5% remaining". Depending on whether you include chap 129 in the completed 95%, you calculate 5% to be 6-7 chps, and really I think that 129 should be included in the calculation due to the fact that at the time of the interview, Isayama already submitted the chapter to the magazine. But anyways, since it wasn't an exact figure, its safe to assume the actual length to the ending is slighly more than 6-7 chps, as any lower would've not required an estimation. Instead Isayama would've prob just said "there's only one volume left" or something more exact, just like other authors had done around this point. 

      So yeah, atleast one more volume remaining. 

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    • Jayrob95 wrote:
      Floch got fucked. Not that I care enough about him to feel bad. Also kinda hoped Shadis and Magath would last longer but I did like there final scene.

      Maybe atleast one of them jumped from the boat.  I got a bad feeling Floch isn't dead, so I hope one of them still is.

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    • Attackcjc wrote:

      Maybe atleast one of them jumped from the boat.  I got a bad feeling Floch isn't dead, so I hope one of them still is.

      Base on what I have seen in this chapter, I have doubts about either Shadis or Magath could have survived.  After all, they were well within that blast radius and also was trapped within the room by Yeagerists Faction.  Not to mention, they were ready to die for a cause.  But if they did survived, that would be legendary, even for me.

      Floch Forster, I would understand if he has survived.  But if Floch doesn't...oh well.

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    • Warrior655 wrote:
      Attackcjc wrote:

      Maybe atleast one of them jumped from the boat.  I got a bad feeling Floch isn't dead, so I hope one of them still is.

      Base on what I have seen in this chapter, I have doubts about either Shadis or Magath could have survived.  After all, they were well within that blast radius and also was trapped within the room by Yeagerists Faction.  Not to mention, they were ready to die for a cause.  But if they did survived, that would be legendary, even for me.

      Floch Forster, I would understand if he has survived.  But if Floch doesn't...oh well.

      Well only one of them had to stay behind and shoot, so there's that. I'm not getting my hopes up about them, but it would be very ironic if only Floch survived, even if he does so more understandably, but even he may be dead too. I kinda hope that Floch is gone now, but that was the least lethal shoot I've seen Gabi take. I thought at first she blew off his arm, but then I saw he still had both. So he got hit in the shoulder area, and that's not THAT dangerous a spot to get shot.

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    • WaterKirby1994 wrote: RuneLai you made some mistakes your 3rd Quick Thought, you mistakenly said Falco instead of Floch. Likewise I think you meant Marcel instead of Marco for who Reiner was trying to replace.

      Lol, yeah. My brain was pretty fried yesterday after editing the wiki's chapter 129 page and then doing all my napkin math. I made many more grammar mistakes in my editing than I usually did, though I caught them pretty quickly while proofreading. (At least I hope I caught them. >.> Maybe a few escaped.)

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    • Attackcjc wrote:

      Well only one of them had to stay behind and shoot, so there's that. I'm not getting my hopes up about them, but it would be very ironic if only Floch survived, even if he does so more understandably, but even he may be dead too. I kinda hope that Floch is gone now, but that was the least lethal shoot I've seen Gabi take. I thought at first she blew off his arm, but then I saw he still had both. So he got hit in the shoulder area, and that's not THAT dangerous a spot to get shot.

      Here is to hoping then.

      Judging from the angle when Floch Forster, it looks like his arm got blown off.  However, the distance wouldn't be able to prove if his arms did got blown away.  We will learn more about Floch & his arm fate in future chapters, along with Shadis and Magath as well.

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    • Warrior655 wrote:
      Attackcjc wrote:

      Well only one of them had to stay behind and shoot, so there's that. I'm not getting my hopes up about them, but it would be very ironic if only Floch survived, even if he does so more understandably, but even he may be dead too. I kinda hope that Floch is gone now, but that was the least lethal shoot I've seen Gabi take. I thought at first she blew off his arm, but then I saw he still had both. So he got hit in the shoulder area, and that's not THAT dangerous a spot to get shot.

      Here is to hoping then.

      Judging from the angle when Floch Forster, it looks like his arm got blown off.  However, the distance wouldn't be able to prove if his arms did got blown away.  We will learn more about Floch & his arm fate in future chapters, along with Shadis and Magath as well.

      Yeah let's hope for them. But yeah his arm did get blown off, but you can then see in the far-off shot of him afterwards that his arm is still there. Besides, I think Isayama would've been more graphic had he really lost an arm.  I do hope we learn more IF atleast one of them is set to return.

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    • Warrior655 wrote:
      Attackcjc wrote:

      Well only one of them had to stay behind and shoot, so there's that. I'm not getting my hopes up about them, but it would be very ironic if only Floch survived, even if he does so more understandably, but even he may be dead too. I kinda hope that Floch is gone now, but that was the least lethal shoot I've seen Gabi take. I thought at first she blew off his arm, but then I saw he still had both. So he got hit in the shoulder area, and that's not THAT dangerous a spot to get shot.

      Here is to hoping then.

      Judging from the angle when Floch Forster, it looks like his arm got blown off.  However, the distance wouldn't be able to prove if his arms did got blown away.  We will learn more about Floch & his arm fate in future chapters, along with Shadis and Magath as well.

      Although the shot didn't directly amputate his arm, in case Floch survived and was rescued by some comrades (I do not believe that all the Yeagaristas in the port have died; in addition, it is very possible that there were reinforcements on the way, coming from other districts of the old walls, since they seem to now control all Paradis; after all, he managed to anticipate the Disney alliance, arriving earlier at the port), the treatment to save him could need the total amputation of his arm. And all this, without forgetting the scant possibility that he has managed to get into what the boat is towing.

      PS: I have a theory as to why Zeke hasn't appeared yet. We still don't really know all that it takes for founder Ymir to side with Eren, but perhaps he (thinks that he) needs to be with Zeke indefinitely to continue to control the founding titan, so Zeke could be found imprisoned inside the giant titan founder of Eren, where Eren would mutilate him from time to time to prevent him from transforming into the beast titan.

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    • CaptFredricks wrote:

      Linense wrote:

      CaptFredricks wrote:
      I can't wait for Penguinluver's reaction to Gabi killing Floch. XD

      Also, Gabi should teach a master class on noscoping people.

      Floch isn't dead. I think we will see him again.

      The Yeagerists have been wiped out. Even if he's not dead, what can he do at this point?

      All I saw that Floch got shot in the arm or abdomen and dropped into the water. I think he got hold the floating plane behind the ship and stowaway in the ship. Farfetch but it seems not impossible.

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    • Attackcjc wrote:

      Yeah let's hope for them. But yeah his arm did get blown off, but you can then see in the far-off shot of him afterwards that his arm is still there. Besides, I think Isayama would've been more graphic had he really lost an arm.  I do hope we learn more IF atleast one of them is set to return.

      Yeah, and I also re-read the chapter again.  As Floch Forsters' arm got blown off, there was a stream of smoke coming from that explosion leading into the water.  Either that would indicate Flochs' aim went off course, or because a large chunch of his arm splash there.

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    • Floch's arm didn't get shot off, it was obviously his thunder spear that hit the water. He was shot in the shoulder by a conventional rifle. This wasn't an anti-titan rifle, it's not even capable of blowing someone's arm off. 

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    • Linense wrote:

      Although the shot didn't directly amputate his arm, in case Floch survived and was rescued by some comrades (I do not believe that all the Yeagaristas in the port have died; in addition, it is very possible that there were reinforcements on the way, coming from other districts of the old walls, since they seem to now control all Paradis; after all, he managed to anticipate the Disney alliance, arriving earlier at the port), the treatment to save him could need the total amputation of his arm. And all this, without forgetting the scant possibility that he has managed to get into what the boat is towing.

      PS: I have a theory as to why Zeke hasn't appeared yet. We still don't really know all that it takes for founder Ymir to side with Eren, but perhaps he (thinks that he) needs to be with Zeke indefinitely to continue to control the founding titan, so Zeke could be found imprisoned inside the giant titan founder of Eren, where Eren would mutilate him from time to time to prevent him from transforming into the beast titan.

      I agree with you there about Flochs' arm and him still alive.  It is because something telling me that when the Survey Corp reuturns, they will get a nasty surprise from Paradisians.  And, it will not be a friendly or heroes welcome back home.

      Your theory about Zeke Yeager does sounds like a possibility.  There are parts of me believing in that theory with Eren still needing his big half-brother to keep the connection as well.  I also believe in the possibility that Eren Yeager has already got full access to Ymir, and is no longer in need of Zeke anymore.  Not to mention that I also believe the massive titan is actually Zeke Yeager himself.  Believing that Eren Yeager transformed Zeke into that titan and to be used as bait towards leading the Survey Corp/Warrior alliance away from him.

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    • Warrior655 wrote:
      Linense wrote:

      Although the shot didn't directly amputate his arm, in case Floch survived and was rescued by some comrades (I do not believe that all the Yeagaristas in the port have died; in addition, it is very possible that there were reinforcements on the way, coming from other districts of the old walls, since they seem to now control all Paradis; after all, he managed to anticipate the Disney alliance, arriving earlier at the port), the treatment to save him could need the total amputation of his arm. And all this, without forgetting the scant possibility that he has managed to get into what the boat is towing.

      PS: I have a theory as to why Zeke hasn't appeared yet. We still don't really know all that it takes for founder Ymir to side with Eren, but perhaps he (thinks that he) needs to be with Zeke indefinitely to continue to control the founding titan, so Zeke could be found imprisoned inside the giant titan founder of Eren, where Eren would mutilate him from time to time to prevent him from transforming into the beast titan.

      I agree with you there about Flochs' arm and him still alive.  It is because something telling me that when the Survey Corp reuturns, they will get a nasty surprise from Paradisians.  And, it will not be a friendly or heroes welcome back home.

      Your theory about Zeke Yeager does sounds like a possibility.  There are parts of me believing in that theory with Eren still needing his big half-brother to keep the connection as well.  I also believe in the possibility that Eren Yeager has already got full access to Ymir, and is no longer in need of Zeke anymore.  Not to mention that I also believe the massive titan is actually Zeke Yeager himself.  Believing that Eren Yeager transformed Zeke into that titan and to be used as bait towards leading the Survey Corp/Warrior alliance away from him.

      Your last opinion is very interesting, but if Eren could do that to Zeke, why hasn't he done it with the other changing titans (at least, with the enemies named Reiner, Pieck, Annie and Falco)? This would ensure that no one intrudes on the Rumbling.

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    • Linense wrote:

      Your last opinion is very interesting, but if Eren could do that to Zeke, why hasn't he done it with the other changing titans (at least, with the enemies named Reiner, Pieck, Annie and Falco)? This would ensure that no one intrudes on the Rumbling.

      Perhaps during the attack on Shiganshina Dristrict by Marley, Eren Yeager couldn't be able to turn those titans back into humans.  Eren Yeager probably wasn't expecting the invasion so soon.  He probably plan on having Zeke Yeager to meet him at Shiganshina.  And then, trick Zeke into allowing Eren full access of the Founding Titan powers without any interference.  However, Eren did not anticipated that Marley would attack and target him with everything they got.  It would have drained a lot of his power by fighting them and getting injured (Gabis' sharpshooting) before coming into contact with Zeke Yeager.

      After Eren Yeager finally acquires full access to the Founding Titans' power, he must be running on fumes.  With little power he has left, Eren Yeager heals himself, unleash the rumbling and communicate towards every Subjects of Ymir everywhere.  Plus, not only does he has full access with the Founding Titan, Eren Yeager probably now have total control of his Attack Titan power as well.  With the Attack Titan special power, Eren Yeager probably saw something.  He probably saw the alliance between Survey Corp and Marley Warriors, and that they are planning on stopping him.

      Eren Yeager probably saw this alliance as a threat that could perhaps destroy Paradise and wipeout all Eldian kind, from his POV.  In a weaken state he is in, Eren Yeager summons enough strength towards creating somekind of diversion to divert the alliance away from him.  That diversion would be Zeke Yeager turning into the massive titan, and then directs him towards Marley.  It would give Eren Yeager more then enough time to recuperate and regain his strength before proceeding towards another objective.

      As for the Marley Warriors who still can turn into titans at will.  It is proabably part of Eren Yeagers' plan to allow them use their powers until they reach Marley.  Once there, Eren Yeager would spring some kind of trap and perhaps steal their powers just as they try to do it towards him.

      That is my theory so far.  What do you think?

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    • Warrior655 wrote:
      Linense wrote:

      Your last opinion is very interesting, but if Eren could do that to Zeke, why hasn't he done it with the other changing titans (at least, with the enemies named Reiner, Pieck, Annie and Falco)? This would ensure that no one intrudes on the Rumbling.

      Perhaps during the attack on Shiganshina Dristrict by Marley, Eren Yeager couldn't be able to turn those titans back into humans.  Eren Yeager probably wasn't expecting the invasion so soon.  He probably plan on having Zeke Yeager to meet him at Shiganshina.  And then, trick Zeke into allowing Eren full access of the Founding Titan powers without any interference.  However, Eren did not anticipated that Marley would attack and target him with everything they got.  It would have drained a lot of his power by fighting them and getting injured (Gabis' sharpshooting) before coming into contact with Zeke Yeager.

      After Eren Yeager finally acquires full access to the Founding Titans' power, he must be running on fumes.  With little power he has left, Eren Yeager heals himself, unleash the rumbling and communicate towards every Subjects of Ymir everywhere.  Plus, not only does he has full access with the Founding Titan, Eren Yeager probably now have total control of his Attack Titan power as well.  With the Attack Titan special power, Eren Yeager probably saw something.  He probably saw the alliance between Survey Corp and Marley Warriors, and that they are planning on stopping him.

      Eren Yeager probably saw this alliance as a threat that could perhaps destroy Paradise and wipeout all Eldian kind, from his POV.  In a weaken state he is in, Eren Yeager summons enough strength towards creating somekind of diversion to divert the alliance away from him.  That diversion would be Zeke Yeager turning into the massive titan, and then directs him towards Marley.  It would give Eren Yeager more then enough time to recuperate and regain his strength before proceeding towards another objective.

      As for the Marley Warriors who still can turn into titans at will.  It is proabably part of Eren Yeagers' plan to allow them use their powers until they reach Marley.  Once there, Eren Yeager would spring some kind of trap and perhaps steal their powers just as they try to do it towards him.

      That is my theory so far.  What do you think?

      I really love your theory, and it would be a very great twist plot. If so, I would love to see the surprised faces of the members of the Disney alliance when they see that they are facing a Zeke controlled by Eren's founding titan and not Eren himself, so that he begins to attack them from behind, perhaps with the help of the Yeagerists (that might be the perfect way for Floch's comeback, in case he's not hidden in the plane).

      There's also the possibility that Eren will devour the other changing titans to become the only changing titan, like in the days of the founder Ymir, and although I see it feasible in almost all of them, I don't know how he would manage to devour Armin if he is transformed (emotional conflict aside, because Armin has been Eren's best friend for most of his life). We already saw in the battle of Shinganshina that Eren did nothing to Berthold when both were transformed. Eren had to resort to Armin's plan to trick Berthold out of the colossal titan, but he never had a chance to get him out when he was transformed.  The only thing I can think about it is that he would need help from the Yeagearists to set a trap against Armin where he will trip and fall, and then the attack titan could devour Armin.

      There is also a possibility that Eren managed to devour everyone else and let Armin devour him so that his friend managed to gather the 9 Titans into one (after all, Armin is the narrator of the anime and that had to be an exclusive decision of Isayama).

      PS: By the way, I want you to take a look at this thread that I recently created and give your opinion on it, to see what you think. https://attackontitan.fandom.com/wiki/Thread:71778

      What I say there could also serve after the last battle, in case Eren is victorious, so instead of paying homage to Erwin so much, Eren would be the most honored.

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    • Linense wrote:

      I really love your theory, and it would be a very great twist plot. If so, I would love to see the surprised faces of the members of the Disney alliance when they see that they are facing a Zeke controlled by Eren's founding titan and not Eren himself, so that he begins to attack them from behind, perhaps with the help of the Yeagerists (that might be the perfect way for Floch's comeback, in case he's not hidden in the plane).

      There's also the possibility that Eren will devour the other changing titans to become the only changing titan, like in the days of the founder Ymir, and although I see it feasible in almost all of them, I don't know how he would manage to devour Armin if he is transformed (emotional conflict aside, because Armin has been Eren's best friend for most of his life). We already saw in the battle of Shinganshina that Eren did nothing to Berthold when both were transformed. Eren had to resort to Armin's plan to trick Berthold out of the colossal titan, but he never had a chance to get him out when he was transformed.  The only thing I can think about it is that he would need help from the Yeagearists to set a trap against Armin where he will trip and fall, and then the attack titan could devour Armin.

      There is also a possibility that Eren managed to devour everyone else and let Armin devour him so that his friend managed to gather the 9 Titans into one (after all, Armin is the narrator of the anime and that had to be an exclusive decision of Isayama).

      PS: By the way, I want you to take a look at this thread that I recently created and give your opinion on it, to see what you think. https://attackontitan.fandom.com/wiki/Thread:71778

      What I say there could also serve after the last battle, in case Eren is victorious, so instead of paying homage to Erwin so much, Eren would be the most honored.

      Agreed, while there are possibilities of Eren Yeager getting devoured by Armin Arlert.  There is also a possibility that Eren Yeager may have found another way, better one from Ymir, where he could extract those powers without killing anyone.  It is possible that when Ymir offered her powers to assist Eren Yeager, she may have given him her entire power willingly.  After all, whenever those inheritors dies (from battle or Ymir Curse), titan powers returns to the coordinate where they are relocated into a newborn Eldian baby.  Perhaps Eren Yeager is now the new coordinate and figures out how to acquire titan powers without killing anyone who inherits them.



      PS: I have looked at your thread and left a comment for you.

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    • Not much to say this time since most of the chapter was action sequences, not that I'm complaining at all about the action.

      Not too crazy about the design of Falco's Jaw Titan but it certainly looks more powerful than any of the others. 

      Do you know how widely I smiled when the Cringevengers/traitor alliance realized that Marley was already doomed? Now, even if the Rumbling is stopped (though it shouldn't), at least Paradis's number one enemy will be destroyed.

      On the subject of Marley being crushed, I'm gonna laugh so hard when Annie realized her dad is probably already dead. After everything she's done she doesn't deserve a happy ending.

      Speaking of rotten b****es who don't deserve happy endings, I am obvious not liking Gabi Sue being the one to shoot Floch. I say shoot because Floch probably isn't dead. But even if he was, Jean, as the one being set up as the foil to Floch, has the ONLY right to kill Floch, not Garbage Braun. If having an insufferable and psychotic little brat take Jean's rightful kill isn't having a Mary Sue shoved down our throats, I don't know what is.

      Disappointed Shadis died, especially since it seemed so random how he stepped out for his own death scene, but at least he died being loved by his students. Magath totally deserved what he got. Doesn't matter if he suddenly felt a little remorse towards the end, it doesn't undo the damage he's done. Good riddance to that Nazi prick.

      Not sure what exactly the Azumabito's role in the story still is at this point other than being a convenient way for the Cringevengers to get to some port for the plane. And is that port even on Paradis Island or on continental Marley? Maybe I skipped a few lines but I don't think that was made clear to me.

      Some people seem to be raving about that panel of the 104th holding up the Warriors after battle. I think it's revolting. I can't stand seeing the 104th be so buddy buddy with the genocidal monsters who ruined their lives. Hopefully the Warriors will get theirs before the end.

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    • Penguinluver1431 wrote: Not much to say this time since most of the chapter was action sequences, not that I'm complaining at all about the action.

      Not too crazy about the design of Falco's Jaw Titan but it certainly looks more powerful than any of the others. 

      Do you know how widely I smiled when the Cringevengers/traitor alliance realized that Marley was already doomed? Now, even if the Rumbling is stopped (though it shouldn't), at least Paradis's number one enemy will be destroyed.

      On the subject of Marley being crushed, I'm gonna laugh so hard when Annie realized her dad is probably already dead. After everything she's done she doesn't deserve a happy ending.

      Speaking of rotten b****es who don't deserve happy endings, I am obvious not liking Gabi Sue being the one to shoot Floch. I say shoot because Floch probably isn't dead. But even if he was, Jean, as the one being set up as the foil to Floch, has the ONLY right to kill Floch, not Garbage Braun. If having an insufferable and psychotic little brat take Jean's rightful kill isn't having a Mary Sue shoved down our throats, I don't know what is.

      Disappointed Shadis died, especially since it seemed so random how he stepped out for his own death scene, but at least he died being loved by his students. Magath totally deserved what he got. Doesn't matter if he suddenly felt a little remorse towards the end, it doesn't undo the damage he's done. Good riddance to that Nazi prick.

      Not sure what exactly the Azumabito's role in the story still is at this point other than being a convenient way for the Cringevengers to get to some port for the plane. And is that port even on Paradis Island or on continental Marley? Maybe I skipped a few lines but I don't think that was made clear to me.

      Some people seem to be raving about that panel of the 104th holding up the Warriors after battle. I think it's revolting. I can't stand seeing the 104th be so buddy buddy with the genocidal monsters who ruined their lives. Hopefully the Warriors will get theirs before the end.

      In my opinion if Marley risks being destroyed then the other countries could lick the Eldia feet because they will be too afraid. Annie and Reiner will bear the responsibility alone because Magath is dead. Reiner just goes on living for Falco and Gabi and Annie for her dad.

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    • Magath was sad about his actions because he understood in chapter 127 that he had made Reiner suffer a lot sending him to break the wall with Annie. In addition, Reiner and Gabi were beaten up by Jean because of it in front of him. I think he liked his warriors especially Gabi and Pieck. Gabi and Pieck mourned his death. On the other hand, when he spoke to Jean he did not care about the people of Paradise victims of his orders. I think it is not possible to forgive but as he regretted his actions he will go to purgatory. He will therefore not join Willy Teyber and General Calvi in hell.

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    • Mutsu Goro wrote: Magath was sad about his actions because he understood in chapter 127 that he had made Reiner suffer a lot sending him to break the wall with Annie. In addition, Reiner and Gabi were beaten up by Jean because of it in front of him. I think he liked his warriors especially Gabi and Pieck. Gabi and Pieck mourned his death. On the other hand, when he spoke to Jean he did not care about the people of Paradise victims of his orders. I think it is not possible to forgive but as he regretted his actions he will go to purgatory. He will therefore not join Willy Teyber and General Calvi in hell.

      Same with Shadis. Not in hell but purgatory as well. Although who is Calvi?

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    • Penguinluver1431 wrote: Not much to say this time since most of the chapter was action sequences, not that I'm complaining at all about the action.

      Not too crazy about the design of Falco's Jaw Titan but it certainly looks more powerful than any of the others. 

      Do you know how widely I smiled when the Cringevengers/traitor alliance realized that Marley was already doomed? Now, even if the Rumbling is stopped (though it shouldn't), at least Paradis's number one enemy will be destroyed.

      On the subject of Marley being crushed, I'm gonna laugh so hard when Annie realized her dad is probably already dead. After everything she's done she doesn't deserve a happy ending.

      Speaking of rotten b****es who don't deserve happy endings, I am obvious not liking Gabi Sue being the one to shoot Floch. I say shoot because Floch probably isn't dead. But even if he was, Jean, as the one being set up as the foil to Floch, has the ONLY right to kill Floch, not Garbage Braun. If having an insufferable and psychotic little brat take Jean's rightful kill isn't having a Mary Sue shoved down our throats, I don't know what is.

      Disappointed Shadis died, especially since it seemed so random how he stepped out for his own death scene, but at least he died being loved by his students. Magath totally deserved what he got. Doesn't matter if he suddenly felt a little remorse towards the end, it doesn't undo the damage he's done. Good riddance to that Nazi prick.

      Not sure what exactly the Azumabito's role in the story still is at this point other than being a convenient way for the Cringevengers to get to some port for the plane. And is that port even on Paradis Island or on continental Marley? Maybe I skipped a few lines but I don't think that was made clear to me.

      Some people seem to be raving about that panel of the 104th holding up the Warriors after battle. I think it's revolting. I can't stand seeing the 104th be so buddy buddy with the genocidal monsters who ruined their lives. Hopefully the Warriors will get theirs before the end.

      Azumbito are allies to the Paradis Eldians at this point obviously.

      Also Jean being a foil to Floch, which I didn't think they were foils to each other to begin with. However you might get your wish for Jean vs Floch as Floch isn't entirely dead yet.

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    • Tdfern14 wrote: Although who is Calvi?

      Marshal Calvi was the supreme head of Marley's armed forces with Magath. After having crushed Willy Teyber, Eren in titan worked hard on Calvi and the other Marley officers. I think that given his age, it was him that he had this position when the children were sent to the wall. Eren took revenge.

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    • Mutsu Goro wrote:

      Tdfern14 wrote: Although who is Calvi?

      Marshal Calvi was the supreme head of Marley's armed forces with Magath. After having crushed Willy Teyber, Eren in titan worked hard on Calvi and the other Marley officers. I think that given his age, it was him that he had this position when the children were sent to the wall. Eren took revenge.

      I'm sorry but how he crushed Willy Tybur? Didn't Eren crush him?

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    • Tdfern14 wrote:

      Mutsu Goro wrote:

      Tdfern14 wrote: Although who is Calvi?

      Marshal Calvi was the supreme head of Marley's armed forces with Magath. After having crushed Willy Teyber, Eren in titan worked hard on Calvi and the other Marley officers. I think that given his age, it was him that he had this position when the children were sent to the wall. Eren took revenge.

      I'm sorry but how he crushed Willy Tybur? Didn't Eren crush him?

      That is what I am saying. At Liberio Eren with his titan first crushed Willy Teyber and after Calvi and the other high ranking officers.

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    • Mutsu Goro wrote:

      Tdfern14 wrote:

      Mutsu Goro wrote:

      Tdfern14 wrote: Although who is Calvi?

      Marshal Calvi was the supreme head of Marley's armed forces with Magath. After having crushed Willy Teyber, Eren in titan worked hard on Calvi and the other Marley officers. I think that given his age, it was him that he had this position when the children were sent to the wall. Eren took revenge.

      I'm sorry but how he crushed Willy Tybur? Didn't Eren crush him?

      That is what I am saying. At Liberio Eren with his titan first crushed Willy Teyber and after Calvi and the other high ranking officers.

      Do you know who should be among the victims of the Rumbling in Marley? The sons of that motherfucker named Gross. I imagine that with those sadistic genes, they surely followed in the footsteps of their bastard dad and will be officers of the Marleyan military or of the Marleyan Public Security.

      By the way, if Eren already has full control over the founding titan, could he have turned some wall titans or some subjects of Ymir from the outside world into other types of titans, more akin to the attack titan (after all, Karl Fritz transformed millions of subjects of Ymir into the wall titans)? That way, Eren could ensure the extermination of the humans outside of Paradis (the wall titans crush everything in their path, but some could escape their reach because they would be faster than these) by the fact of devour them and those titans could serve as a distraction from their enemies, whether the armies of other nations such as Disney alliance.

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    • Next chapter will probably bring up the topic of future plans of the "stop-eren-alliance",they will probably talk about how to reach Marley,how to convince Eren to stop the rumbling,maybe some problems will arise,or if were lucky, we can now move to Eren's POV, because it's funny that the since the rumbling was activated, we never heard of him again,maybe we will learn some of Zeke whereabouts, some of Historia's also....

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    • For the record When I said Floch got fucked I didn’t mean I thought he died. While dying rather abruptly like that isn’t out of this series range I don’t think they did him that dirty.

      But of course the unfitting Gabi Sue name remains even though literally every counter to that thing was made without proper rebuttal...

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    • CaptFredricks wrote:

      Linense wrote:

      CaptFredricks wrote:
      I can't wait for Penguinluver's reaction to Gabi killing Floch. XD

      Also, Gabi should teach a master class on noscoping people.

      Floch isn't dead. I think we will see him again.
      The Yeagerists have been wiped out. Even if he's not dead, what can he do at this point?

      He could kill someone in the Cringevengers/traitor alliance (preferably Gabi). And even without the Yeagerists, the island as a whole supports the Rumbling, so if the traitors do manage to succeed in stopping the Rumbling and kill Eren, they will be pariahs on the island and would either live as fugitives or be executed for treason.

      And yes, you're right, I hate that Gabi Sue once again is just noscoping people, that botched abortion is getting too much favoritism from Yams.

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    • Reiner just goes on living for Falco and Gabi and Annie for her dad.

      Too late for Annie, her dad is pretty much guaranteed to die. 

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    • Honestly I couldn’t help but feel disheartened at how brutally the Alliance slaughtered the Yeagerists, especially after it was explicitly invoked that they are fighting desperately for the sake of their families and homes. I still wish the Alliance would take two seconds to just try and work out a plan for when Eren is defeated that would prevent the extermination of Paradis.

      Hanji’s calculations made no sense to me. Half a day (so 12 hours?) to destroyed something like 600km of land, but then she says only 4 days to destroy the entire continent? That’s......literally nonsensical. Unless I’m misunderstanding something?

      Like others have said Floche probably survived, and is clinging to the plane being hauled by the ship. He’ll probably get one more kill before getting shot, although I’m not sure who. My money is on Hanji or one of the engineers.

      The Magath/Shadis scene caught me off guard. Isn’t Magath pretty much the only Marley leader who doesn’t despise Eldians? With him dead, Marley will absolutely wipe out Paradis when Eren goes down.

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    • Verdant Melancholy wrote:
      Honestly I couldn’t help but feel disheartened at how brutally the Alliance slaughtered the Yeagerists, especially after it was explicitly invoked that they are fighting desperately for the sake of their families and homes. I still wish the Alliance would take two seconds to just try and work out a plan for when Eren is defeated that would prevent the extermination of Paradis.

      Hanji’s calculations made no sense to me. Half a day (so 12 hours?) to destroyed something like 600km of land, but then she says only 4 days to destroy the entire continent? That’s......literally nonsensical. Unless I’m misunderstanding something?

      Like others have said Floche probably survived, and is clinging to the plane being hauled by the ship. He’ll probably get one more kill before getting shot, although I’m not sure who. My money is on Hanji or one of the engineers.

      The Magath/Shadis scene caught me off guard. Isn’t Magath pretty much the only Marley leader who doesn’t despise Eldians? With him dead, Marley will absolutely wipe out Paradis when Eren goes down.

      To me, I agree with you about how brutal the Survey Corp/Warriors alliance did towards those Yeagerist Faction.  The Yeagerist Faction are only trying to protect their families, friends and nation from being invaded by their enemies.  Floch Forster may behave like a moron, but he only doing this because humanity struck first nine years ago.  'One should never forget the past or they dare to repeat it all over again'.

      Survey Corp/Warrior alliance should assess the situation first, trying to find out what caused all of this.  But instead, they want to try and stop Eren Yeager from going ahead, not knowing if there are other factors/reasons involve.  Granted, they are against the clock, but one wrong move or missing information, and it is curtains.  It will lead into a large amount of unnecessary deaths with people.

      I understand that the warriors are wanting to protect their families.  However, what the Survey Corp just did will cost them severely when they get back, if any survivors returns to Paradise Island.



      Hange calculations could be way off, perhaps she was under severe pressure.  The Survey Corp has only began venturing into other nations several months ago.  It would have taken them years to fully understand the outside world before making that kind of assumptions.  Plus, both Survey Corp and Marley Warriors have little intel on what is happening on the other side as well.

      Theo Magath death is quite suprising for me, while completely understandable.  I think that Isayama Hajime has planned this because he probably wants the Survey Corp/Warrior alliance to fail.  After all, rumours has it that the ending is going to be bleak.  And, we are looking at this on their point of view as well.

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    • Linense wrote:

      Mutsu Goro wrote:

      Tdfern14 wrote:

      Mutsu Goro wrote:

      Tdfern14 wrote: Although who is Calvi?

      Marshal Calvi was the supreme head of Marley's armed forces with Magath. After having crushed Willy Teyber, Eren in titan worked hard on Calvi and the other Marley officers. I think that given his age, it was him that he had this position when the children were sent to the wall. Eren took revenge.

      I'm sorry but how he crushed Willy Tybur? Didn't Eren crush him?

      That is what I am saying. At Liberio Eren with his titan first crushed Willy Teyber and after Calvi and the other high ranking officers.

      Do you know who should be among the victims of the Rumbling in Marley? The sons of that motherfucker named Gross. I imagine that with those sadistic genes, they surely followed in the footsteps of their bastard dad and will be officers of the Marleyan military or of the Marleyan Public Security.

      By the way, if Eren already has full control over the founding titan, could he have turned some wall titans or some subjects of Ymir from the outside world into other types of titans, more akin to the attack titan (after all, Karl Fritz transformed millions of subjects of Ymir into the wall titans)? That way, Eren could ensure the extermination of the humans outside of Paradis (the wall titans crush everything in their path, but some could escape their reach because they would be faster than these) by the fact of devour them and those titans could serve as a distraction from their enemies, whether the armies of other nations such as Disney alliance.

      It is possible that the head of the marine forces (without name) at the side of Calvi is a child of Gross. He looks like a family, doesn't he? Finally, Gross had a death he deserved, much worse and humiliating. After this pedophile tongue cutter and eye puncher of King Fritz I, the major officer Gross is the worst character in the manga.

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    • Penguinluver1431 wrote:

      Reiner just goes on living for Falco and Gabi and Annie for her dad.

      Too late for Annie, her dad is pretty much guaranteed to die. 

      Perhaps not, civilians in Liberio may have been evacuated before the titans arrived.

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    • I am total anti-GT but I find contempt against the current Yaerists unfair. People did not understand that it was no longer just fanatical nationalists as at the beginning of the movement. Many like Daz or Samuel did not care about Eren and the greatness of Edlia. They don't want a quiet life with security for their families. The cause they defend is very bad but their arguments are better than we think.

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    • Mutsu Goro wrote:

      Penguinluver1431 wrote:

      Reiner just goes on living for Falco and Gabi and Annie for her dad.

      Too late for Annie, her dad is pretty much guaranteed to die. 

      Perhaps not, civilians in Liberio may have been evacuated before the titans arrived.

      But remember Annie’s dads attacked a guard at Liberio and may have been shot as a result.

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    • Verdant Melancholy wrote:

      Mutsu Goro wrote:

      Penguinluver1431 wrote:

      Reiner just goes on living for Falco and Gabi and Annie for her dad.

      Too late for Annie, her dad is pretty much guaranteed to die. 

      Perhaps not, civilians in Liberio may have been evacuated before the titans arrived.

      But remember Annie’s dads attacked a guard at Liberio and may have been shot as a result.

      It is possible also

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    • Imagine not learning how to use Google and search what Mary Sue actually means.

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    • Mutsu Goro wrote:

      Linense wrote:

      Mutsu Goro wrote:

      Tdfern14 wrote:


      Mutsu Goro wrote:


      Tdfern14 wrote: Although who is Calvi?

      Marshal Calvi was the supreme head of Marley's armed forces with Magath. After having crushed Willy Teyber, Eren in titan worked hard on Calvi and the other Marley officers. I think that given his age, it was him that he had this position when the children were sent to the wall. Eren took revenge.
      I'm sorry but how he crushed Willy Tybur? Didn't Eren crush him?
      That is what I am saying.

      At Liberio Eren with his titan first crushed Willy Teyber and after Calvi and the other high ranking officers.

      Do you know who should be among the victims of the Rumbling in Marley? The sons of that motherfucker named Gross. I imagine that with those sadistic genes, they surely followed in the footsteps of their bastard dad and will be officers of the Marleyan military or of the Marleyan Public Security.

      By the way, if Eren already has full control over the founding titan, could he have turned some wall titans or some subjects of Ymir from the outside world into other types of titans, more akin to the attack titan (after all, Karl Fritz transformed millions of subjects of Ymir into the wall titans)? That way, Eren could ensure the extermination of the humans outside of Paradis (the wall titans crush everything in their path, but some could escape their reach because they would be faster than these) by the fact of devour them and those titans could serve as a distraction from their enemies, whether the armies of other nations such as Disney alliance.

      It is possible that the head of the marine forces (without name) at the side of Calvi is a child of Gross. He looks like a family, doesn't he? Finally, Gross had a death he deserved, much worse and humiliating. After this pedophile tongue cutter and eye puncher of King Fritz I, the major officer Gross is the worst character in the manga.

      I don't know about that; sure the pasta-muncher got his face skinned alive, but that didn't last long before he got eaten to death.

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    • Cepis wrote:
      Imagine not learning how to use Google and search what Mary Sue actually means.

      Yeah, penguin boy needs to come up with a better nickname, since someone already proved that Gabi isn't a Sue; maybe "Gabi Braun Stains?"

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    • Drivebladesman wrote:

      Yeah, penguin boy needs to come up with a better nickname, since someone already proved that Gabi isn't a Sue; maybe "Gabi Braun Stains?"

      "Gabbili Zeitsev" ?

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    • @Penguinluver1431

      When Gaby it is a Mary Sue ?

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    • Mutsu Goro wrote: @Penguinluver1431

      When Gaby it is a Mary Sue ?

      Plot armor + bland replacement of MC + getting away with everything she does (minus a punch to the face for sadistically bragging about killing Sasha to Nicolo) + conveniently good at everything + author bending the plot over backwards for her survival = Mary Sue/Gabi Sue/Garbage Braun/Gabbitch/Botched abortion

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    • Pretty sure 1 and 4 are pretty much the same thing and even so I doubt it considering she hasn’t survived nearly as much or anything as daring as other people have. Nor is she a replacement for the MC considering the MC is still there and the SC people have mostly taken the main focus from that point. Course we’ve already dismantled this Mary Sue idea several times.

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    • Penguinluver1431 wrote: getting away with everything she does (minus a punch to the face for sadistically bragging about killing Sasha to Nicolo)

      You also forget

      1) She was beaten up just after she shot Sasha in the airship by Floch & co.

      2) She got a terrible kick from Jean in chapter 127

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    • Mutsu Goro wrote:

      Penguinluver1431 wrote: getting away with everything she does (minus a punch to the face for sadistically bragging about killing Sasha to Nicolo)

      You also forget

      1) She was beaten up just after she shot Sasha in the seaplane by Floch & co.

      2) She got a terrible kick from Jean in chapter 129

      This is even doesn’t scratch the surface of it. That’s just physical stuff. Her time since she was brought to Paradis has been one humiliation after another and it’s only since the invasion started since she’s started to do something (shoot Eren and Floch, the latter of which has been treated like such an incompetent buffoon That it’s not so much an accomplishment and more kicking mud on a beaten wuss)

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    • Mutsu Goro wrote:

      You also forget

      1) She was beaten up just after she shot Sasha in the seaplane by Floch & co.

      2) She got a terrible kick from Jean in chapter 129

      Some minor corrections for you.

      1) first off, that was not a seaplane.  That was a airship which the Survey Corp & Marley Volunteers used to rescue Eren Yeager, capture Zeke and get out of Liberio.

      2) Second off, Gabi got kicked by Jean in Chapter 127 - The Night Of The End.

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    • Thanks i will corrected, sometimes write too fast

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    • Mutsu Goro wrote:
      Thanks i will corrected, sometimes write too fast

      It is cool.

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    • I notice a lot of comments about Keith Shadis's choice to blow up the ship with Magath as either non-impressive, or not very heroic, and I agree to an extent that it certainly wasn't extravagant, but when you think about it, what other choices did he have. In his situation, he was basically hiding away from the Yeagerists, waiting until they either found and executed him, or until he died on his own, living like some cowardly animal. I think his choice to die with at least some form of dignity and heroism was far better than watching some scene where the Yeagerists slaughter him due to superior numbers, or anything along those lines. I admit, he could've at least done something cooler besides stand there, but in the end, I think this was the best way he could've went considering his options. 

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    • Penguinluver1431 wrote: He could kill someone in the Cringevengers/traitor alliance (preferably Gabi). And even without the Yeagerists, the island as a whole supports the Rumbling, so if the traitors do manage to succeed in stopping the Rumbling and kill Eren, they will be pariahs on the island and would either live as fugitives or be executed for treason.

      And yes, you're right, I hate that Gabi Sue once again is just noscoping people, that botched abortion is getting too much favoritism from Yams.

      LOL! I knew you'd be pissed about Gabi's actions in this chapter, and you certainly didn't disappoint. And for the final time, she's not a Mary Sue. The only thing she's been consistently good at is sniping people.

      Oh, and no. Floch is a POS. After what he did to Shadis I'm glad he's gone (and hope he really is dead).

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    • CaptFredricks wrote:

      Oh, and no. Floch is a POS. After what he did to Shadis I'm glad he's gone (and hope he really is dead).

      You might wanna hold your breath on that.

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